LAWeaver Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I don't even like the term 'Manning vs Brady'. It's not like one is defending against the other. I just see it as two teams with two of the greatest QBs to ever play face each other. It just seems like whether it's been Denver vs NE or Indy vs NE, it's automatically a rivalry just because Tom's team is facing Peyton's team @loganaweaver - Twitter / @loganaweaver - Instagram / Nike Vapor Untouchable Football Template / Logan's Logos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I don't even like the term 'Manning vs Brady'. It's not like one is defending against the other. I just see it as two teams with two of the greatest QBs to ever play face each other. It just seems like whether it's been Denver vs NE or Indy vs NE, it's automatically a rivalry just because Tom's team is facing Peyton's teamI agree. That is why I put it in quotation marks. I hate the Quarterback X vs Quarterback Y billing. They don't face each other, ever. It's not like a boxing match where they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unocal Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Football individual rivalries are like baseball rivalries- it's not head to head the way hockey/basketball is.When LeBron plays Durant- they're on the court at the same time.When Crosby plays Ovechkin, they're on the ice at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Unfortunately Marcus Lattimore will retire before he ever got to step foot on a field. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS729 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Unfortunately Marcus Lattimore will retire before he ever got to step foot on a field.That guy was a beast at South Carolina before he went on his insane injury run. Really disappointing, that guy would've made a great NFL running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Seriously, I am so tired of the BRADY RINGS argument crap.In those 9 playoff games, he was pedestrian in all but 3 of them- the Eagle/Panther SB's, he was great. And the AFC-CG against 15-1 Steelers.Since then, the guy is 8-8 in the playoffs.Those 3 SB's are ancient history.What has he done lately? No rings, chokes. Oh, and Peyton has won the last 2 playoff games head-to-head.BRADY'S BETTER when he's at home. Guy has only beaten Manning thrice outside Foxboro.Good points. I don't know why so many people defend him when it's very possible that he's a cheating benefactor. On this other site, these people keep saying that Elway (he got brought up because I have to defend him because these people think that he is the most overrated player ever) has no argument over Brady. That is nonsense. Brady got to his SB's because of his coach. Elway led Denver to three SB's in the 80's in spite of his coach, and after he retired with back to back titles, Shanny only won one playoff game.Elway was a cheating benefactor too. Salary-cap cheating, illegal chop-blocking schemes, Vaseline jerseys... pretty much any cheating tactic you can think of, Denver was doing it in the '90s. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unocal Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Salary cap cheating?When I think of salary cap cheating in the 1990s, I remember what happened with the 49ers. But what exactly did the Broncos do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Salary cap cheating?When I think of salary cap cheating in the 1990s, I remember what happened with the 49ers. But what exactly did the Broncos do?They made deferred payments to John Elway and Terrell Davis (with interest). Harold Henderson, the chairman of the Management Council and the NFL's executive vice president of labor relations at the time, said "These agreements were plainly designed to help the club cope with seasonal cash flow problems exacerbated by the Broncos' need to fund front-end expenditures associated with development of the new stadium in Denver."Basically, as I understand it, money was tight when they were building the new stadium so they had to defer payments to Elway and Davis. Although it was a "cap violation", there was not really any competitive advantage gained by the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Well if they defer payments, then that leaves more liquid cash to shell out as a signing bonus to someone that they may otherwise have not been able to afford due to money already reserved for Elway's and Davis' paychecks. I have no memory of them signing anyone like that back then, but that's probably why it's considered a violation. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Well if they defer payments, then that leaves more liquid cash to shell out as a signing bonus to someone that they may otherwise have not been able to afford due to money already reserved for Elway's and Davis' paychecks. I have no memory of them signing anyone like that back then, but that's probably why it's considered a violation.There were other issues too, specifically one was if Pat Bowlen violated the terms of him buying the team in the first place.Wherever Al Davis is resting, he is still p!ssed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I feel so bad about Marcus Lattimore, I watched his injury the second one I put it in the worst I ever seen. A shame he could have been great, thankfully he has a good insurance policy that will now pay off. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 ^ Which brings up a very good point......How come no one's talking about the Cardinals?They're not part of ESPN's agenda. Remember it's NFC EAST, Patriots, rinse, repeat.ESPN's NFL coverage pecking order:1. NFC East2. Patriots3. Manning4. LeBron5. Cowboys5. AFC North6. Jets7. SEC8. NFC North9. Archives of Favre/Tebow10. Any other NFL team left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yikes, Dalton tonight looks even more wretched then his playoff performances. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsketor Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Well the Cincinnati Bungles are living up to the Thursday Night Beatdown rep these days... Many thanks to Discrimihater for making the sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsburghSucks Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 These are not your same old Cleveland Browns!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 These are not your same old Cleveland Browns!!! Browns can beat any team but can also lose to any team. We've been playing to the level of our competition. One game doesn't change that. This is the same team that lost to Jacksonville. I will enjoy our division lead for a few days (Pittsburgh beats NY easily on Sun). But I'm not going to get too ahead of myself. Cleveland teams always find a way to let us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnice Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Jeremy Hill is a dope, being so bitter, and not giving the Browns any credit. I know you're pissed minutes after the game, but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Here is every incomplete pass that Andy Dalton threw last night. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Dandy Andy Dalton the brighter the lights the more dandy he is. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Where the f was this effort from the Niners last week? BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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