Lee.

The NHL could do worse than bringing in old WCW/WWE guys to help out in the front office.

Tully Blanchard to do Shanahan's job, especially. "For this elbow to the head, as well as the fact that he has been suspended several times for similar offenses, Matt Cooke will be placed into THE TREE OF WOE until he submits. Plus five games."

Glendale City Council votes to kick in $45M to help renovate the Jobing.com Arena to a retractable-roof facility, change name of arena to "World's Largest Hooters."

It is my firm belief that hockey organists should dress like the Phantom of the Opera as much as possible, and break into "Chest Fever" at least three times a period.

I am concerned...

And Winnipeg's coming in on Saturday. Doesn't look good for a sellout.

This covered yet?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-11-03/boise-state-president-approval-big-east-move/51064708/1

AND. Let's not forget this AND.

AND

It was "wear a costume, get in free" night.

Not to toot my hometown's horn, but the last arena to be built within an area's financial means was MTS Centre. That seems to have turned out just fine.

The Rangers and Cowboys notwithstanding, there's a basketball lockout. The Stars should be doing everything they can to jump on this and get people into the arena, especially when they're off to a strong start like this.

Hell, I'd even use something along the lines of "At least one #9 will have his number retired in Dallas" or something, just to piss off the Cowboys and Romo.

Maybe they did like they do for wrestling shows, and pack one side of the house and fill in the other as time goes on.

Westgate is described as a super-regional^[1] destination for shopping, entertainment, commercial office and luxury residential.

hahaha

Phase II will add an estimated 436,000-square-foot (40,500 m²) retail destination center and 105,000 square feet (9,800 m²) of "neighborhood retail" to be integrated into a 440-unit residential district.^[5].

The development of future phases will be contingent upon market demand and is yet to be scheduled, although estimated completion dates range from 2010^[6] to 2015 at a potential total cost of $1 billion.^[7]

hahahahaha this is awesome

No idea how they're going to accomplish all this if Mitch and Murray don't start handing over some of those Glengarry leads.

And everyone can meet up at the Jimmy Buffett restaurant after the game!

Westgate is a nice area to go to if you are wanting to get away on a Saturday night, of course there is Tempe/Mill and Downtown Phoenix, but it is a good place to go to. Not defending the team, but the area is a booming place on the weekends.

My issue with it remains that it's what, 40 miles from downtown? Hilariously underserved by public transportation? It's a Party Zone in the middle of nowhere, and it encourages people who go there to drive home pissed to the gills. It's a strip mall and an enabler all in one.

Yeah but there's a Clarion Inn right there for the visiting teams to stay in.

Vancouver would be a much better candidate for a Major League baseball team. It's the biggest hotbed of baseball in the country and has been for a while now. However with the money they just spent on the Olympics and the renovations to BC Place, there's no way a MLB calibre ballpark will be built in the area, unless it is 100% financed by the private sector, and I just can't see that happening.

This isn't a baseball town. A lot of players come from here, but for the most part, this town just doesn't give a care about anything.

The A-ball Canadians are supported well, but that's 36 games a year at $12 a head, in a great old-timey ballpark that sells 24-inch hotdogs.

We just opened a half-billion dollar, renovated BC Place, and were people talking about the Lions victory, or the architecture or the uniqueness of the stadium itself? No, they bitched and moaned about waiting too long for beer. They also complained because the roof was open and it was chilly. Well it's opening night, dumbass, bring a sweater, you're 40. Figure it out.

Yeah. The few that care about baseball will gladly make the trip to Seattle for MLB games.

Could the Seattle engineers send their plans and budgets over to Quebec City? $150 million is a lot cheaper than the expected $400+ million over in QC.

I suspect Seattle has some bare bonesing going on in the design.

After overruns, it'll probably be more in the 200-225M range.

Canada hasn't really been hit nearly as hard during the deprecession as the US, nor do they need to build cathedrals to hockey like Quebec does. Anything built in Seattle will also be aided (?) by non-union labor, and underbidding by contractors to just get work. QC is spending that kind of money because they're out of joint with Winnipeg getting a team back first.

Also, the Quebecois are arrogant :censored:ers

I'm not averse to melted cheese with fries, but I can't see it occurring to me to order them in the near future. I guess I don't really like fries all that much.

Anyway, I guess I misunderstood Blueland Believer's "10 minutes" thing. I didn't realize he was talking about the city council thing, because I thought 15 minutes was the meme on that one. I thought he thought someone called the office to buy the Thrashers ten minutes after the True North sale closed. Though I guess there were some groups that wanted to keep the Thrashers local despite not actually having money to buy the team. I guess they figured it hadn't stopped this league before.

yes there were. but ive said my statements before and nobody listens to me (because they probably dont want to, im done trying to explain the situation to yall)

Please.

Fries and Gravy are more Canadian than anything, I think. I tried ordering it once in the states and got fries with sausage gravy all over them.

Poutine is Fries and gravy and cheese curds, but some places like to kick it up some. I'm barbecuing profusely overnight, and will likely make some with a :censored:ton of pulled pork or brisket on it.

This is why I'm fat.

As much as I may not care for Les Quebecois, fries with gravy is delicious. Brown gravy, none of that weird white stuff you Merkins love so much.

Quebecor, from what I can glean, is basically ponying up naming rights money. They're expecting the three levels of government to pay for the arena itself, and if the Feds aren't going to cough up any dough (since the precedent for that came from the MTS Centre), and the province and citry can't exactly afford a quarter-million Canbucks each, then it's awfully dicey.

Someone from there might be able to give a better viewpoint (Pollux? GeorgesL?) but that's my full understanding of the situation.

By process of elimination, I think we can tell where this is all going to lead to:

1. Seattle doesn't have a hockey-friendly arena, nor is there the public nor political will to build one, so they're out.

2. Quebec is currently railing against the government's attempted strongarming of a financing bill to build their new hockey cathedral, so that $450M pipedream is out, tabernacle.

3. Houston is a potential, but if the owner of the arena isn't interested in NHL hockey, well, that's out.

4. Kansas City doesn't seem to give a rat's, so they're out.

5. Hamilton is out of the equation until Jim Balsillie can invent a mobile operating system to complete with iOS and Android, so they're out.

So as far as I see it, this leaves four potential landing spots for the Coyotes

1. Phoenix, because maybe, MAYBE, MAYBE with strong local ownership and some kind of stability, they can make it sorta kinda work in their own special way.

2. Portland, because they have an NHL-ready arena, a decent support in place for the Winterhawks, and a built-in rivalry with Vancouver and San Jose.

3. Atlantis, because hey, as long as we're dreaming.

4. The moon, because more people have been there than have been to Jobing.com Arena.

it, blow the whole thing up. Four divisions, period.

West: Vancouver, San Jose, LA, Anaheim, Phoenix (Seattle), Edmonton, Calgary, Colorado

Midwest: Winnipeg, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, St Louis, Dallas, Nashville

Central: Columbus, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Boston, Buffalo, Pittsburgh

East: New York, Long Island, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Miami

Division winners get automatic 1-4 seeds, remaining top 12 teams make it in. DONE.

Made any?

CAPITALISM!!!

Since some of you monkeys are bored as , and since no one likes pointless realignment posts crapping up real threads, I've created this thread specifically for you to post your pointless, unrealistic, and borderline asinine realignment ideas here.

Anyone from this point on who posts anything realignment-related in a real thread from hereon in deserves every amount of crap the rest of the community decides to heap upon them.

Go hog wild.

K, boys, what's ESPN using for the team names?

danke.

Jesus Christ, DP, do you own one of each, or what?

Nah. My collection consists of four: one of each of the Raiders rings, plus a 49'ers one from SB XXIII. There are some I'd like, but have thus far been unable to find in good enough condition to warrant the expense.

And here I had visions of you hanging outside the arenas and stadiums on ring presentation day, waiting for the lowest-paid guy on the team to exit, and you making one hell of a lowball offer.

Jesus Christ, DP, do you own one of each, or what?