JMurr

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  1. @Pulv! Thank you for your thoughts. I agree, I think the beda font is old yet readable. One other font that I’m not yet ready to give up on however is the kelmscott font. I think it meets the same criteria, with perhaps capturing a bit more of a Nordic/Scandinavian feel. Even if the name suggests it to be more British/Scottish inspired. I think I’m narrowing the font down to these two. Please everyone tell me which among these two you like best. I have also made adjustment to the ski dimensions. @Pulv!I certainly think you where right about the scale of the skis. I also really liked your idea of putting them more behind the shield. I think it helps bring them into the logo as a whole. Before they kind of felt like an after thought, just added on top. Floating above but not really fitting in. What does anyone think about the look now? Has the scale of the ski issues been fixed and does placing them behind the shield bring them more into the overall design? And finally, I’ll once again ask please let me know which of the two finalist font styles do you like best?
  2. @MJWalker45 Thank you for your imput. With it in mind I have tinkered with some things. First off I thickened the stroke on the letters over the shield. In the first version I kept the letter colors (black and white) the same but in the second I reversed them. I do believe already this is an improvement. I think I do like this font for the logo, however I did also look around for other possible fonts to work with this logo. I have below five possibilities: Seagram Cardinal JMH Beda Kelmscott Amperzand Personally I think the Kelmscott is a strong contender. Again please anyone provide thoughts and input.
  3. I seek your assistance. I am starting a project and seek the assistance of this community in developing it so that it may be the best it can be. To begin I present here the logo for the league. This league is not like most others on this board. This league is the Norsk Skihopping Assosiasjon (Norse Ski Jumping Association). The year is 1886. A little about the logo and its influence. At the center of it is a shield. The shield is styled and colored in the fashion of the Norwegian flag. In 1886 Norway was historically actually a part of a union with Sweden. As part of this union some slightly different flags then the one we know today flew over Norway. However, the flag of modern times had already been used before the union and was at the time the base for Norway’s flag as part of the union. Therefore, I stuck with this design because although Norway is at the time united with Sweden, the league is exclusive to Norway. The shield is supported by two figures. At left a Viking and at right a reindeer, both representative of Norway. Centered above the shield is a pair of crossed skis, representing the sport. Centered over the shield is the initials NSA, standing for Norsk Shihopping Assosiasjon. I am presenting the logo here in three forms. One brightly colored, one with saturated colors, and one black and white. This is a work in progress so please advise.
  4. Tuesday, May 14, 1878 – Bronx, New York Big news comes in the development of the PHPL. Henry Chadwick, owner of the New York Clippers, announced that his team will play their inaugural season at Jerome Park Racetrack in the Bronx. Joining them in that stadium for the first season will also be the Brooklyn Swats. The Swats are waiting for a suitable stadium to be built in Brooklyn. They anticipate playing just this season or perhaps next as well in the Bronx before they can move to Brooklyn. Both teams also unveiled their logos. Jerome Park Racetrack (Bronx, New York) New York Clippers (1879) Brooklyn Swats (1879)
  5. Monday, May 6, 1878 – Chicago, Illinois In 1878 the sporting goods equipment and retail business of Albert Spalding was thriving. As his wealth began to grow due to the business of sport, Spalding looked for every opportunity he could to foster the love of athletics in every American. Baseball was and remained his first love but his motive to diversify the love of sport caused him to look for other games he might elevate in stature. One game he found was the Swiss game of Hornussen. Spalding found the game fascinating and he felt that if he could get Americans to love the game as well it was one that would require its practitioners to purchase equipment; equipment he could sale to them. Thus Spalding resolved to organize a professional Hornussen league in the United States. He called the league the Professional Hornussen Players League (PHPL). He decided he would serve as the league’s first commissioner and he would sale four franchises. The charter of the league that he wrote stated that franchise owners would be fully proprietary, maintaining near complete control of their clubs. The first franchise he sold was to his friend William Hulbert. Hulbert was the owner of the baseball Chicago White Stockings. He wanted to name his Hornussen club the White Stockings as well but Spalding did not like this. He wanted his league to be distinct from any baseball league. Spalding suggested the name Pioneers to Hulbert and that stuck. Spalding remembered the name from the Rockford Pioneers, the first baseball team he ever played for. So William Hulbert’s team will play in Chicago and they will be called the Chicago Pioneers. The second franchise was sold to Morgan Bulkeley. Bulkeley was brought into the league by the suggestion of William Hulbert. He, along with Spalding and Hulbert, was a long time and early organizer of baseball. Bulkeley decided he would place his team in his hometown of Hartford, Connecticut. Outside of sports Bulkeley was interested in politics. As the league was organizing he was beginning to lay the foundation for his political career. Like many northerners at this time he was an avid fan of Abraham Lincoln and the 16th Presidents party the Republicans. In tribute to Lincoln, Bulkeley named his team the Hartford Republicans. The third franchise sold was purchased by Bob “Death to Flying Things” Ferguson. Ferguson was a player/manager in baseball and had worked for Morgan Bulkeley previously. He had also worked as a league director in the original National League. After purchasing his own team, Bulkeley talked Ferguson into picking up the third franchise in the league. Although Ferguson was very busy traveling with Chicago White Stockings at the time, he decided to place his team in his hometown of Brooklyn, New York. For a nickname he decided to dub his club the Brooklyn Swats. The name served as both an homage to his nickname as well as serving as a fitting name for a team in a sport where players attempt to swat a flying flute out of the sky. Finally Albert Spalding sold the fourth franchise. He got sports journalist Henry Chadwick to take ownership of the franchise. Chadwick decided to place the team New York City and call the club the New York Clippers. He gained inspiration for the name from the magazine that he was working for at the time, The New York Clipper.
  6. Based upon the suggestions that this be sharppend up as more of a primary logo by adding a background shape I have crafted the two shown below. The first is a more traditional ovel while the second is more of a stretch. It features a triangle background. Thoughts?
  7. Moving in the right direction?
  8. JMurr

    Ajax Crest Concept

    Beautiful. Well done. I second much of what Thecargeek said, simplistic yet an excellent evolution of the current crest. If anything needs some attention it is the helmet.
  9. Now that you say that I think that the oval effect is because I have the sun bursts around the ball coming in to tight near the C.
  10. Which is better with or without the palm tree. Also and C&C to improve is much appreciated.
  11. Monday, July 5, 1886 League President William Kissam Vanderbilt holds a big news conference to make several announcements. First the Rhode Island Quakers will play this year at a temporary home of Harris Warehouse in Woonsocket, Rhode Island. The set up will only have room for 500 fans. Second the league will for the first time this year give an award to the most valuable player for the year. In honor of the fact that his previous season should have earned him such an award the trophy will be named the David Wharton Trophy. The award will be presented by the league and the league president makes the final decision as to who it will go to. The award will be presented annually. Third the schedule was released: January 7-8, 1887 Race Wars 5 at South End Grounds in Boston, Massachusetts Jan 15, 1887 Stags @ Dutchmen Quakers @ Buccaneers Archers @ Rustlers Jan 22 Dutchmen @ Archers Buccaneers @ Rustlers Stags @ Quakers Jan 29 Archers @ Stags Rustlers @ Quakers Dutchmen @ Buccaneers Feb 5 Stags @ Buccaneers Dutchmen @ Rustlers Archers @ Quakers Feb 12 Rustlers @ Stags Quakes @ Dutchmen Buccaneers @ Archers Feb 19 Dutchmen @ Stags Buccaneers @ Quakers Rustlers @ Archers Feb 26 Archers @ Dutchmen Rustlers @ Buccaneers Quakers @ Stags Mar 5 Stags @ Archers Quakers @ Rustlers Buccaneers @ Dutchmen Mar 12 Buccaneers @ Stags Rustlers @ Dutchmen Quakers @ Archers Mar 19 Stags @ Rustlers Dutchmen @ Quakers Archers @ Buccaneers
  12. Race Wars pick order Pick 1 – Boston Rustlers Pick 2 – New Orleans Buccaneers Pick 3 – Rhode Island Quakers Pick 4 – Detroit Archers Pick 5 – New Orleans Buccaneers Pick 6 – Detroit Archers
  13. Monday, May 10, 1886 – Boston Rustlers signing day The Boston Rustlers sign Frank Rich to their Middle position for $5,000 a year. Tuesday, May 11, 1886 – New Orleans Buccaneers signing day The Buccaneers opt not to sign any free agents but rather go make two selections at Race Wars. Wednesday, May 12, 1886 – Rhode Island Quakers signing day The Rhode Island Quakers opt not to sign any free agents. They have one open spot and will fill it at Race Wars. Thursday, May 13, 1886 – Detroit Archers singing day The Detroit Archers are another team that opts not to sign any free agents. With two open rosters spots they will fill them both at Race Wars. Friday, May 14, 1886 – New York Dutchmen singing day The Dutchmen sign Franklin Claiborne who had previously played for them back in 1883. He will make $4,000 a year and will fill the Second Option position. Saturday, May 15, 1886 – Hartford Stags signing day The Stags sign Frederick Harris, formerly of the New Orleans Buccaneers, as their Cleanup. They will pay him $6,000 a year. Sunday, May 16 – Sunday, May 23, 1886 – last call for free agents On Monday, May 17 the Stags sign David Delius formerly of the New York Dutchmen, as their Middle. He will earn $6,000 a year.
  14. Sunday, May 2 – Sunday, May 9, 1886 – Coach Week Coach Week is a bore. The first day being a Sunday, as is customary, no teams negotiated but on the second day both teams with open coaching jobs filled those jobs. The New York Dutchmen wasted no time in signing John Vanderbilt and the Rhode Island Quakers in turn signed John Root. Essentially the two teams trade coaches.
  15. Saturday, May 1, 1886 – Boston Rustlers cut day The first thing to be taken care of was the announcement of who is the team’s new owner. P.T. Barnum, owner of the Hartford Stags, was on hand to make introduce his friend Moses Kimball as the owner of the Boston Rustlers. For the move the team will retain Head Coach Stewart Cavendish and in fact they gave him a raise due to the hardship he has had to endure for the last couple years. The team released both of their free agents; Franklin Claiborne and Robert Parnell.
  16. Friday, April 30, 1886 – New Orleans Buccaneers cut day Changes coming to the ownership arrangement with this team. Former 90% owner George Montagu is retiring from ownership of a team in this league. He sold 80% to the team’s new majority owner, former Rhode Island Quakers owner Alva Vanderbilt. His remaining 10% he sold to his wife who already owned 10% of the team. So she now owns 20% of the team. The team just went through the worst season they have ever had. They retained however Coach Robert Harcourt who was in his first year as head coach. However both of their free agents, their two best riders, parted ways with the team to enter free agency. Both of them have already signed tentative agreements with other teams; Frederick Harris with the Hartford Stags and Frank Rich with the Boston Rustlers.
  17. Thursday, April 29, 1886 – Rhode Island Quakers cut day Big changes coming about for this once dominating team. First of all their owner Alva Vanderbilt announced today that she has sold the team to her business associate Richard Morris Hunt. She will be sticking with the league however as she moves over to become the new majority owner of the New Orleans Buccaneers which will are owned by her childhood friend. Second came news that their stadium, Messer Street Grounds, will be closing so the team will have to find a new home. This issue is still not resolved. Then as the new owner went into negotiations with his coach and free agents he was immediately broadsided. Coach John Vanderbilt informed Hunt that he would be leaving the team. Vanderbilt has signed a tentative agreement to become the head coach of the New York Dutchmen. Interestingly Hunt turned around and signed former Dutchmen coach John Root to a similar tentative agreement. The good news was that the team’s strongest rider Angelo Koller was willing to resign with the club and with his advice the team cut Third Option Karl Blaine in hopes that they can perhaps acquire something better in Race Wars.
  18. Wednesday, April 28, 1886 – Detroit Archers cut day James Anthony Bailey remains the team’s owner. David Small is back as the teams coach but with a slight pay raise. Both of their free agents however were let go; Second Option Dave Brown and Third Option Vernon Black.
  19. Tuesday, April 27, 1886 – New York Dutchmen cut day Nothing changes with the ownership but other changes are going to happen. First the team officially announces that they will be moving to Madison Square Garden in Manhattan, they will have a new logo, and perhaps biggest of all due to pressure from the three minority owners John Root will not be back as the head coach. The team is said to be eyeing John Vanderbilt, currently of the Rhode Island Quakers, as their new coach. When it comes to free agent the team had to negotiate with David Delius and Eliezer Zille. Delius who is a native of Hartford, Connecticut decided to sever his ties with the Dutchmen and move on. The Dutchmen therefore decide to mitigate damage done to their club by signing Eliezer Zille to a new three year contract but at only $3,000 a year.
  20. Monday, April 26, 1886 – Hartford Stags cut day P.T. Barnum, thrilled by his championship, will most certainly be back as the owner of the club. Head coach Caspar Alva was given a $5,000 pay raise and brought back for another year. The team of course has one open spot on their roster due to the recent passing of Oscar MacLean. This affords them the unique distinction that they have an open two year contract. They offered it to Second Option John Mills who accepted. Their other free agent Ernest Browning was not offered a new contract but released to free agency. The Frederick Burke who last season played in the Cleanup spot was moved to the Third Option spot after the team reached out two Frederick Harris of the New Orleans Buccaneers and David Delius of the New York Dutchmen, both of whom are free agents. Verbally both have given their commitment to the Stags. Of course these verbal commitments are none-binding however.