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Moses Malone:

Zach Thomas:

Isaac Bruce:

Phil Niekro:

Tino Martinez:

Pudge Rodriguez:

Derrek Lee:

When it comes to who's worn the most uniforms, Rickey Henderson comes to mind, even though we all associate him with Oakland. If he'd only played for the Giants for just one game, he'd have played for every team in California:

By the time his contract is up he would have spent more time as a Tiger than a Brewer, possibly hit his 500th and win a World Series or two.

Correct, but most of the players in the "wrong" uniforms lean towards people who have worn a specific jersey for 2 years or less. He'll have worn Milwaukee for six years. It will never look weird.

Wait for the 2022 "Players in the 'wrong' uniforms" thread, and see where sentiment swings then haha. But seriously, Fielder in a Brewers uniform will probably never look weird to current posters, but depending on how his Tigers tenure turns out, future posters will probably associate him almost exclusively with Detroit. It's like how I see Grant Hill. Despite playing more games, and earning more accolades, with the Pistons than with any of his other teams, it's been so long since he's worn a Pistons jersey, I associate him with the Suns more than any other team at this point.

Hill has almost spread his time with teams evenly though. Six years in Detroit, six years in Orlando, and four years with Phoenix. Who knows if he'll play two more years, but by the time he retires, he may have been with 3 teams for the exact same number of years.

By the time his contract is up he would have spent more time as a Tiger than a Brewer, possibly hit his 500th and win a World Series or two.

Correct, but most of the players in the "wrong" uniforms lean towards people who have worn a specific jersey for 2 years or less. He'll have worn Milwaukee for six years. It will never look weird.

I'm sure these have all been examples before, but I think they definitely drive home the point:

Soon:

Ha...I don't think so. He played enough years, and made enough of an impact for Milwaukee, that if he were to actually be come a Hall of Fame candidate, the Brewers would retire his number. Therefore, he doesn't count as in the "wrong" uniform.

I've noticed recently that private sports stores owned by individuals (i.e. not corporations like Champs, Finish Line, Sports Authority, etc.) are frequently selling Chinese knockoffs. There are a ton out here in the Midwest. Anyone else see this, too?

I've heard it but haven't personally seen it.

Even a big place out here like Denver Autographs has the knockoffs for sale with autographs on them. It's more the throwbacks than anything current, but it's really a problem that's getting bigger.

I don't understand why players would knowingly sign a knockoff considering they know what an authentic is because they wear them for their jobs. I would think overall that would bring the value of the signature down. I'd rather have them sign a well-made replica than a crappy knockoff authentic. I guess ultimately it just comes down to price. Most people don't care about true authentic jerseys as long as they can get a good deal on something else. I have to wonder though, if the market gets saturated with enough Chinese knockoff jerseys, will the price of the real authentics come down in order to compete.

The store I saw out here had a bunch of Bears, Packers, Vikings, Browns, Steelers, and Dolphins knockoff jerseys all on a rack. All on "sale" for $59.99. This was the quality of them...which isn't bad, but you can tell it's a knockoff:

NOTE - This is not a photo I took at the store. It is a photo I saw online that looks exactly like what I saw at the store...tags and all!

The letters, numbers and logos on the jersey are a dead give away. The longer those jerseys are worn and the more they are washed the worse the quality gets. Also the stitching on the numbers and letters is not the correct (dare I say iconic) zig-zag pattern that we are used to seeing.

Also, the athletes might not be signing those jerseys, the autographs could be fakes too.

See, but I'm aware of it. It's a matter of are other customers aware? I mean, there's not much I can do anyway. Should I stand outside of the store with my own authentic, replica, and "swingman" jerseys to show would-be customers what the differences are from the Chinese fakes? I bet I'd get kicked out real fast. All kidding aside though, I'm debating writing to teams when I see stores selling fakes. I could tell the Chicago Bears of this store since it's in their area.

I've noticed recently that private sports stores owned by individuals (i.e. not corporations like Champs, Finish Line, Sports Authority, etc.) are frequently selling Chinese knockoffs. There are a ton out here in the Midwest. Anyone else see this, too?

I've heard it but haven't personally seen it.

Even a big place out here like Denver Autographs has the knockoffs for sale with autographs on them. It's more the throwbacks than anything current, but it's really a problem that's getting bigger.

I don't understand why players would knowingly sign a knockoff considering they know what an authentic is because they wear them for their jobs. I would think overall that would bring the value of the signature down. I'd rather have them sign a well-made replica than a crappy knockoff authentic. I guess ultimately it just comes down to price. Most people don't care about true authentic jerseys as long as they can get a good deal on something else. I have to wonder though, if the market gets saturated with enough Chinese knockoff jerseys, will the price of the real authentics come down in order to compete.

The store I saw out here had a bunch of Bears, Packers, Vikings, Browns, Steelers, and Dolphins knockoff jerseys all on a rack. All on "sale" for $59.99. This was the quality of them...which isn't bad, but you can tell it's a knockoff:

NOTE - This is not a photo I took at the store. It is a photo I saw online that looks exactly like what I saw at the store...tags and all!

I've noticed recently that private sports stores owned by individuals (i.e. not corporations like Champs, Finish Line, Sports Authority, etc.) are frequently selling Chinese knockoffs. There are a ton out here in the Midwest. Anyone else see this, too?

Kevin Millar

Ryan Dempster

Ahh, the glory days ... right, Puckguy?

What about this version of Eddie the Eagle?

Paul Konerko as a Dodger!

And he's playing third base, even.

Didn't show up, so here's another version:

Paul Konerko as a Cincinnati Red:

November 11, 1998: Reds trade Paul Konerko to the Chicago White Sox for Mike Cameron.

David Wells, also as a Cincinnati Red:

December 26, 1995: Reds trade David Wells to the Orioles for Trovin Valdez and Curtis Goodwin.

Got to wear the Blackhawks ring earlier this year:

I've, sort of, got an interesting twist to this. My father was a big Ray Nitschke fan as a kid. They have a few counterfeit Nitschke jerseys, and I'd like to get one for him. He's never cared about whether a jersey is authentic. In fact he only owns one jersey, an authentic Panthers hockey jersey that has the #1 and DAD on the back with a captain's "C" on the front. My brother and I gave it to him for Father's Day. Otherwise he'd never buy a jersey for himself.

Seeing as he wouldn't care if it's authentic or not, should I get him the Chinese counterfeit? If he ever found out I spent $300 on an authentic jersey for him, he'd return it because that's how he is. He doesn't want people going out of their way for him. If he knows I only spent $30, he's much happier (weird, right?). Thoughts?

Cris Carter

Andre Dawson

Thurman Thomas

Trevor Hoffman

Scott Mitchell

In general I would have to say that I'm against buying Chinese fakes. However, I can only think of one circumstance where it's acceptable. If you want a Michael Jordan or Charles Barkley swingman jersey, you HAVE to buy a Chinese fake. You know why? Because nobody even makes them the legit way! Sure it's not perfect, and you can tell they are fakes, but really you have no other choice.

Yeah, most of that just wont work, Mac. Boise State in the ACC is absolutely insane in terms of travel. That and Nevada, Fresno State, Utah State, and San jose State don't have the population density or the academics required to join the Pac 10. In fact, about half of the teams in EVERY conference you listed don't even meet a small portion of the conference criteria necessary to join.

Yeah I know. I was trying to make a few 20-team super conferences. It's not as easy as it looks.

If all of this actually occurs, with teams switching conferences, I think this is what I would like to see happen:

SEC

Florida

Florida State

Miami

USF

UCF

FAU

Texas

Texas Tech

Georgia

Georgia Tech

Tennessee

Alabama

LSU

South Carolina

Ole Miss

Kentucky

Vanderbilt

Mississippi State

Auburn

Arkansas

Big 10

Notre Dame

Missouri

Nebraska

Illinois

Indiana

Iowa

Michigan

Michigan State

Ohio State

Wisconsin

Penn State

Northwestern

Purdue

Minnesota

Kansas

Kansas State

Pittsburgh

Western Michigan

Miami (OH)

Ohio

ACC

Boston College

Clemson

Duke

Maryland

North Carolina

NC State

Virginia

Virginia Tech

Wake Forest

FIU

UMass

East Carolina

Syracuse

West Virginia

Marshall

Louisville

Cincinnati

UConn

Temple

Boise State

Pac 10

Arizona

Arizona State

USC

UCLA

Washington

Washington State

Stanford

Oregon

Oregon State

Cal

Fresno State

Hawaii

Utah

Utah State

Colorado

Colorado State

Nevada

UNLV

San Jose State

BYU

Big 12

Texas A&M

Texas Tech

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Baylor

Iowa State

Tulsa

UTEP

Tulane

Houston

New Mexico

Wyoming

TCU

Western Kentucky

North Texas

Middle Tennessee

Idaho

Toledo

Bowling Green

Akron

Big East

Army

Navy

Air Force

Arkansas State

Louisiana Lafayette

Louisiana Monroe

Troy

Louisiana Tech

Florida A&M

Georgia State

South Carolina State

....and 9 other teams that probably will suck

Essentially it rules the Big East useless, but still a Division 1 Conference. The Big 12 is drastically weaker, but Oklahoma still has SOME competition. No doubt OU is the big loser in this scenario though. Then you have the SEC and Big 10 being the premier power conferences with the ACC and Pac 10 still solid. Each 20 team conference would break into 10 team divisions, thus forcing a Conference Championship game for everyone.

The Big 10 has sent invites to Notre Dame, Nebraska, Missouri, and Rutgers to join up. That would make for an interesting conference, although Nebraska vs. Wisconsin would get confusing b/c they look alike. Notre Dame fits, Missouri is still Midwest...I don't get Rutgers though. ESPN is reporting that the SEC is considering a response of adding Florida State, Miami, and Texas. This could get interesting....

Cris Carter

Mike Piazza

Alonzo Mourning

Gary Payton

Todd Bertuzzi