Philsphan
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The Big East has added teams that don't fit the Eastern or "Big East reputation" requirement and the real Big East schools have left for the ACC. Here is a scenario where the football minded half of the ACC and Big East form a new conference and the Basketball powerhouses form the strongest conference of all time.
Metro
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati
USF
UCF
Houston
SMU
Memphis
Virginia Tech
The reincarnated Metro adds old teams such as FSU, Lousiville, VT, Memphis and Cincinnati along with many former Conference USA members. Almost all Metro teams are still located in urban areas.
Big East
Wake Forest
NC State
UNC
Duke
Virginia
Maryland
Georgetown
Villanova
Rutgers
St. John's
Seton Hall
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Notre Dame
Boston College
Connecticut
Providence
Teams from this new Big East Conference have won 9 out of the last 13 NCAA Nat'l Championships. A trade off for this conference would be a weak football conference.
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UNC
Duke
Florida State
Miami
Unless Miami gets absolutely raped by the NCAA the ACC would still split up Miami and Florida State with hope of a Miami-FSU championship game. They'd then develop a schedule that keeps permanent cross over opponents.
I was torn on this. Would the ACC rather have a FSU Miami title game or have them play guaranteed every year.
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Here's what I would change
EAST
North Atlantic
New England Patriots
Buffalo Bills
Cleveland Browns
New York Jets
South Atlantic
Miami Dolphins
Tampa Bay Bucs
Atlanta Falcons
Carolina Panthers
Mid-Atlantic
Philadelphia Eagles
Dallas Cowboys
Washington Redskins
New York Giants
Central
Pittsburgh Steelers
Baltimore Ravens
Cinncinati Bengals
Indianapolis Colts
WEST
Pacific
Oakland Raiders
San Francsico 49ers
San Diego Chargers
Los Angeles (insert name, as long as its not Jaguars lol)
Gulf
New Orleans Saints
Kansas City Chiefs
Houston Texans
Tennesee Titans
Mountain
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Denver Broncos
Arizona Cardinals
North
Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears
Minnesota Vikings
Detroit Lions
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Seeing these two articles got me thinking about an Super Conference alignment where Texas and BYU go to the Big Ten. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8487712/ohio-state-buckeyes-texas-longhorns-set-home-home-series
In this scenario, the Big Ten would be the first to expand adding Texas, Kansas, BYU and Rutgers. In many scenarios the Big Ten gets stuck with an academically inferior member that doesn't fit the conference. (Kansas State, Iowa State) But, in this scenario, the Big Ten gets 4 pretty good academic schools that fit in the Big Ten model of being a large research university.
The Pac 16 grabs Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Baylor. 4 good football universities and by grabbing these 4 Big 12 schools, the Pac 12 avoids being geographically shut out of Conference Realignment.
SEC decides not to expand. Let's face it. An NC State or even a Virginia Tech would get crushed in the SEC and the SEC would rather not raid another conference.
The ACC takes West Virginia to get to 16 (and add a historic rival of VT) when Notre Dame decides to abandon Independence to play in a division with Pitt, Syracuse and BC, 3 historic rivals. Notre Dame stayed independent until it became clear that they would not have a spot in the new playoff system if they didn't join a conference.
Schedules
Big Ten
All teams play fixed rivals and half of remaining Big Ten teams each year. So, there are no real divisions
Penn State-Rutgers
Michigan-Ohio State
Purdue-Indiana
Illinois-Northwestern
Wisconsin-Michigan State
Iowa-Minnestoa
Nebraska-Kansas
Texas-BYU
Pac 16
Teams play division and half of remaining Pac 16 teams
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
USC
UCLA
California
Stanford
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
Baylor
ACC
Teams play division and half of remaining teams
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Boston College
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
UNC
Duke
Florida State
Miami
Wake Forest
NC State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
SEC
Stays Same
Conference Screwed
Connecticut
Temple
Louisville
Cincinnati
USF
UCF
SMU
TCU
Houston
Memphis
Kansas State
Iowa State
Boise State
San Diego State
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What playoffs are you talking about? If it's National Championship playoffs, yes and if their record is good enough you can bet they will be in it. If you're talking ACC playoffs, no because they're not in the ACC in football.
In my post I described how a conference playoff might work in the ACC if they take UConn. The winners of the three divisions plus a wild card would make the conference playoffs. Do you think if ND had a good enough winning percentage in the five games against ACC teams they should be able to take the wild card spot in this hypothetical conference playoff?
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After the Notre Dame move today, which I think is really big, Here's what I think happens next...
ACC gets UConn in all sports, goes ahead with a 15 and a half (ND will play at least 5 football games against ACC teams) members.
Big East falls apart
Louisville and Cincinnati go to Big 12
Rutgers goes independent
UCF, USF, Houston, SMU go back to C-USA and Boise and San Diego St go back to the MW
ACC football divisions
UConn
BC
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Duke
UNC
NC St
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Florida St
Clemson
Miami
Each team plays division and 4 other teams. First conference playoff is formed. All three division winners make playoffs and a wild card. 1 plays 4. 2 plays 3. In addition the rest of the conference plays in ladder form. 5 plays 6. 7 plays 8. Etc.
Week 2: Conference Championship
(Notre Dame plays 2 teams from each division.) Do you think ND should be eligible for the playoffs if their record is good enough??
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Here's a cool look at what would have happened if the Pacific Coast League had moved past Open league classification in the 1950s and become the third major league before the Dodgers and Giants could leave New York. Do you think it would have been better this way?
National League
Brooklyn Dodgers
Atlanta Braves
New York Giants
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
Cincinnati Reds
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals
American League
Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Kansas City Athletics
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Chicago White Sox
Minnesota Twins
Pacific Coast League
Hollywood Stars
Los Angeles Angels
San Diego Padres
Sacramento Solons
Oakland Oaks
San Francisco Seals
Portland Beavers
Seattle Rainiers
Central League
Houston Astros
Colorado Rockies
Miami Marlins
Milwaukee Brewers
Texas Rangers
Toronto Blue Jays
Arizona Diamondbacks
Tampa Bay Rays
Division 1 College Conference Realignment
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A few thoughts.
1. Tradition of the Big Ten and the ACC has been somewhat messed with. The Big Ten is no longer Midwest and the ACC lost one of its founding members. Also, Maryland acted as a bridge between the South and the new Northern schools. (BC, Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, ND)
2. I'm so glad the Big East (which was a complete mess) is finally folding. The Big East was my favorite conference but once WV, Pitt, and Syracuse left and they filled those spots with Boise State, Navy and Temple, I lost all respect. Hopefully, the football schools will split away calling themselves the Metro (all football schools are in cities) and the Basketball schools will add Catholic or primarily basketball schools to Gtown, Nova, St. John's, Marquette, etc (Xavier, St. Louis, St. Joes)
3. It's good that UConn will probably reunite with Syracuse, BC, and Pitt.
4. I don't think that there will be any more moves for a while. If you haven't noticed, the Big 12 is doing pretty well in football these days. I think they are happy with a round robin football schedule and happy with their overall brand. I don't think they would want to add FSU, Clemson or Louisville unless the ACC totally collapses. Because the Big XII stays put, the ACC will too after adding UConn unles they are sniped by the Big Ten or SEC which I believe has NOTHING to gain by adding NC State or even VT. Blacksburg isn't a huge market and the state of North Carolina is dedicated to UNC and Duke.
What do you guys think?