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  1. Except that it's not really a contest. A contest, in the terms you are referring to, is a means to give away a prize. The chief benefactors in a contest are the contestants. This is a lottery. Everyone is paying their way in, yet only one or two will make out with more than what they put in. The chief benefactor in a lottery is the lottery itself, or in this case the team. Now, I don't frown upon all design contests. For example, the Grand Rapids Griffins have done a great one the past few years doing one-off fan designs. The Manitoba Moose did one back in the day that was pretty great as well. But they also have appropriate rewards and they don't get the potential rights to multiple designs. As for your last point about the industry. Of course there is competition. Studios and design firms regularly respond to RFPs and perhaps do a little prep work to help secure clients from other studios. But if you ask an architect to come up with a finished blueprints for a house or building, you will pay for them. You don't ask 4 different wedding photographers to photograph your wedding only to pay the one who took the best pictures. This is what portfolios and websites are for. Eventually, it may take money out of your pocket. One less client that's willing to pay your fair market value because they can get it done for free. eventually, yes it could, you're right. flip the coin over, say someone wins and it leads to high paying branding assignments for them because of the exposure. there are alot of "ifs" and "whens" in life, i just choose to not get upset about something that i definitely cannot control. now, i'm not saying that i'm personally going to enter, but you have to realize, this contest isn't putting anyone in line at the welfare office. It isn't? I have college loans, studio expenses, and basic living costs just like anyone else. Me and my studio could sure use the extra work and income; and if not my studio, then I would rather have them pay someone like Fraser, Andy, Brandon, or even Joe (if he still takes tiny fish jobs like this anymore ) because it helps them pay their bills. And what if 5 other teams see that contests like this get not only a large amount, but also quality design work for an embarrassingly small investment? There goes 5 more potential clients. Then 20 teams do it. It's playing with fire. i was speaking in terms of this contest, and this contest only. yes, i have bills too. yes, in the grand scheme of things it could be a snowball effect on how minor league teams handle these sorts of things. yes, it is a disservice. i agree with you on all points and i have never been "pro" to these sorts of things. all i'm saying is, personally, i will not shun someone for doing this, that's all. the biggest disservice to our industry would be that fact that someone got paid to do their dreadful primary logo.
  2. Eventually, it may take money out of your pocket. One less client that's willing to pay your fair market value because they can get it done for free. eventually, yes it could, you're right. flip the coin over, say someone wins and it leads to high paying branding assignments for them because of the exposure. there are alot of "ifs" and "whens" in life, i just choose to not get upset about something that i definitely cannot control. now, i'm not saying that i'm personally going to enter, but you have to realize, this contest isn't putting anyone in line at the welfare office.
  3. other colleges that have that similar shade of blue other than what you mentioned: memphis buffalo delaware georgia state south dakota state central connecticut state southern (but i think they plan on switching to white)
  4. i guess it boils down to this, you have issues with the organization for doing this, don't enter. no one is forcing you to do so. if you think it might be fun and worth your while, then have at it. i make a living as a professional designer, is this taking money out of my pocket? no, not at all, the contest is already in place. would i like to get paid to do something like this? absolutely i would.
  5. ain't that the truth. LOL for you "designers in training" the horror stories of "make it smaller, no now make it bigger, now its too big. just give us what you had originally" is truth i once had a "request" to make the type 1-2% bigger, not 1-2 points bigger, 1%. it is almost impossible to see that. i turned in the same thing, the response, "much better!". morons.
  6. if i could tell you what kerning is, then id be concerned lol kerning is the spacing between letters. for example, lets look at your option A. move back from your screen, see how it reads SE CRET? tighten the gap between the SE and CRET. the lack of stem on the R is visually creating a gap as well. for SOCIETY, the S is floating too far to the left, and the tightness between I & E almost makes the I look non-existant. same issue with the Y as the R. with some slight modifications, your mark will be greatly improved.
  7. Chickenfish- This is an interesting idea you have proposed. Obviously you can't please everyone, especially on a message board, so proceed with how you see fit. And if you're still looking for advice, here's what I would suggest: Pick one team name, and have all contestants do that city and nickname. For example, um, I don't know... Wyoming Werewolves for example. This way no one gets fixated on a particular name or city, it's an even playing field. Good luck.
  8. your kerning is all over the place.
  9. like the removal of the blue outline stroke. hate the bottom jaw/lip shape.
  10. is "great lakes" based in toledo? if so, i like the one post of naming them the watersnakes. you can't go in the lake without those things swarming you. btw, i've been enjoying this thread, you do some great work.
  11. how do you intend to get this in front of the owner? do you work for the team in some way? relative? fan mail? you should really consider the advice given by MattMilone, it's 100% correct.