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  1. 40 minutes ago, Gothamite said:


    Why on earth should we think context does not matter?

     

    Teams that get ahead of a problematic identity, willingly changing it before they are forced to, they can sometimes salvage a name by rebranding and redefining it.  But Washington, who have spent the last half-century doubling down, tripling down, litigating, and then only changing when forced to and under extreme duress, they’ve lost any benefit of the doubt.

     

    Plus there is a marked difference between a team taking its existing name and redefining it to remove the racist context and a team adopting a name new to them that has also historically carried that content.

     

    For those two reasons, ”Washington Warriors” would be seen for precisely what it would be, a wink-and-nod to Native identity by a team that didn’t really want to give up theirs. 

    They were pushed into doing it, but the fact remains they did it (while the KC Chiefs lay low without any outcry).    Again, it goes back to how they rebrand it.   They could use a different symbol altogether.     The Pentagon is full of warriors, it's not unique to Natives.   Dozens of examples here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrior

     

    If Warrior has the historical context you claim, then GS should not be allowed to use it, voluntary rebranding or not.

     

    Whatever.   Don't give me Red Wolves which no one associates with DC.   

     

     

  2. 10 hours ago, Gothamite said:


    It would be more insulting as if they used “warriors” pretending that it never had any native connotations in our country. 
     

    taking that name off the table is the right call. 

    Pretending?  Like Golden State does?     They were able to rebrand the name, but that point keeps getting ignored because of Washington's long history with the word that shall not be named.  Saying it would be different for Washington if it were done years earlier makes no sense.

  3. 26 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

    WFT using Warriors would be terrible, because it just seems like a back door way to go back to the “old ways.” Unlike GSW, they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.

     

    As Golden State proved,  there are ways to use it that wouldn't be a "back door."    They are already using a "W" logo. which could mean either "Washington" or "Warriors."    If one were to look for "back doors, " the burgundy color may also be problematic since it goes back to the color of the last mascot.    Warriors is far better than Red Wolves which is another reach just to use the "R."   

  4. 3 hours ago, DNAsports said:

    Even though we knew this a while ago, Washington has formally announced that its new name with not include Native American imagery

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    Golden State Warriors have never used any native iconography.   For Washington to assume warriors must equate only to a reference to Native Americans is more insulting.  Don't believe me?  Ask these guys

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  5. On 6/29/2021 at 12:10 AM, _DietDrPepper_ said:

    Because purple is much more unique and less frequently seen color in sports, especially the NFL, where the Vikings were the only team in the league who had purple in their color scheme for 40 years.

    The Ravens also not only share purple, but also a shade of gold, plus black which is found more in Minnesota’s identity now then ever, even if it’s not a lot. That means even the small distinctions matter more so then just any other team that wears purple. 

    The Ravens have had a purple jersey since day one in 1996.    A different shade of purple helmet  is a bridge too far?   Whatever monopoly some think Minnesota has on purple is long gone.

  6. I don't see why the league which has 5 teams in white helmets, 4 teams in black helmets is fine, but a second team in purple isn't.    Baltimore could use a different shade of purple, just as the 49ers and Saints don't use the same gold, for example.   That said, I'd rather they come up with a less cartoonish bird without the "B" , which  is already used on their pants, then worry about another color.

  7. On 5/26/2021 at 6:45 AM, SCalderwood said:

     

     

    I've lived in the Baltimore area on-and-off for over 25 years, and while I know not everyone would like that cap, there is a large segment of the population here that would absolutely love it.  If you're from Baltimore, you've got to know the type of people I'm talking about.  The "Baltimorons," if you will.

    Not this one.  Edgar Allen Poe?  No idea what's on the right side, but it can't be good.  You can see them all if you have a subscription to the Athletic.  https://theathletic.com/2612864/2021/05/26/a-memorial-for-the-now-legendary-new-era-local-market-caps-gone-too-soon/
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  8. 38 minutes ago, SCalderwood said:

     

     

    I would never buy any of those, and I can't speak for every city/state, but I can think of a lot of people in Maryland who would probably love that Orioles cap.  The same type who went out and bought all the Orioles gear with all the Maryland flag designs on it.  There's more people out there than you might think, who would actually think that cap is "straight fire" (at least in Maryland).  They see the Oriole bird, the crab, the 410, and they're convinced they need it.  If there is a Maryland flag patch somewhere on there, that would probably help it sell even better.

    Well, I'm from MD and that cap is garbage.  BTW,  MLB, 13 stars with 1776 is more appropriate for a Philly cap than for a city that didn't exist for another 14 years.

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    Cleveland Indians owner Paul Dolan said Thursday on a Zoom call with the Akron Roundtable that the team might have to delay implementing a new nickname for 2022.

    The organization will decide by the middle of the 2021 season whether they will go ahead with the name change in 2022, or whether they will delay it until the 2023 season.

    “The timeline remains the same,” Dolan said, “Just to be clear, we said, ‘No sooner than 2022.’ Our target is still 2022, but it is a difficult process. Trying to find a name that works, that we can clear, and ultimately in a tight time frame.

    https://www.outkick.com/indians-owner-dolan-says-team-might-not-change-team-name-till-after-2022-season

  10. 7 minutes ago, dont care said:

    Another reason why fanatics monopoly is the worst thing to happen to sports merchandizing 

    I had to order mine through shop.nhl which is run by fanatics, but fanatics' own website never listed it.    Adidas and/or NHL must not have anticipated the demand, and it appears the release is staggered.
     

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    Finally, on Sunday, December 6, the embargo will lift and other retailers will be able to sell its Capitals’ Reverse Retro stock too. One of the stores, Dick’s Sporting Goods, will have blank Capitals’ authentic jerseys and authentic jerseys of Alex Ovechkin available for sale online in all sizes. This might be the best way for Capitals fans from out of town to land a Reverse Retro sweater.

    https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/12/02/capitals-reverse-retro-jerseys-sold-out-online-in-record-time-on-tuesday-here-are-the-best-places-to-buy-moving-forward/

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    “Supplies of the jerseys were very limited and sold out quickly,” RMNB’s contact at Fanatics said. “The Washington Capitals’ Screaming Eagle design, in particular, sold very well. The Capitals sold through their inventory much quicker than any other team.”

    While many assumed the NHL Shop would restock its jersey supply at some point later, RMNB is told there’s “little chance of any additional inventory created for the Adidas jerseys.”

    https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/12/02/capitals-reverse-retro-jerseys-sold-out-online-in-record-time-on-tuesday-here-are-the-best-places-to-buy-moving-forward/

  12. On 11/17/2020 at 1:32 PM, DC in Da House w/o a Doubt said:


    Here’s a better idea of how the Caps RR will look on the ice. 
     

    I grew up with the screaming eagle, so I’m eating all of this up. Big fan of this look. By no means was this an original idea, I’m sure tons of people have tried re-coloring their 90’s look, but I still have to give them credit on the execution, it looks good. Kudos for keeping the beak and talon as gold. I always struggled as whether to color those white or blue, neither looked good 

    When I checked adidas.com very early this morning, half of the sizes were already sold out, and it's now out completely.  I scored my Ovechkin jersey on shop.nhl.com a few hours later and it's also sold out.   

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