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I don't know if it's the best way to do what you want, but you can always via the pathfinder select all that you want and then hit divide and you can actually select the pieces you want to delete. Just make sure to deselect the image and then click back on it or you will delete the whole image. It's a going to be time consuming, but I think it's what you want.

Thanks for that advice gord. I'm always looking for better ways to do things. There are so many tools that sometimes you don't know what tools do what in what program and until someone explains them to you, you are clueless. Thanks, I'll go and try that.

I'll answer the second one because it's easier. Click Shift+F9 and it'll bring up the pathfinder pallette. Click both objects that you want to combine and then play with Shape Mode or Pathfinders until you get what you want. As far as how to delete part of a logo on a shoulder, there is an easy way. With the black arrow, click on the outline of your jersey, then duplicate it (ctrl+c) and hit ctrl+f to paste it in front. Now go to your layers and click both copies of the jersey and hit ctrl+7 and it'll put them in a group. Open that group up and you'll see clipping path and path. I usually have my clipping path with the outline and the path whatever color. Why? Because everything below the clipping path gets clipped, so if you have a 1 pt stroke it becomes a 0.5 pt stroke. Now I'd take the logo and place it below the clipping path and you have the logo looks like it's on the jersey but it's clipped where you can't see it. It also works great when you place your shadows and highlights under a clipping path too.

I don't think a basic design like this would be all that hard. If you know how to layer properly and use clipping paths, it shouldn't be that hard to do. The easiest way to do it would be to do the seats on one layer and then do the walkways tunnels above it.

Make a second circle the same circumference as the top of the letters on top. Then type what you want on that. Now here's the key trick. Take the white arrow tool and click on the I-beam and drag it towards the center of the circle.

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with Tiger, but I've just heard so many complaints that CS2 crashes all the time.

Glad I could help and they're looking good.

Redrawing is an option. Of course you could take your jumpers and select them then place them over where you want them, and then unselect thme, (stay with me) then take your white arrow and select the jumper to see where your anchors are. Then you can adjust those and add other points/anchors and make your adjustments that way.