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On 4/8/2024 at 9:17 PM, MJWalker45 said:

I'm saying they look like they don't plan on staying there because of how the field is laid out. At least DC has a reason why they don't have all of the same markings as the rest of the league. Fans that are already hesitant to get involved with the league will look at that as a sign Detroit isn't taking the league seriously.

Eh, they do have light blue in their color scheme at least.  Though it would be nicer if they could touch it up a bit more at least. They’ve probably got bigger fish to fry though. 
 

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lions basically told Bates to stay in Detroit after the season’s end. 

6 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

So based on that and other info, it seems like a reasonably safe bet to lock in other USFL teams with home sites: Michigan, Memphis, Canton, and Birmingham for now. I think New Orleans also has a reasonably decent chance of working out as well. 

 

Houston should return too, just a matter of its the Gamblers or the Roughnecks. my bet is that the league will "merge" both franchises. 

 

Arlington, DC, St. Louis, and San Antonio all make sense to return from the XFL side as well.

 

It would suck to lose Seattle, but it makes sense if there's no other teams out west to serve as a rival/travel partner for them. Though i'd be a bit suprised if they pulled out of Florida altogether w/ Orlando despite their mediocre team/attendance. 

I liked some of the names for the UFL, IMO the Omaha Nighthawks, Sacramento Mountain Lions, and Virginia Destroyers all had solid names and colors and uniforms. ( logos could’ve been a bit better though imo)   
 

AAF def had the best branding though hands down.  

On 9/21/2023 at 10:10 AM, Cujo said:

After trimming the fat, gonna assume the UXFL might look something like this:

 

Birmingham Stallions

Dallas Renegades

DC Defenders

Houston Gamblers

Memphis Showboats

Michigan Panthers

Orlando Guardians

San Antonio Brahamas

Seattle Sea Dragons

St Louis Battlehawks

Throw in NOLA and Ohio and I think this will be how it turns out. 

15 hours ago, B-Rich said:

Yulman would be fine, if Tulane will have them and the rich next door NIMBYs on Audubon Place aren't able to stop it. Though I don't think it's in writing, one of the deals was that Yulman wouldn't be used too much, but already it has been hosting high school games including state championship games.

 

The Shrine on Airline ( Zephyr Field) is another story.  Holds 10,000 for baseball,  and has a not-good set-up for  football (and rugby). It HAS held quite a few high school football games, and there are preliminary plans being floated by Jefferson Parish to convert  it to a more rectangular seating set-up for football, rugby, and soccer.

Good news: Shrine on Airline's field is in much better shape than Cashman's: 

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/4pEDfdHrB525Rov7A

 

Bad News, its still a baseball stadium with a rugby/football field in it: 

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/5DGpjg2Pcbcz2jva6

 

But it looks like the city plans on converting it to a football/soccer/rugby configuration by 2025 that based on the renderings, looks like it would be the perfect sized venue for a UXFL team: 

 

https://www.nola.com/news/business/the-shrine-on-airline-could-get-a-major-facelift-in-metairie-here-is-the-latest/article_50ec24ec-d22d-11ec-95eb-4bae2e8bc112.html

 

3 hours ago, HOOVER said:

 

So, thoughts on how they proceed?  16 teams?  2 divisions of 8, 4 divisions of 4, or something else?  2 teams in Houston, or does one die again?  I'd imagine it'd be the end for the Roughnecks, even though they have an edge on color scheme over another Black/Red team in a combined league.

 

This will be a great opportunity to do some fun things. 

 

First thoughts if they drop the Roughnecks is to give the DC Defenders that color scheme, which is what they should have always had.  That would eliminate 1 Red-heavy scheme, which is dominant in the USFL.

 

Then replace the Roughnecks with the San Francisco Demons or Chicago Enforcers.  

 

Maybe find a way to bring back the Tampa Bay Bandits.

 

Maybe rebrand Las Vegas back to the Outlaws (XFL 2001). 

 

Better yet...definitely get a team back in Oakland.  They were the Invaders (USFL '83-'85) but the Outlaws brand would be an excellent replacement brand for the Raiders.  The Oakland Outlaws...has a damn good ring to it.

 

I've been waiting on this to happen since before the start of the 2023 seasons for each. That being said, I'm glad to see both leagues do the sensible thing and join forces before suffocating each other. 

 

I wouldn't be suprised if they dropped to 12 teams for now, but I think 16 is doable if they're strategic in placing/moving teams to minimize unnecessary travel.

 

No perfect way to divy it up, but I do think there's a way to do it with minimal disruption.

 

Would love to see 4 divisions of 4 teams: 

 

"UXFL" Northeastern Conference

East

- NJ (USFL)

- Philadelphia  (USFL)

- DC (XFL)

- Orlando (XFL)

 

North

- Michigan (USFL)

- Ohio (from USFL Houston) 

- Pittsburgh (USFL)

- St Louis (XFL)

 

"UXFL" Southwestern Conference

South: 

- Birmingham (USFL)

- Memphis (USFL)

- New Orleans (USFL)

- Houston (XFL) (can swap for San Antonio)

 

West: 

- Seattle (XFL)

- Arizona/Denver/San Diego/San Jose (from Vegas) (XFL)

- Arlington (XFL)

- San Antonio (XFL) (can swap for Houston) 

 

From here, I think you can do a relatively straightforward 14 - game schedule starting in February shortly after the Superbowl: 

- home and home with all 3 other division-mates (6 games) 

- play opposite conference division once (North plays East, South plays west) (4 games) 

- play half of each opposite conference division each year (alternate the other division teams every other season) 

- all teams get 2 bye weeks starting in week 6 of each season (roughly around the time march madness starts) and cycling through all teams twice so that each team has had at least 2 bye weeks by week 14 so that everyone has to play the last two weeks each season in week 15 and 16. 

 

From here, you can do a  clean 8 team playoff using 1 of 3 formats: 

- Top two in each division, opening round of playoffs is between divisional opponents for a "division title" to play in for conference finals, then league championship

- Top 4 in each conference (standard 1-4  bracket for each conference, winners play for league title ) 

- Open Playoff bracket, Top 8 make it regardless of division. 

4 minutes ago, 4_tattoos said:

Realistically the Roughnecks and Gamblers should be able to co-exist in Houston since the two leagues have little overlap. I'm sure the University of Houston would accept rent from both leagues to use their stadium.

The Spring League (essentially the semi-official predecessor to USFL 2.0) used Rice Stadium in Houston as a hub in 2021. Think that might be eyed here as well should the league want to stay in Houston. 

20 minutes ago, McCall said:

Doubt most of those are actually still in the league. Where are they gonna play? Are they gonna be able to put the Gamblers in Houston with the Roughnecks already there?

I personally think the Gamblers will be rebranded and moved to a different market ahead of season 3 for that reason. (My money is on either Tulsa as a revived "Oklahoma Outlaws", or a revival of the Tampa Bay Bandits if they can get a deal to play at Raymond James field), but I listed them here to illustrate the point. But the others do have realistic venue options: 

• NOLA can play at either Yulman Stadium (Tulane), or just the lower bowl at the Superdome with dimmed lighting/tarps on the upper levels. 
• Philly could go to either Franklin Field or Subaru park (assuming the Union are open to it) 
• NJ can go to SHI Stadium (Rutgers) or Red Bull Arena (again assuming RBNY would be open to it). 
• PITT can do either lower bowl only at Heinz field, or rebrand/relocate to another market (think Columbus could be one to keep an eye on at (fka) Mapfre, or potentially Chicago at Seakgeek Stadium) 

 

2 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

No added noise. The fans were vocal but they were individually noticeable.  Like you could see individual shouts. A lot of player families were there.

 

The crowd that was there was into it. But the game was so so bad. 

No argument here, doesn't help the lack of a truly "local" team and cold/windy bad weather today either.  Just gritting my teeth for them to make it to year 3 and then actually put PITT, PHI, NJ, NOLA,and HOU in their true home markets. 

 

On 4/17/2023 at 1:35 PM, GDAWG said:

With the Houston Roughnecks playing in Houston, it is unlikely that the Gamblers will ever play in Houston so the USFL needs to figure out what to do with the Gamblers.  If they want an actual presence in Texas, they might have to consider Austin, but where would they play in Austin?  Otherwise the Gamblers motiff and nickname fits a team in Oklahoma (Tulsa) better, unless they want to bring the Outlaws back.  I sense that the Gamblers will either go to a new city or be like the Bandits and be replaced.  If they still want Texas, do they go to El Paso or the Rio Grande Valley?  

 

The Maulers are playing in Canton right now and the USFL are promoting Canton as part of the Pittsburgh Market despite Canton being only one hour from Cleveland.  I think they would have kept their uniforms from last year if they didn't believe that they would eventually play at Acrisure.  The only other stadium is the 5,000 seat stadium where the USL Pittsburgh Greyhounds are playing, but the USFL might see it as too small for what they want in a stadium.  

 

The Generals are in a bind.  I doubt that MetLife Stadium or Red Bull Arena are in play.  That leaves Rutgers and Princeton and I don't think they would be as open to pro football at their stadiums as the University of Houston is with the Roughnecks.  The Generals seem unlikely to ever play a game in New Jersey.  I don't think New York City is a viable option either.    The USFL could be long gone when New York City FC opens their stadium in Queens.  If they want to keep the Generals brand and want to have all of their teams playing in front of actual home fans, I think a better option would be to move the team to the New England area, most likely Hartford at the football stadium where UConn plays.  Would the University of Buffalo be interested in hosting the Generals?  

 

Stars are in a similar situation as the Generals.  Where would they play in Philly?  Franklin Field hosts multiple track and field events during this time of year.  Subaru Park is busy with the Philly Union and Philly Union 2 of MLS NP.  I find it hard to believe that the Linc would be an option though.  

 

As for the Breakers, if Tulane was open to allowing the Breakers to play at Yulman Stadium then that solves the stadium problem for the Breakers.  If not then the Breakers will be like the Gamblers, Maulers, Generals and Stars.....in a bind on where to play.  The USFL has problems ahead with at least four of the teams in regards to their futures beyond the hubs. 

 

 

 Eh, I wouldn't rule out SHI Stadium until we hear something more definitive on that front - they host  Rutgers' Mens/Women's lacrosse teams and have hosted NJ state HS football championships in the past, but I don't think that would preclude the Generals from getting 5 weekend home dates  between April and June - I'm sure Rutgers's Athletic Dept would be open to another revenue stream since they have a substantial debt to pay. 

 

Penn does host the Penn Relays in late April,  but I do think the Stars could work as a tenant there with some flexibility/backloading for their Home Schedule. 

 

My bet is that Fox does not want to abandon 2 of the top 5 US TV markets  that are also located close enough to each other to develop an actual organic rivalry as well, especially since both have multiple venue options on paper.  

On 4/17/2023 at 4:04 PM, Sykotyk said:

 

Central Oklahoma in Edmond has a 10k seat stadium. Wonder if some temp bleachers could be brought in to get it up to 15k-20k. Tulsa could be possible and just go with the Oklahoma name and try to draw from the whole state and southwestern Missouri, southeastern Kansas and northwestern Arkansas. Either way, OKC would be the better market, but the stadium limits it. I don't see OU hosting a team. And an 80k stadium is not what any league should want when they're expecting about 20k at best.

 

 

 

From what I remember, that is basically how it went. Vince knew how badly small crowds in big stadiums looked during XFL 1.0 and focused more on stadiums that could host in the 20-40k range. Seattle being an outlier because of the setup of whatever the name du jour stadium in Seattle has for the Sounders, is that the bottom level feels divorced from the upper deck. Making a perfectly nice 30kish seat stadium if you ignore the tarped off upper deck.

 

But Vince wanted the major markets as much as possible. Chicago was a no go from XFL 1.0 days, but needed NYC and LA for television number purposes. And at least in LA had a good very lined up that fit perfectly.

 

First, it's even worse, it's the Riverhounds, not Greyhounds. And the stadium barely seats about 4k if you squeeze everyone in. A road behind the home side and railroad tracks just beyond the river side makes the stadium nearly impossible to expand.

 

As for Buffalo. No. Not just no. But hell no. That would be like putting NJ in Norfolk or Richmond, Virginia. It's over 330 miles from MetLife to Buffalo (and further since UB is on the north side of town while Bills play far south of town). The best bet for NJ would be Red Bull but Red Bull just doesn't want it. They got the rugby team briefly and the title game last year was played at RBA, but this year they're at another stadium. Also, RBA is hosting the NWSL team. As long as RB owns the team, runs the stadium, etc I don't see it happening.

 

MetLife will rent to anyone. But it's costly, huge, and hard to get to from almost anywhere with people. If not for the Giants and Jets history, there's no way games at the meadowlands would do well. So many other teams tried and failed. This isn't the USFL of the 80s. The Generals will not draw a big enough crowd to make it worthwhile.

 

Rutgers could be an option.  They host HS title games every year it seems. Princeton has the perfect sized stadium but it's highly unlikely they'd ever host an outside team.

 

For Philly, Franklin Field also hosts quite a few high school games. It's in the city. it's perfectly capable of hosting games. It's just old. Villanova Stadium holds 12,500 which for the USFL could work. Union's stadium is there, but one of the biggest complaints is being in Chester and the neighborhood.

 

TLDR for the below - My 2024 USFL predictions: 

 

- HOU Gamblers either move into Rice Stadium or relocate to Tulsa, OK as the revived "Oklahoma Outlaws" 

 

- NOLA Breakers: 1) Yulman Stadium, or 2) Lower Bowl-only Superdome 

 

- PITT Maulers: 1) Heinz Field  or 2) relocate to Columbus and play at Mapfre Stadium 

 

- PHI Stars: 1) Franklin Field, 2) Subaru Park 

 

- NJ Generals: 1)SHI Stadium , 2) Red Bull Arena

 

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Houston could go a couple different directions since there are multiple available stadiums (Rice Stadium, PNC Field), but I don't think Houston will support 2 spring league teams  and the Roughnecks beat the Gamblers to the punch. Given that, I think the Gamblers will relocate to Tulsa, OK as a revived "Oklahoma Outlaws" from USFL 1.0  (ala Tampa Bay -> Memphis this year). Tulsa has a decent sized stadium at H.A. Chapman Stadium. Tulsa was reported to be one of the top TV markets for the USFL last year despite not having a team nearby.  - Tulsa has a metro area of about 1M and  they can market the team statewide for TV ratings (including the 1.4M in the OKC metro), heck they wouldn't even need to change the color scheme of the team either. 

 

Pittsburgh might actually be well positioned to either: a) Move into Heinz Field (I refuse to call it by its current name)  and tarp off the upper decks/strategically angle TV cameras to mitigate its huge size, or b), relocate to Columbus, OH and play at Mapfre stadium (Columbus Crew's old stadium, which coincidentally has the same color scheme) - using the year in Canton as a bridge to Columbus.  

 

NOLA should work fine as a full time home for the Breakers, pending a deal at one of: a) Yulman Stadium (Tulane's FB stadium) which is the perfect size for the team, of necessary, b) the lower bowl of the Superdome with upper levels tarped off/darkened 

 

Philly  should be able to get one of:  a) Franklin Field (first choice if they can schedule around Penn Relays),  b) Subaru Park (assuming they can work out a deal with the MLS team). Either should be fine for what the USFL needs for year 3. If either is off the table, Lincoln  Financial field with tarps on upper decks or Villanova Stadium with extra bleachers could work in theory - though neither ideal. 

 

NJ  - Should be able to get one of Red Bull Arena, or SHI Stadium - the former being more preferable to attract NYC fans, the latter being more likely for actually getting a lease agreement. Rutgers' M/W lacrosse teams play most of their home games there too, but I think the Generals should be able to snag 5 weekends between April and June there for home games. Princeton could work in theory, though the university may not be as keen on hosting games since the stadium is in the center of campus.  Avoid Metlife Stadium at all costs. 

 

 

19 hours ago, LilSmittyC said:

So… since it made season two, y’all think it’s about time to add these logos to the wiki?

Agreed. And also to upgrade the USFL to “active” status from “defunct “ on the main site since the league has the rights to the original league’s history and IP now. 

On 3/31/2023 at 1:34 PM, MJWalker45 said:

Especially if they can get an agreement with the NFL similar to what was used for WLAF/NFL Europe where teams can send backup players out to get more reps. 

That would be great IMO, especially if it was say a 16-team league where each team had ties to 1 NFC team and 1 AFC to take on a certain # of players from each team on the roster. 

TBH given the relatively niche market that Spring pro football is, I think a merger between both leagues is not inevitable but the most likely optimal outcome just from a market consolidation perspective. Would love to see a unified nationwide 16 team league form from it at some point.  

8 hours ago, tigers said:

Now that’s a stat that’ll get the XFL known.

If I were the Defenders social media team, I'd be requesting concessions sales data for the game by area/section bought from Audi Field/Levy (concessions partner) to put that on a graphic and send it out. 

 

Apparently Paris just rebranded from Saints to Musketeers. Good move IMO. 

 

according to the ELF subreddit there might also be some traction around some of the premier teams in Scandinavian leagues like Finland or Sweden potentially joining in the near future. Supposedly reps for the Helsinki Roosters and Stockholm Mean Machines have been previously sighted at ELF games with league execs in I think either Berlin or Hamburg (Northern Germany based teams anyway). 

 

Biggest rumored names seem to be: Helsinki Roosters, Stockholm Mean Machines, Kuopio (Finland) Steelers, and Copenhagen Towers

San Diego also did well in the AAF for similar reasons.  Birmingham did ok based off attendance in the AAF too (Memphis was meh), and the USFL Stallions seems to be doing fine - or about as well as could reasonably be expected given the USFL's odd overall setup. 

 

But It's definitely not just as simple an issue of NFL vs Non-NFL markets either since Seattle, Houston, and DC were the strongest markets in XFL 2020 not named St. Louis as well - even Dallas was ok there (i'll also contend NY was better than it looked - they only had 2 home games and one was skewed by near blizzard level temperatures hitting on short notice, playing at Metlife didnt help). 

 

I think it ultimately boils down to product/market fit + suitable venue + comparable market competition, all of which does require adequate marketing and local presence to build and maintain a fanbase. That's something both USFL 2.0 and XFL 3.0 have been lacking in IMO. 

 

 

 

 

On 2/27/2023 at 8:55 AM, tBBP said:

 

You phrased it better than I was trying to.

 

I too wonder how well the XFL (or even USFL, if they weren't aiming to cash in on their own legacy markets) would work in those "mid-major" markers. I don't know the business side to know how the TV market revenue would affect things (since, at least in the XFL's case, it's more a TV-driven league), and certainly the mid-major markets wouldn't be the big TV markets, but from a fan enthusiasm standpoint—which itself could enhance the TV experience—I think they'd do very well, especially in a place like Omaha.

 

And speaking of Omaha, since I'm down there quite often (and its barely three hours south of me): Omaha done been on the serious come-up lately. It was already on the upswing before they built the Capitol District downtown, especially with all the finance/venture capital businesses out west toward Boys Town and whatnot, but since the Capitol District went in, that town has really taken off. That is really the perfect type of market for something like this. It's got enough people in its metro area (1.5 million or so at last check—somewhat comparable to Pittsburgh, at least), and Lord knows it's got the financial resources (Warren Buffet, anyone?), and it's definitely got the football bug, with the U or Nebraska barely being an hour west of town. (Oh and since the Chiefs done become a lil' mini-dynasty three hours and change further south, it's all kinds of front-running bandwagoning Chiefs fans running around the O right abouy now, too.) What I don't know is if whether Charles Schwab Field can be converted for football...but Lord knows that stadium doesn't get much else use outside the College World Series, so if it can be converted, that'd be a little more revenue for the city since it owns the venue.

 

Omaha would be intriguing. Culturally speaking it seems to punch above its weight class for a city of its size. decent amount of large corporations and institutions there as well.  IIRC the Nighthawks (UFL team from 2010-2011) drew over 20K for all of its home games except 1, and even that drew over 15k. The Omaha Mammoths of the FXFL were the only team in that league to have any attendance to speak of as well.

 

Size wise, they rank 58th in the US at 970k per a 2021 Census Bureau estimate. Def small, but not totally unrealistic either considering  USFL markets Memphis is 43rd at 1.3M, Birmingham is 50th at 1.114M, and NFL markets Buffalo is 49th at 1.115M,and New Orleans is 47th at 1.26M (Green Bay isnt even in the top 150 metro areas either) .  Smallest XFL market by contrast: Las Vegas at #29 with over 2.2M people. But it could work TV wise if you count regional regional viewers as well (Lincoln NE just 2 hours away, Western Iowa, Southern South Dakota maybe? ) 

 

Only question would be a stadium as I'd think the NCAA would object to an XFL or USFL team playing at TD Ameritrade park right before the CWS. Union Omaha is trying to build a 10K seat stadium just north of downtown a few blocks away from a planned new streetcar line and a new office building - a bit small but could work if expandable. (they're applying for economic development grants from the state to cover 50% of the est. $100M total cost for the stadium and full academy/training complex)

 

depending on how the 3 smaller market hubs do in 2023 (Canton, Birmingham, Memphis) part of me thinks the USFL might be willing to take a chance on smaller markets like Omaha if Fox thinks they can get ratings there both locally and nationally- After all, would anyone be that shocked if they say: moved the Houston Gamblers to Tulsa (#54 metro in US at 1.02M - one of the highest rating USFL markets in the league actually) and revived the Oklahoma Outlaws?  I don't think an "Omaha Wranglers"  team would be much more of a stretch. 

Full Neilson ratings don't come out until tomorrow due to Presidents day delaying reporting. But I did see on twitter that apparently some local data is out. The St. Louis vs. San Antonio game outdrew the Daytona 500 in Saint Louis by nearly a 2:1 ratio.  

My understanding has been that the USFL had a multiphase plan to scale the league up. IIRC, the MOU they signed with Birmingham outlined the rough trajectory: 

 

• Year 1 - all 8 teams in Birmingham hub
• Year 2 - “up to 4” teams in Birmingham 
• Year 3 - all teams in home markets  

 

Who knows if  they’ll they’ll stay w the timeline, but right now they are on pace. Fox is the majority owner of the league and NBC does pay a rights fee to Fox for it. 
 

 Both said they were satisfied with the USFLs overall metrics last year, and the USFL said last fall that  they’ve already sold the majority of  ad space for their games in 2023.  It’s also worth mentioning that since they own it they can vertically integrate the league into Fox Corp itself and leverage the infrastructure and companies it already owns, along with synergy possibilities with FoxBet, Tubi, Fox Sports, Fox Broadcasting, and all of the affiliate TV stations owned by the company. 
 

Fox is already getting what it wants out of this league: relatively cheap sports programming that can draw competitive ( if  not amazing)  tv ratings and sell some ads during otherwise quiet timeslots that it outright controls. Different business model then other leagues, which given the fact that it’s back and growing it’s physical presence, just might work as long as they don’t hemorrhage money like AAF and XFL 2020 did.
 
 

6 minutes ago, SSmith48 said:

I get Pittsburgh imagery and all that... but purple/gray/orange is such a unique color combo. And, FWIW, I think the Maulers used it pretty nicely last year. A shame they moved on from it so quickly, especially since the USFL just got another dark color/yellow team in the Showboats.

I don't disagree (though I think the O.G. Maulers looked more like the Chicago Bears than this current version), but at least the colors are freed up for a future original expansion /rebrand. 

 

also someone colorswapped the maulers jerseys on a pic from the USFL official discord, and the results actually look pretty sharp IMO: 

 

Think they're laying the groundwork to try to boost the fanbase for this/future seasons here. Based on recent events: 

 

• Hired a new head coach with direct ties to the Steelers
• Changed colors to be more in-line with the rest of the city teams (say what you will, but Pittsburgh loves their colors) 
• Announced this morning the Maulers (and the Generals) will play at a hub site in Canton, OH at the Hall of Fame stadium (where the championship game was last year - which they actually sold out despite none of the teams being nearby) - which FWIW is within a 2 hour drive of Pittsburgh 

This all seems to align to prime the team to fully move into Pittsburgh for the 2024 season. Seems like Fox is bullish on having a team there. 

On 1/10/2023 at 12:00 AM, Cujo said:

 

Is it really necessary to have 3/8th of the league from the same state?

When that state is Texas, which worships football religiously, and has 2 markets that decently supported their teams from the 2020 iteration of the league, and the 3rd is one of the largest metro areas in the US without an NFL team , and the entire league is based out of a central hub in Dallas (Arlington technically), it makes a lot more sense. 

 

Could hint toward a longer term view with them with expansion too, keep a compact south division and eventually add two western (say, San Diego and San Jose/Denver/Arizona) and two eastern teams (say NY and Chicago/Atlanta for sake of argument) - swap Orlando for St. Louis as needed for 3 relatively geographically distinct divisions.

XFL trying waaaaaaaaaaay too hard to stand out and it looks like Under Armour's design team tried to open up the catalog as much as possible here, and neither does the league or the uniforms any favors. 

 

Makes the USFL's kinda milquetoast and same-y uniforms look  clean in comparison.