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24 minutes ago, jus2damcrazey219 said:

 

Didn't someone mention the possibility of a team being named after Randy Orton?

 

St. Louis Predators confirmed

 

Nashville would like a word.

8 hours ago, Brian in Boston said:

Joe Bosack's branding work for the AAF was, hands down, the best thing the league had going for it. Frankly, if the league's executive leadership and financial solvency had been even half as strong as Joe's graphic design work, the AAF wouldn't have flamed out before completing its inaugural season. 

Completely subjective take, as is mine.  I deal with athletic team branding every single day, and in my professional opinion, the only AAF logo & color scheme that was marginally acceptable was San Diego’s.  The rest were a debacle, not even on the level of many MiLB branding, and part of the reason the league didn’t catch fire.  The poor identities, names, logos and color choices severely hindered that league’s ability to pull in fans.  And those designs bled over into the uniforms, which were equally as bad, if not worse.  

My fear all along has been that the XFL would make the same mistake.  That potential, after seeing these teases, still exists.  

The XFL needs to set a seriously high bar with this unveiling.  It’s taken them long enough that, if they fail here, it could be indicative of their future success.  These identities need to be perfectly executed to get fan buy-in.  Especially when your first 2 signings are Landry Jones and Ryan Mallett.

One thing we can likely assume from these teases is that these logos will all look and feel similar, ala the AAF.  What they needed to do was strike a balance between modern and timeless, like the NFL.  Many here love traditional uniforms and logos, but I don’t see much simple Dallas Stars or Chicago “C” logo teases here.  Many feel like they may be overdesigned.

I 100% hope I’m wrong and the XFL has nailed it.  With the rumor of a “Vipers” team and several teases here, you can consider me nervous.  I want this league to long-lasting and successful.

1 hour ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

I like about half of those color sets, not blown away in general, pretty standard.  I'll have to see what they turn out to be.

The Red/White and the Royal/Grey/White scare me.  Those are really drab on their own. 

Part of what scares me is that this looks like Joe Bosack work again.  I pray that it's not.  Joe hits it out of the park with event/conference/tournament logos, but really has, more times than not, missed on team identities.  The AAF is the most devastating example of that.

Okay, so THAT has to be Seattle...and I like it.  Kelly Green + Lime Green + Yellow Gold.  Sweet.

That means what I thought was Seattle before with the Green + Navy + Orange is someone else.  New York?  Although Royal/White/Silver would be a viable New York scheme, even though it's just a Red short of being the Giants.

Hopefully in 24 hours we'll know.  I do like that 

7 minutes ago, WideRight said:

My guesses, and they are pure guesses:

 

SEA= greens with blue & orange

NY=Black & silver

HOU=sky, red & black

DC=Red, Blue, silver

DAL=Red & white

LA=Red,Orange & black

 

2 teams left and so far no metallic gold, yellow, teal, purple, brown, burgundy and only minimal orange. I expect at least 1 team in purple and 1 with either yellow or gold in the final 2.  

Almost exactly what I said, except I don’t think there’s any way that LA is not Silver & Black and Orange/Red/Black HAS to be Tampa.

Also no Royal Blue yet.  Royal & Yellow-Gold would be Rams-ish in St Louis.  

NY seems to be the wild card and with McMahon being an NYC guy, I doubt he goes Purple.   Vegas/Metallic Gold + another color?  I really don’t have a guess.

I hope they don’t use Maroon or Cardinal at all...horrific.  I could live with a Brown if well done.

Fun to speculate and will be interesting to see how these end up.  I’d imagine we get full logos on Tuesday, as someone else said.

9 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

Seattle Dragons:  looks like 2 shades of Green + Navy + a little Orange.  That could get a little 90’s ish.

Tampa ?:  they just went and matched the Bucs.  Odd, but makes some sense.  I was hoping for Tennessee/Creamsicle Orange + Black + Gray, similar to what Oklahoma State used to do.  The Red is just too much.

I can’t wait to see the whole reveal for the Carolina Blue/Red/Black team...based on that combo alone, that might be the team I throw my support to.  I’m in Orlando, so I’m secretly hoping it’s Tampa, but realistically it has to be Houston.

Early, early predictions:

Dallas:  Red or Crimson/White

Houston:  Light Blue/Red/Black

Los Angeles:  Silver & Black

New York:  

Seattle:  

St Louis:  

Tampa:  

Washington, DC:  Red/White/Navy/Grey

Red in 3 team brands already; I’d expect to see some Orange for Tampa, Yellow/Gold in St Louis, Green in Seattle and who the hell knows for New York...though I was hoping for a  Black/Grey/Charcoal/Yellow-Gold “Gotham City” setup.

So...no one gon’ mention this drop today?

On 5/15/2019 at 9:09 PM, Derek said:

 

Type is ok, the rest looks like an amateur concept for an energy drink.

Classic example of a small Division I that wants to be a big Division I blowing huge money on a "design firm" that has no experience in the actual production of this product. 

Those aren't even the real basketball uniforms...really, no different than any concept poster here, except that Duquesne paid them a ton of money.  Nike didn't have their hands on this, and neither did the Nike dealer that the university uses.

On 5/9/2019 at 4:57 PM, WideRight said:

OK, having only contributed the concept of the SharkBear to this conversation (You are welcome) I feel I owe it to the board to actually propose identities for the 8 XFL teams, so here goes:

 

XFL NY:   New Jersey G-Men-- Same colors as the old XFL Hitmen (Royal, Black, Grey) but inverting from mobsters to the feds who busted them.  Logo is a Silver/black badge, which will look great on a blue helmet.  I chose to go with NJ since they will actually play in the Meadowlands and this is a way for them to distinguish themselves from other NYC area teams.  Yes, it links to the Giants, but the name is different enough to stand on its own.  Blue helmet with black/silver logo.  Blue jersey with black yoke, silver pants, blue socks. 

 

XFL DC:  DC Power-- A double meaning name for the halls of power, but also DC electricity.  Logo will involve lightning bolts.  Colors:  Purple & Old Gold.  I wanted to get away from the red-white-blue color scheme and the obvious poltical/military names but still have a name that makes sense for the nation's capital.  Purple helmet with gold & white lightning from front to back (similar to old XFL Birmingham but only 2 bolts), Purple jersey, Old gold pants. 

 

XFL TBY:  Tampa Bay Plunder-- With a huge pirate ship in the endzone you really have to try to tie in.  I picture a logo that includes either a treasure chest, gold dubloons, or some other pirate booty reference without copying the Buccaneers pirate images.  Colors would be something like teal, black and metallic gold, or possibly Navy and metallic gold with teal or silver.  Teal helmet with gold & navy logo.  Navy jersey, white pants, teal socks.   Something similar to NFL Europe's Hamburg Sea Devils. 

 

XFL STL:  St. Louis Bombers-- A red, white & blue team with WW2 motif in design.  Helmet logo is the classic star in circle with wings.  Main logo should include a B-52 or other classic plane.  Helmet is white with logo, red jersey with blue sleevecaps, white pants, red socks.  

 

XFL DFW:  Dallas Rawhides-- Logo is horse-related, somewhere between Boise St. and SMU.  Colors:  Brown, Old Gold, orange, similar to WLAF's SA Riders.

I am picturing an old-gold Helmet with a brown/orange logo.  Brown uniform with swirling "cowboy shirt" design on the yoke, old gold pants. 

 

XFL HOU:  Houston Flames-- Flame logo that forms an H, secondary logo uses an oil derrick with a flame to evoke the Oilers.  Colors: Navy, Red, Orange

Navy helmet with flaming H logo.  Navy jersey with red & orange sleeve caps.  White pants with flame similar to AZ Wranglers of USFL. 

 

XFL SEA:  Seattle Sasquatch-- Logo is a Bigfoot silhouette similar to the heisman pose (RB running).  Colors:  Athletic Gold, Forest Green, Brown

Yellow helmet with brown facemask.  Green jerseys and yellow pants.  Brown used only as piping. 

 

XFL LA:  Los Angeles Condors-- Logo is a condor head with the white neck plummage.  Colors:  Black & White with thin piping in neon pink

Black helmet & jersey (white collar to parallel Condor head).  White pants with black stripe.  Thin neon pink piping around yoke & pant stripes.

 

I work with many many schools with varied color combos and have some subjective feedback to your color scheme recommendations:

NY:  Royal/Black/Grey.  Very dark & drab with no pop.  I cringe when I run into a school with these colors, as they are difficult to make look good.  This scheme would work well for another team if you replaced Royal with any light/bright color, such as Columbia Blue, or Pink as you suggested for LA.  North Carolina has done some Grey uniforms and that could be a nice fit for NY.  New York is pretty grey & gritty though, so perhaps they do get the Black/Grey treatment.  I would be open to a Navy/Black/Gold (WVU) or a Black/Grey/Gold (Army Black Knights) here.

DC:  Purple/Vegas.  Doesn't really relate to anything DC or "Power", and is the same scheme as the failed AAF Atlanta team; I doubt the XFL would copy one of their teams' color schemes to avoid confusion.  As much as it is cliche, I'd be shocked if we didn't get a Navy/Red/Grey or White scheme here, knowing McMahon.  And honestly, it does make sense. It would fill the vacuum of Navy/Red/Grey that the Patriots' Reebok-designed uniform leaves:  the absence of a great pro or college football uniform that uses those 3 colors (outside of Ole Miss). 

TB:  Teal/Black/Vegas Gold?  You mean the Jacksonville Jaguars colors, on the other side of the state?  No way.  There's a LOT of red in that stadium.  I would not be surprised if we saw the old Creamsicle Orange return in some form.  I think you're right that there could be a pirate-theme, unfortunately.  They should look back to Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden-era Grey/White/Black/Orange combos for a great crossover look that's still unique.  Pair Creamsicle with Light Grey and a little Black and you've got a winner.  Halloween colors?  Call'em the Tampa Bay Spirits.  Give'em that vibe.

STL:  Red/White/Blue.  The AAF Memphis Express just used these colors a few hours away.  Again, not sure if, outside of DC, that the XFL would choose to use a scheme so close to the failed AAF teams, especially for the only XFL team in the Midwest.

DALLAS:  Brown/Gold/Orange.  Yeesh. This one would be tough to pull off because it's so dusty & drab.  Which makes sense, if the identity is a western motif.  No one in pro football uses the color Brown (EDIT: what a stupid oversight) and for good reason: it's not attractive.  Wyoming is the only time it looks semi-decent.  Perhaps a Grey/Brown/Gold combo could work; adding Grey b/c you can't just copy Wyoming (or copy their Grey unis from a few year's back, minus the digital camo).  Perhaps we see Texas Orange/Black here?  The Longhorns' practice unis look sweet, but that might be too close to home.

HOUSTON:  Navy/Red/Orange. You lost me at "flames".  I would look for Light Blue & Red to make a return here...combined with Black, because XFL (and the need to differentiate enough from the Oilers, while calling back to that history).  Which is an outstanding combo that I can't recall anyone ever using.  Google "Black Houston Oilers" and see some of that hats that are out there for an example.

SEA:  Gold/Green/Brown.  Love the Sasquatch suggestion. Hate the color scheme.  Again, brown is tough.  Maybe as a tertiary color mixed with Kelly.  Kelly Green with Vegas Gold lettering could be a nice look, but with solid Brown numbering and a clean design, and this could be pretty unique, though potentially difficult to read.  Still, it would look like they're either a bunch of park rangers, or Shaggy from Scooby Doo.  Wild card?  They do Green/Gold...ala the Seattle Supersonics.  That'd be a smart win.  "Seattle SuperSquatch".  Kidding.  Though "Seattle Squatch" could work...#getsquatched

LA:  Black/White/Pink.  I think this is closer to what we'll see from some XFL teams. I fully expect a few to have bright colors - a bright, light blue; a neon green/yellow; and a hot pink could all find their way into designs.  It's a new brand that needs to be distinct, and that's what bright colors do - they grab your attention.  My namesake is the most visible color to the human eye.  Nike isn't stupid with their use of Volt.  The Florida Marlins' updated colors, or the Miami Heat Vice Nights uniforms could be a model, especially for a team like LA, if any.

Fun game to play.  Anxious to see what the XFL marketing team came up with.

Winston Moss to be named HC of the LA team this afternoon.  7 down, 1 to go (Houston). 

Worth noting that only 3 of 32 NFL Head Coaches are African-American, and 1 is Latino, while 3/4 of the league is African-American.  With Pep Hamilton, Jonathan Hayes, and now Winston Moss, 3/7 new XFL coaches are African-American.  Worth keeping an eye on as they attempt to recruit players away from the NFL in the long run.

With the XFL announcing their TV distribution model today - an impressive one, at that - one of the only things left to unveil are the final coaches (Houston & LA) and then the brand partner and team identities.  

So far, almost all of their moves have been well thought-out and well-received.  Jeff Fisher is the rumored Houston coach, but we've not heard much on LA yet.  Could they possibly bookend the 1st announcement of Bob Stoops with another big name at the end, to make up for the lackluster hires of Trestman, Zorn, Haynes and Gilbride?

Lastly, is it fair to speculate now on potential uniform/licensing partners and potential color combinations?  With UA out of sight in the Big 3, do they get back in the game with the XFL?  Did the league wait to secure stadiums before finalizing team identities, so that they could align their colors with the stadiums they're playing in?  There's a lot of red in at least 4 of these venues. 

If they nail it, they'll land on a mix of team identities that are distinct - some timeless, others retro, yet others futurisitic - and put the brands on gear fans want to wear.

I still can't believe no trademark filings have leaked, or any indications at all.  Anxiously waiting the reveals.

 

Has anyone been able to track down XFL trademark filings?  Surely they would've registered team names and domain names by now.

REN!!! You are extremely talented sir. This is incredible - I didn't think anything could actually make this logo look good! Do you have a donation link? And is there any way I can obtain a vector file of this from you? Keep up the fantastic work!

Ren69 - I'm sorry for your loss. A good friend of mine just yesterday lost his father and I my grandmother this past fall. It's a part of life that rarely gets easier. I wish you comfort during this time.

I also wanted to say that this thread...I just went through all 32 pages of it...might be the most fun thread I've seen on this forum. Your work is simply phenomenal!

If you'd like something to take your mind off of life, or when you get back to doing this, I am interviewing for a head coaching position at my high school, and this is our vintage logo. I'd like to implement a complete logo/uniform change, going from black/yellow-gold/white to black/yellow-gold/grey. Feel free to try to make this outdated logo sleek, aggressive, and fun!