Antman28

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  1. Yeah, it's a shame about the hoops. I liked those. Might the Revolution ever try it for their clash kit?

    As for the RedBulls, there was far more advertising in New York for the Red Bull Air Show over Jersey City than there ever was for the soccer team, but hey. They made their choice to focus on the suburbs.

    Good thinking. I think the Revolution need a full reworking. Their badge is the only one that hasn't changed at all since 96 and I remember thinking it was one of the worst in the league when they were unveiled (not to mention the kits...). I've seen some great concepts here with more traditional New England imagery that would be great to see them in. Shame that the Krafts don't really seem to care. Their kits have been pretty much the same solid navy/solid white for years.

    Don't get me wrong, as a fan of the Metrostars/Red Bulls since the beginning, there have been MANY boneheaded marketing moves over the years. I mainly remember the billboards since I was frustrated at the time that they were spending money on advertising that they weren't putting into the playing squad.

    Don't forget the Columbus Crew even though their new owner has indicated that he wants to change it.

    I seriously think that in order to gain any ground in the city, Metrobull would require new ownership, which isn't going to happen anytime soon, to create an image that can counteract NYCFC. It would be cool if Metrobull went with Empire FC/SC (I believe that was an idea for the original name) and had a philosophy opposite of NYCFC.

    Wow, I did completely forget the Crew.

    The original Metrostars/RBNY franchise name was indeed Empire Soccer Club. Real shame that the name was not used.


  2. Yeah, it's a shame about the hoops. I liked those. Might the Revolution ever try it for their clash kit?

    As for the RedBulls, there was far more advertising in New York for the Red Bull Air Show over Jersey City than there ever was for the soccer team, but hey. They made their choice to focus on the suburbs.

    Good thinking. I think the Revolution need a full reworking. Their badge is the only one that hasn't changed at all since 96 and I remember thinking it was one of the worst in the league when they were unveiled (not to mention the kits...). I've seen some great concepts here with more traditional New England imagery that would be great to see them in. Shame that the Krafts don't really seem to care. Their kits have been pretty much the same solid navy/solid white for years.

    Don't get me wrong, as a fan of the Metrostars/Red Bulls since the beginning, there have been MANY boneheaded marketing moves over the years. I mainly remember the billboards since I was frustrated at the time that they were spending money on advertising that they weren't putting into the playing squad.


  3. That's already one more New York City billboard than I've ever seen from RBNY.

    FWIW there are a few around. This one is right in my neighborhood in Brooklyn: http://www.behance.net/gallery/New-York-Red-Bulls-Wallscapes/11647681

    Yes, in fairness, they did start advertising in the city.

    In 2010.

    When it was too late. :censored: them. :P

    Yeah that's not really true either. They put up billboards shortly after the rebrand and I can remember others in Brooklyn the following season as well. But, yeah, if you're not a fan, you're not a fan.

    Back on topic, yeah, for some reason Dallas seems to have dumped the hoops. It's a shame considering the look (if not the color scheme) was unique to the league and instantly identifiable.


  4. I actually like the huge bulls, so it's not just a repeat of the team crest above it.

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    NYRB away kit leak

    You can write it on the hem of your jerseys much as you like, fellas, but that won't make it any more true. ;)

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    :wink2:


  5. That is probably a little closer to the mark. Red Bull made an initial marketing push for a couple of seasons and then put things on autopilot for a few while they finished building the stadium. While I think the change of attitude in 2010 may have had more to do with the opening of Red Bull Arena that year, I agree that the Cosmos likely played a role as well. I don't agree that the team refused to connect with or ignored the city as a whole but I have felt that there was always a certain underlying ambivalence about the ownership. The sort of "if we build it, the thousands of soccer fans in the tri-state area will come" attitude that I for one hope disappears entirely now that direct competition has arrived. Time will tell.

    Before I get further off track and lament the splintered sports allegiances of NYC (that have only been complicated further by the Brooklyn Nets and the upcoming relocation of the Islanders), let's get back to logos/uniforms. I'd like to see NYCFC's have more of it's own identity than to simply be an extension of Man City's brand (see Chivas USA).

    The owners of NYCFC are actually going to spend money on their team. They also won't fill their team with Mexican's who are not good enough to play in the Mexican league.

    I'm talking about design. Anyone who knows how to run a professional sports organization (don't see Chivas USA) would know not to do that.


  6. That is probably a little closer to the mark. Red Bull made an initial marketing push for a couple of seasons and then put things on autopilot for a few while they finished building the stadium. While I think the change of attitude in 2010 may have had more to do with the opening of Red Bull Arena that year, I agree that the Cosmos likely played a role as well. I don't agree that the team refused to connect with or ignored the city as a whole but I have felt that there was always a certain underlying ambivalence about the ownership. The sort of "if we build it, the thousands of soccer fans in the tri-state area will come" attitude that I for one hope disappears entirely now that direct competition has arrived. Time will tell.

    Before I get further off track and lament the splintered sports allegiances of NYC (that have only been complicated further by the Brooklyn Nets and the upcoming relocation of the Islanders), let's get back to logos/uniforms. I'd like to see NYCFC's have more of it's own identity than to simply be an extension of Man City's brand (see Chivas USA).


  7. You left out the other part:

    "So long as they, unlike the Red Bulls, actually have a presence in the city."

    I have never questioned Red Bull's right to use the name, except for the 15 years they did their best to ignore the city while trading on it.

    I see. We may have to agree to disagree on that one. The team has had at least 3 owners since 1996 and while you could maybe make that argument about Metromedia and AEG, there has been a marked change in the way the team has attempted to connect to the soccer community in NYC since Red Bull has come in. There are a lot of things that I find repellent about the Red Bull ownership but I can't fault their youth training camps or their player appearances. My friend's kids have more pictures with Thierry Henry than I had of myself with Roberto Donadoni when I was their age (I had 0).


  8. That's not quite my position.

    The Meadowlands lie within a New York suburb. Teams that play there are playing within the city's sphere, and have a right to use the name.

    Since you can take a $2.25 PATH train from World Trade Center to Red Bull Arena in Harrison and be there in 25-30 minutes, I would include RBNY in the "city's sphere."


  9. I saw this mentioned on another site and wanted to see if you guys could provide more input. I saw in a comment on a FB post that Nike had a hand in naming the MLS teams in addition to designing most of the logos. Which team names did they come up with and which logos did they design? Were there any that Nike came up with the were not used? With the logos they did design was there any legal issues when MLS moved to Adidas?

    Also just to let you all know MLS extended its Adidas equipment/jersey contract until 2018:-)

    Thanks

    Kevin

    From what I understand, Nike had a hand in naming and designing logos for all of the teams that they made the uniforms for in 1996 (MetroStars, Clash, Galaxy, Burn, Mutiny). Nike initially wanted to name the NY team "MetroFlash." They also wanted the expansion Chicago team (eventually the Fire) to be called the Rhythm. There was even rumored to be a Chicago Rhythm logo that included a snake.

    The 90s were a crazy time.


  10. Ballwonk, I agree but just to play devil's advocate, the letters in the old Capitals logo are lowercase. While the hockey stick does look like an uppercase "L" its shape (with the wings) also resembles a lowercase "t" with a curved bottom as shown in the Bullets logo (and the board's font for that matter).


  11. Apparently there was an adidas model of the same jersey!?

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    I believe that the FFF has a deal with adidas that extends to the French Cup. I believe all finalist regardless of uni sponsor have to wear adidas shirts.

    Thats correct. I think all teams in the Coupe de France wear adidas shirts as well as the same uniform sponsors.


  12. I realize everyone loves to be outraged about the Yankees but there is a Red Sox division champs shirt pic out there too. (Both items have since been removed from the mlb.com shop).

    The images of the shirts and hats are always sent to retailers as are alternate World Series / Superbowl Champs posters so they can see what they are ordering and have the images up moments after a team wins.