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I appreciate this potential (if unlikely) path forward for Oregon State and Washington State: do nothing and stall.

https://www.cougcenter.com/2023/9/3/23857832/pac-12-realignment-mountain-west-wsu-cougars-osu-beavers

On 6/10/2010 at 10:10 AM, TrueYankee26 said:

Colorado Joins the Pac-10!

http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=204958456

Gotta love that this thread has outlasted the entire lifetime of CU in the Pac-12 

11 hours ago, tBBP said:

Worth noting—and I didn't even know this at first until reading that link—is that Eddie George, as in current TSU head football coach, is also part of that group, and at some point over the years developed a real estate development business of his own (good for him!). 

Huh, that is good for him. A few years ago I saw a touring production of Chicago and Eddie George stared in it as Billy Flynn (the lawyer played by Richard Gere in the film). So he's really making the most of retirement.

11 minutes ago, Mingjai said:

Arizona got that wrong, too. They should be ignoring standard time and always be on daylight time. Missed opportunity. 

Look, I'm just glad I don't have to change my clocks twice a year. 

5 minutes ago, j'villejags said:

It's Arizona time, which is Pacific time since they don't acknowledge daylight savings. Their 7 PM is 10 PM eastern.

Ignoring daylight savings is one of the few things Arizona gets right. Technically we're always on Mountain Standard Time. It's just that Mountain Standard Time is the same as Pacific Daylight Time. 

Also, since we haven't heard a report from Tucson today after getting multiple the last few days, I can confirm that I have witnessed no leaks down here in the Old Pueblo. But I also haven't left my house today, so they could still be out there. 

On 4/14/2023 at 10:36 PM, who do you think said:

Suns over Nuggets: Denver is a guilty-until-proven-innocent team and they did absolutely nothing to separate themselves this year. Meanwhile Phoenix has beaten them twice with Durant in the lineup.

I agree that the Nuggets need to prove themselves this year, and I am disheartened by how hard they coasted once they beat Memphis and went up 7 games in the west with about a month to go. That said, I do need to point out those two Suns-Nuggets games featured the Suns starters vs the Nuggets bench.  Aaron Gordon only played in one of those games and no other starter played in either, yet the Nuggets still had a chance to win both games. So I don't think those games really demonstrate that the Suns have any sort of advantage over the Nuggets.

You honestly don't think Kansas Basketball makes money? Kansas is the Texas of Basketball, maybe Kentucky is a close second.

Yes, Kansas basketball makes money. Basketball and football are the two revenue sports of college athletics, but as we saw from last year, football is king. Football is driving all the decisions of conference expansion. When the Pac10 was trying to add 6 Big 12 teams last year, they went for Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado. The only discussed variation was Butler instead of Colorado. If basketball was a factor, Kansas would have factored in or some other big conference would have at least been waiting to swoop them up. Instead, Kansas was faced with the sad truth that, basketball and all, conference realignment was about to leave them in the dust with the other 5 unwanted members of the Big 12. Football and the money it makes drove every decision and discussion for realignment last year. I seriously doubt that has changed.

Wait... what? Butler? I'm pretty sure they're aren't going to leave the Pioneer league any time soon.

Sorry, meant Baylor. Wasn't paying much attention to that one.

You honestly don't think Kansas Basketball makes money? Kansas is the Texas of Basketball, maybe Kentucky is a close second.

Yes, Kansas basketball makes money. Basketball and football are the two revenue sports of college athletics, but as we saw from last year, football is king. Football is driving all the decisions of conference expansion. When the Pac10 was trying to add 6 Big 12 teams last year, they went for Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado. The only discussed variation was Butler instead of Colorado. If basketball was a factor, Kansas would have factored in or some other big conference would have at least been waiting to swoop them up. Instead, Kansas was faced with the sad truth that, basketball and all, conference realignment was about to leave them in the dust with the other 5 unwanted members of the Big 12. Football and the money it makes drove every decision and discussion for realignment last year. I seriously doubt that has changed.

Iowas State and K-State are a bit iffy I'll given you that, but Mizzou and Kansas? Who wouldn't want those schools. In terms of football, yes, you're correct. But Kansas plays basketball too. They also have great track. Also, Iowa State is, along with Oklahoma State, are the top wrestling programs in the nation.

But as we saw last year, even though basketball is the only other revenue sport, football is the only thing this is about. Track and wrestling? That's a joke. No conference is making any decision because of track and wrestling. Mizzou would be the only school you mentioned the B1G could be interested, maybe, and Ok State can find somewhere too (like the Pac-12). Maybe basketball could cushion the blow for Kansas, perhaps K-State too, if/when the Big 12 collapses, but again, football is driving this. Iowa State is just gonna hope someone will pick them up or fall to the MW.

Track and wrestling? Seriously?

Never mind. Why can't I just delete my post?