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  1. Working on the Baseball Cardinals...meanwhile, here's a retrospective of their primary marks...

    Primary Mark - 1927 through 1947:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0100a_1927-1947_S

    Alternate Primary Mark - 1928 through 1939:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0200a_1928-1939_S

    Second Alternate Primary Mark - circa 1930s through 1940s:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0300a_1930s-1940s

    Primary Mark - 1949 through 1965:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0100a_1949-1965_S

    Alternate Primary Mark - 1965 through 1966:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0200a_1965-1966_S

    Primary Mark - 1966 through 1997:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0100a_1966-1997_S

    Primary Mark - 1998:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0100a_1998_SCC_SR

    Primary Mark - 1999 through present:

    SaintLouisCardinals_PMK0100a_1999-9999_S

    We addressed this years ago on this board, but the redesign in 1998 originally had a Red beak on the bird (as well as on the "bird on a bat" uniform script) initially. Was modified in 1999.

    Do you have all those logos in that book? Cause the jersey logos for the Cardinals on the main site has many holes. I took pics of all of these at the Cardinals HOF and Museum, but they are obviously through glass and on an angle.

  2. Might be time to update the AL Champs. I'm not positive, but I assume they ditched the black shadowing on their logos by now

    www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/fmrl2b6xf5hruiike42gn62yu/Kansas_City_Royals/2002/Primary_Logo

    www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/yopnkgblwibmfwv4rx1h/Kansas_City_Royals/2006/Alternate_Logo

    The Black is still on there...I posted all of the correct Royals' primary marks earlier in the thread.

    Still not sure about that. Just today, my friend posted a picture of her brother holding up an old Hawks shirt, probably from the late '80s/early '90s:

    ...

    And that's clearly none of the logos in that timeline. You can tell by the eye: what's supposed to be the pupil, I guess, is much pointier in that '80s/'90s logo.

    Another example of "official" graphics not always being in sync with what's actually worn. Oh - and vector graphics really didn't exist until the early '90s.
    I also have seen this problem with the Hawks logo, I'm recreating the blues initial innaugural game ticket from the kiel center and it has a completely different Hawks logo than any of the ones I have. It's has the more pointed eye, white outline around the earing, different hair shape and kinda minor head dress issues. I'll try to post a pic later
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