Cokeologist

Does anyone have a nice quality image of the Inaugural Season logo on the jerseys?

On 2/11/2022 at 11:44 AM, gosioux76 said:

 

I agree that the Outlaws' addition of copper didn't work. While in OKC — much like a few other teams I mentioned — they unfortunately shared a color palette with Houston. They fixed that upon the move to Arizona by adding the copper pants, which only detracted from what was previously a really clean-looking uniform.  They looked way better in Oklahoma.

 

  

Just for the record, the Oklahoma Outlaws played in TULSA, not in OKC.

Tried looking for an update to the Wyoming Cowboys logo, but couldn't find one (although with a topic this size I could have missed)...is anyone up for this one?

Working on the Baseball Cardinals...meanwhile, here's a retrospective of their primary marks...

Primary Mark - 1927 through 1947:

Alternate Primary Mark - 1928 through 1939:

Second Alternate Primary Mark - circa 1930s through 1940s:

Primary Mark - 1949 through 1965:

Alternate Primary Mark - 1965 through 1966:

Primary Mark - 1966 through 1997:

Primary Mark - 1998:

Primary Mark - 1999 through present:

We addressed this years ago on this board, but the redesign in 1998 originally had a Red beak on the bird (as well as on the "bird on a bat" uniform script) initially. Was modified in 1999.

Nice! Thanks for posting these primaries and alternates; can't wait to see the jersey logos!

Just checking to see how the Cardinals jersey logos are coming along...

Working on the Baseball Cardinals...meanwhile, here's a retrospective of their primary marks...

Primary Mark - 1927 through 1947:

Alternate Primary Mark - 1928 through 1939:

Second Alternate Primary Mark - circa 1930s through 1940s:

Primary Mark - 1949 through 1965:

Alternate Primary Mark - 1965 through 1966:

Primary Mark - 1966 through 1997:

Primary Mark - 1998:

Primary Mark - 1999 through present:

We addressed this years ago on this board, but the redesign in 1998 originally had a Red beak on the bird (as well as on the "bird on a bat" uniform script) initially. Was modified in 1999.

Nice! Thanks for posting these primaries and alternates; can't wait to see the jersey logos!

On the St. Louis Cardinals page:

• The jersey logo shown as 1924 - 1948 is actually 1936 - 1948
• The jersey logo shown as 1957 - 1997 is actually 1966 - 1997
• The jersey logo shown as 1998 - Pres is actually 1999 - Pres
• Referencing the below, none of the jersey logos prior to 1936, or the 1949 - 1950, 1956, 1957 - 1965, or 1998 jersey logos are on the Cardinals' mothership page

This is from a logo catalog created by the Cardinals

I have the official versions of all of them...will post later.

Just checking on status for posting these Cardinals jersey logos. Thanks for your service to the forum community.

On the St. Louis Cardinals page:

• The jersey logo shown as 1924 - 1948 is actually 1936 - 1948
• The jersey logo shown as 1957 - 1997 is actually 1966 - 1997
• The jersey logo shown as 1998 - Pres is actually 1999 - Pres
• Referencing the below, none of the jersey logos prior to 1936, or the 1949 - 1950, 1956, 1957 - 1965, or 1998 jersey logos are on the Cardinals' mothership page

This is from a logo catalog created by the Cardinals

I have the official versions of all of them...will post later.

Outstanding; can't wait to see them - thanks very much!

On the St. Louis Cardinals page:

• The jersey logo shown as 1924 - 1948 is actually 1936 - 1948
• The jersey logo shown as 1957 - 1997 is actually 1966 - 1997
• The jersey logo shown as 1998 - Pres is actually 1999 - Pres
• Referencing the below, none of the jersey logos prior to 1936, or the 1949 - 1950, 1956, 1957 - 1965, or 1998 jersey logos are on the Cardinals' mothership page

This is from a logo catalog created by the Cardinals

Fantastic work as usual! Couple questions:

What is up with the Clemson Tiger-Soldier? And isn't it Tulsa Golden Hurricanes, not Tornadoes?

Keep up the outstanding work ren!

No, it's Tulsa Golden Hurricane (singular), not Hurricanes (plural)

And I have never seen this Tulsa logo before, other than on some patches being sold by a seller on eBay.

I could help doing exact duplicates of older logos, if someone knew who to submit them to to have them uploaded to the site.

Making exact duplicates of older logos would be a great service to the community! Would you be willing to start with these St. Louis Cardinals historical "birds on the bat" logos, noting the differences in the evolution of the birds on the bat design over the years? The version on the Cardinals' page on the main site that is labelled as "1924 - 1948" should actually be 1936 - 1948; and the one that is labelled "1957 - 1997" should actually be 1966 - 1997. If you can do the other birds on the bat logos shown on this resource (other than the 1951 - 1955 and the 1966 and later logos on the sheet below, which are already on the main site), that would be great:

Thanks in advance for your willingness to make these older logos!

Hi, I sent this in to UniWatch last year as apart of the article we published, and the artist (on behalf of the St. Louis Cardinals) would appreciate that you do not try and duplicate these graphics, as they are already digitized, and those digitized versions have been deemed authentic. All other St. Louis Cardinals fan created graphics are not authentic and for obvious reasons should not be trusted. Thank you for your understanding.

Hello, who are these "I", "we", and "artist" you speak of? Links please. What's UniWatch? What article are you speaking of? Where was it published? Links please. What happens when 'amateurs' 'duplicate' sports graphics, or any graphics for that matter? Where can we see these authentic digitized graphics? Who deems digitized versions as authentic? Okay, so we, amateurs, shouldn't 'trust' any concepts / graphics / 'duplicates' created by other amateurs? Where do you draw the line between duplicates and concepts? Where do we draw the line between 'pro' and 'amateur'? Links please, if you should have any, for us to better understand, what you are implying with your very first post. Is that what you're saying here? What happens when non St. Louis Cardinals fans / amateur artists 'duplicate' / create concepts? What are these obvious reasons you speak of? What do you mean by 'trust'? Any more links you can help us understand what you're saying here? You see, we're 'amateurs' here, creating concepts and would appreciated your understanding. Thank you so much for your understanding us 'amateurs' here at boards.sportslogos.net

Wow! I just realised the original artist is well over 114 years old! Is she / he okay? How is his / her health? Does she / he still create graphics for the St. Louis Cardinals? Please tell him / her "Hi!" from us amateurs here at boards.sportslogos.net. Thank you so much, Minor League Guy

Uni-Watch is the blog of Paul Lukas, an ESPN columnist who is the number one journalist in uniform related news. I love the site and read it everyday.

The article linked here is Paul Lukas interviewing St. Louis Cardinals designer Gary Kodner. Kodner was frustrated by MLB/Majestic branned merchandise and onfield attire that incorrectly displayed logos and scripts past and present. Kodner's requests to MLB and Majestic to portray the Cardinals logos correctly were blown off, so he dilligently digitized and catologued all the correct logos and details of the franchise to avoid unauthentic attire in the future. After reading the article I gained a better understanding of where minor league guy is coming from.

What I think minor league guy, cokeologist and gatorhunter dont quite grasp is that Ren69's thread is about taking old dated logos and updating them to have a fresh look, not digitizing old logos exactly.

I completely grasp the intent of this thread. I was simply responding to the other member's offer to recreate older logos, since I have been unsuccessfully looking for nice, clean, large size versions of these older Cardinals logos for quite some time (and I don't have the skill to do them myself). The fact that these older Cardinals logos may have already been diligently digitized and catalogued by the individual referenced above doesn't do much good to fans who would like to have them for personal purposes like computer wallpapers, if they aren't available to us. That is why I turned to members of this forum who have incredible skills to see if someone would take this on, and in particular the forum member who offered to recreate older logos; but unfortunately the other member who made the offer did not respond.

I could help doing exact duplicates of older logos, if someone knew who to submit them to to have them uploaded to the site.

Making exact duplicates of older logos would be a great service to the community! Would you be willing to start with these St. Louis Cardinals historical "birds on the bat" logos, noting the differences in the evolution of the birds on the bat design over the years? The version on the Cardinals' page on the main site that is labelled as "1924 - 1948" should actually be 1936 - 1948; and the one that is labelled "1957 - 1997" should actually be 1966 - 1997. If you can do the other birds on the bat logos shown on this resource (other than the 1951 - 1955 and the 1966 and later logos on the sheet below, which are already on the main site), that would be great:

Thanks in advance for your willingness to make these older logos!

Hey ren69 - one more University of Tulsa related request - how about an update for the hurricane flag logo, keeping the same basic design but giving the flags more of a hurricane force windblown look, rather than the gentle breeze flapping look of the current logo? Amazing work with the logos in this thread; keep 'em coming! Thanks in advance.

My HS football team used this plain white Yankee logo on our football helmets back in the day. Maybe you could give him a personality.

Well done with the update to Huffy the Hurricane, and thanks very much!!

Sorry if I'm bugging you, but are you working on the vintage Louisville logo a couple of pages back?

Not yet but I'll get to it soon.

I also don't want to bug you, and I know you are getting a tremendous amount of requests (and doing an amazing job with them), but thought I would also check to see if you are able to work on an update for the vintage University of Tulsa Huffy mascot logo on pg 13 (next page after the referenced Louisville logo). Thanks in advance.

You know, I looked & looked at that logo trying to figure out how I could improve it but basically it's already a nice logo & just needs a clean up treatment. Guess I can say the same for the Louisville Cardinals logo but we'll see how they turn out once they're done. I will work on it here pretty soon also. Thanks for following the thread.

Thank you; very greatly appreciated!

Sorry if I'm bugging you, but are you working on the vintage Louisville logo a couple of pages back?

Not yet but I'll get to it soon.

I also don't want to bug you, and I know you are getting a tremendous amount of requests (and doing an amazing job with them), but thought I would also check to see if you are able to work on an update for the vintage University of Tulsa Huffy mascot logo on pg 13 (next page after the referenced Louisville logo). Thanks in advance.

How about an update for Huffy, the now retired mascot of The University of Tulsa Golden Hurricane?

Just renewing the request for an update for Huffy in case it got lost among the subsequent requests. Thanks!

How about an update for Huffy, the now retired mascot of The University of Tulsa Golden Hurricane?

I'm looking for the font used on the North Carolina Tar Heels basketball jersey; can anyone help? Thanks in advance!