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  1. How about... Shaq in a Raptors jersey?

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    When was this?

    Yeah, what the hell is that? Does Shaq just show up for random photo shots to see how he?d look in everyone?s uniforms? thicon_lol.gif

    That was in mid-2008 based from my research in Google. By the way, that really looks terrible.

    Remember that one time Hakeem Olajuwon tried on a Raptors jersey?

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    At least Hakeem didn?t have man-boobs! thicon_biggrin.gif

  2. Are the seats really black? That's pretty cool.

    It's nice that they have the rafter all to themselves for banners. Some of the Flyers / Sixers banners are hard to see, because they can't be hung in the middle like that. Also, the Flyers have gone to (at least for division, we'll see about conference this year) single banners with multiple years on them - think Celtics retired number banners. I guess they were running out of space cause of the Sixers.

    I think the color is actually a charcoal gray, but it still looks good irregardless.

    That Consol Energy Center look pretty awesome!

    Ive been hoarding construction photos of the place, I got to say, inside its a helluva building. Im not a fan of the exterior, but given the option of moving to Kansas City, I can live with it.

    Cool! You outta post 'em!

  3. Look, this is a good move for Utah, but let's not pretend being in the MWC was utter crap for them either.

    I'm sorry if that's how you took my original comment about the MWC, that's not exactly what I mean.

    Call me crazy but I don't see Utah doing too many 12-0 seasons playing a Pac-10 conference schedule. Not for a while anyway. Still, good for you Wasatch and good for your Utes.

    Oh I totally agree. It'll be interesting to see how they rise to the call, but only time will tell. And thanks by the way, I know all my Utah friends are going fanatical about this too! :D

  4. Finally, the day has come where my Utes are moving to a conference of legitimacy, a conference where they finally have a shot of competing for the National Title! This is the biggest day in history for the University of Utah Football program! Hallelujah!!!

    Pac-10 invites Utah as 12th member

    SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah is poised to become the 12th member of the Pac-10, as the conference quickly pivoted Wednesday to invite the Utes after being turned down by Texas and four other members of the Big 12 two days ago.

    Utah officials did not immediately say whether the invitation would be accepted. However, a source tells ESPN that Utah will join the Pac-10.

    Utah associate athletic director Liz Abel said the athletics department would not comment until Thursday after the school's board of trustees meets to discuss the school's conference affiliation. A news conference was scheduled for 3 p.m. ET at the football stadium following the meeting.

    Pac-10 officials are expected to attend Thursday's news conference in Utah.

    Utah has been a member of the MWC since the league began in 1999 -- and one of its most successful in football and basketball.

    There had been speculation on Tuesday that Utah would be the next school to be approached by the Pac-10. When asked about the possibility, school president Michael Young told The Associated Press "we wouldn't anticipate making a move of this magnitude without the concurrence of our board of trustees."

    Utah would not have to pay a penalty to depart the MWC, per conference rules.

    A message left with Randy Dryer, chairman of the board of trustees, was not immediately returned Wednesday. If Utah bolts the Mountain West, it would be the latest in a string of conference affiliation changes.

    Last week, Colorado decided to leave the Big 12 and accept an invitation to join the Pac-10. Nebraska also has said it will leave the Big 12 for the Big Ten, while Boise State is fleeing the Western Athletic Conference to join the Mountain West.

    The Mountain West called a news conference for Thursday after Utah's.

    Earlier in the week, Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State recommitted to the Big 12 instead of hopping to the Pac-10.

    That left the Pac-10 in need of another member to reach the 12 required to hold a football championship game. Pac-10 spokeswoman Danette Leighton declined to say when Utah would begin competing in the Pac-10 if it accepts the conference's invitation.

    The addition of Utah now gives Colorado a geographical rival and travel partner. The league is likely to divide into two six-team divisions, and how that will shake out is unclear.

    The other members of the Pac-10 are USC, UCLA, Stanford, California, Washington, Washington State, Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon and Oregon State. Utah had already previously scheduled games with Oregon in 2011, and Washington State and Colorado in 2012 and 2013.

    Utah officials have long been frustrated about their inability to play for a football national championship while in the Mountain West. Utah had an undefeated season in 2008 but was not invited to the national title game. It defeated Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Utah also went undefeated in 2004 and did not play for the national championship.

    Under the Bowl Championship Series, the champions of six conferences have automatic bids to play in top-tier bowl games, while the other conferences such as the Mountain West don't. Those six conferences also receive more money than the other conferences.

    Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, angered that the Utes were denied an opportunity to play for a national title, has said he's investigating the BCS for possible antitrust violations.

    He said although Utah is Exhibit A as to why the BCS is unfair, the investigation would continue if Utah changed conferences. He plans to meet with the U.S. Department of Justice in July to discuss the matter.

    "We're convinced the system as set up is anticompetitive," he said. "It goes way beyond the University of Utah."

    Utah lawmakers, including U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch, also have expressed their frustrations with the BCS.

    Last year, the state legislature adopted a resolution calling for a playoff system to determine college football's national champion after an undefeated Utah was shut out of the national title game for the second time in four years.

    Utah's lawmakers contend the BCS formula is flawed and gives schools from the major conferences an unfair advantage that would make it impossible for a school such as the Mountain West's Brigham Young University to win the national title, as the Cougars did in 1984 when they were a member of the WAC.

  5. So there's a new wrinkle to the MSG renovation plans. They're going to add "bridge seating" that will be suspended from the ceiling to hold up to 1,000 more fans.

    It's a great idea for almost any other arena, but it'll ruin the iconic "Fan Ceiling" that the Garden features.

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    Wow, that's crazy. The floor would have to be some type of transparent glass though!

    It would be nice if the picture enlarged but, based on what I see, that isn't hanging over the ice.

    You?re right, it does look like it?s hanging over the crowd versus the ice, but now that I mentioned the idea, wouldn?t it be cool to have a bridge that?s right over the ice/playing floor? :D They could feature some type of glass floor like what the CN Tower in Toronto has.

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  6. So there's a new wrinkle to the MSG renovation plans. They're going to add "bridge seating" that will be suspended from the ceiling to hold up to 1,000 more fans.

    It's a great idea for almost any other arena, but it'll ruin the iconic "Fan Ceiling" that the Garden features.

    madison_square_garden--300x300.jpg

    Wow, that?s crazy. The floor would have to be some type of transparent glass though!

  7. Yes again, everyone knows the pairing of the Big O and Lew Alcindor was a big deal but despite what you think, it?s never brought up, it?s lost in the pages of time. So again, it?s cool to a nice banner big bold letters reminding everyone that comes to town, IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and the Bucks were legit at one time! :D

    It's actually a little depressing to go in there and realize that through the early '80s the Bucks were a dominate team in the NBA, but could never get over that hump to get back to the championship and now are cellar dwellers. They won the Midwest Division title every year between 1980-86 and made it to the Conference finals 3 times in that frame. Between the time that the Bucks were born ('68-'69) and Kohl bought the team ('85-'86) the Bucks missed the playoffs only 4 times, won 2 Conference and 1 NBA title. Since Sen. Kohl bought the team they have missed the playoffs 12 times. It's still shocking to me that the franchise as a whole is still 100 games over .500, despite their awfulness of late.

    Back on topic, I really like how the Bucks and Marquette handled their retired numbers. The Bucks with an image of the uniform worn, and Marquette with a picture, coloring and lettering of the uniform worn.

    Precisely my point, the Bucks franchise has slipped into the deep sea, and when a team like who?s won a championship, and doesn't come up for air every 5-10 years, that championship memory seems to dwindle away! It's sad, but it's reality.

  8. That '71 Bucks team was a pretty big deal. Oscar and Kareem, two of the ten best players ever. Compare that to those forgettable Bullets, Warriors, and Supersonics teams that won titles in the '70s.

    Yes again, everyone knows the pairing of the Big O and Lew Alcindor was a big deal but despite what you think, it?s never brought up, it?s lost in the pages of time. So again, it?s cool to see a banner with nice big bold lettering, reminding everyone that comes to town, IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and the Bucks were legit at one time! :D

  9. Here are some Bucks, Marquette and Admirals banners from the Bradley Center. The Bucks divisional Banners surround the scoreboard, and the World Champions banner is at the south end. Marquette and Admirals banners are in opposite corners of the arena. Sorry for the quality I snapped them from my phone:

    Bucks Championship and Retired Numbers

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    I don?t know why but I think it?s so cool that the Bucks have a Championship banner hanging in the Bradley Center!

  10. "Western Conference Regular Season Champions"? Is there such a title? Is anything actually awarded to the 1 seed in each conference? Or are they just looking for reasons to make banners?

    I think the team just does it if they feel like it?

    I know the Red Wings do the same, but the Sabres do not do this (They were the "Eastern Conference Regular Season Champions" in 2007, but there is no such banner mentioning it)

    What about the other 28 teams...anybody got info on what they do?

    stars have "wester conference regular season champions" banners too... i'm not a fan, but it really really makes us look even more successful than the 3-4 mavs banners, as if we didn't already.

    I guess that?s what it?s all about, trying to amplify just how much success you?ve actually had!

  11. Question about MSG:

    I was there for the first time yesterday, but I was in the Theater part of it. I was really just in for the show and then out, so I didn't really get to see much of the arena.

    Is the Theater above the sports arena part of it? It seemed like it was, but I couldn't tell for sure if it was literally like a second floor, or if it was something that was just on the side.

    I worked at MSG for 4 years...

    The Theater is within the arena. The basketball court/ hockey ice is on the fifth floor, and then the seats expand up from that all the way to the top floor which is the sky boxes.

    The Theater is beneath all that, I believe the stage level is on the first floor and the top row of seats is on the 2nd floor.

    When you say "floor", you mean seating tier, right? Not like the arena is on it's own floor, like it's an office building and it has stuff above and below it, right?

    So from what it sounds like, the theater seems to be nestled in behind the first and second levels of seats, where you would normally expect something like a locker room to be?

    Something like


    *
    *
    *
    *
    * <------200 level seats
    *
    * <----- 100 level seats
    theater *
    theater *
    theater * court / ice
    theater ***********************************

    No, he means like an office building. The floor/ice is not at ground level. MSG is 10 stories tall, the floor is on the 5th floor and the seating is on floors 5-10. I've never been to the theatre portion but from the way he describes it I think the theater is below the arena.

    Now that I re-read his post, it makes more sense now. Still, it certainly didn't look like a 10-story building. I was staring at it as we walked up to it, and it didn't appear to be much taller than the Wachovia Center or any other arena. Of course, it may have been an illusion, since there's a big tower right next to it.

    To get to the theater, we had to go up at least one escalator. Can't remember if more than one. We then walked through the lobby where the bars are to get to the seating, and walked down to our seats. It would make sense that we entered on the second floor, and walked down near the first where the stage is.

    It seemed so small though... like it couldn't have taken up the entire floor (unless there's a huge area behind the stage.)

    MSG has diagrams on its website. As you can see here it takes up about a quarter to a half of what would be the arena floor.

    http://www.thegarden...verview-map.pdf

    Here is the general overview of MSG diagram. As you can see the Theater is floors 2-3, and the arena is floors 5+. I think floor 1 is the lobby. I don't rally know the only part of MSG I've been in was Penn Station.

    http://www.thegarden...verview-map.pdf

    Has for its height it is probably a little of both. The bigger buildings around probably do create an optical illusion but Wachovia Center might not be that far behind in size. Remember MSG was built in the late 60's about the same time as the Spectrum in Philly. Layouts were different where it goes out more instead of stacked like arenas today. Thus the arena portion isn't as tall. As a comparison look at the height of the Spectrum compared to the Wachovia Center.

    Cool, thanks for the info!

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1135433/index.htm

    This old Sports Illustrated articles was written when they first built the Garden IV... if you click "view this issue" under the title and go to page 39, there is an interesting diagram. What was originally intended to be a bowling ally is now the club restaurants and also the becomes the theater "studio" area where they do post-draft press conferences interviews.

    That's a horrible diagram that's hard to make out.

  12. Of course the worst piece of sports related political pandering, at least in America, that I can think of was when Giuliani, a guy who has made a lot of political capital out of being a Yankees fan, said he was rooting for the Red Sox in the World Series in 07, months before the NH primary.
    On the bright side, it wound up being a 1-for-1 swap!

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    Hillary in any kind of baseball cap just looks awkward! thdoh.gif

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