BeerGuyJordan
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3 hours ago, MBurmy said:
Wondering who #31 will be for the AHL (if they even do expand?)
The AHL and Blues have confirmed that there will be no expansion, this upcoming season. The Blues will continue to send the Wolves players, though I assume they'll work out a deal with one or two other teams, as well.
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It's official, the Wolves are the new Vegas affiliate.
http://theahl.com/wolves-golden-knights-announce-partnership
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The latest info in the sad saga that is Phoenix metro hockey. I particularly love this line:
"Everything you never really wanted to know about the Coyotes arena drama, but sometimes ask anyway. "
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1 hour ago, the admiral said:
Doesn't the Japanese hatred of Koreans go back further? Having Korean blood makes you an untouchable.
I don't think Korean evolved from Chinese, though. Korean isn't related to anything. Maybe Chinese characters were the basis for their writing system, but they're not related.
When you learn the korean language, tou are essentially learning one ("True" or "pure" Korean) and two halves (borrowed words, primarily english, and Sino-Korean" which is essentially a redneck Chinese). They are all interchangeable, and part of the whole Korean language.
The closest living language to spoken Korean (Hanguk Mal) is the Chinese family, for this reason.
The written Korean language (Hangul) is actually farther removed, from chinese. Hangul is an alphablet. While the majority of asiatic languages are word characters, Hangul characters are actually a syllable, comprised of letters.
Previous Japanese isolationism didn't single those from Gor-yo (modern Koreans) more than anyone else, really.
Source: I studied Korean at the Defense Language Institute and lived there, twice. It sparked my interest in amateur philology.
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The SPHL's Columbus Cottonmouths suspending operations, keeping the league at 10 teams, bext season.
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/sports/other-sports/columbus-cottonmouths
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That is some Charlotte Bobcats logic, there. The days of names coming from an owner or benefactor are long gone.
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10 hours ago, Sodboy13 said:
Just rename the NHL club "Nashville Admirals." The city's already got Commodores.
The nickname (Commodores) is one that the school's namesake, Cornelius Vanderbilt, had, as a shipping magnate. Nashville has no significant military maritime history, of its own. Couple that with the fact that UT may still be more popular, in Nashville, and Admirals makes zero sense.
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I'm fine with sticking to Admirals, for Norfolk. If they have to change, the only suitable alternative would be Destroyers.
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I have to imagine this will result in Cincinnati going to Columbus.
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29 minutes ago, Cosmic said:
So glad we don't have to worry about any of this mess in Buffalo/Rochester. Oh, wait...
"The Sabres say they want to keep the Amerks in Rochester, but other options are available for the American Hockey League team. Albany is losing its team, and Buffalo is even an option. The San Jose Sharks share their city with their minor-league club. The Sabres fired a warning shot last year by moving an NHL preseason game from Rochester to Penn State University."
Are you f
ing kidding me?
Granted, Rochester came in 17th, in attendance, but they averaged over 5,300, a game. Those are not numbers where you start considering moving an affiliate that is only one go
mn hour away. Especially the second oldest franchise in the whole f ing league!
And then you talk about Albany. Albany?!?!?!?! In 24 years of AHL hockey, they averaged higher than this past Rochester season twice. Their overall average annual attendance is well under 4000. JTFC, did you bastards do any research?
This is idiocy.
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On 4/14/2017 at 8:02 PM, Solaris said:
Also, you must not know much about China and South Korea or you would know they have some serious historical issues with each other.
As someone who lived there, and speaks the language, not really. Most South Koreans are pretty ambivalent towards China. They hate Japan, collectively, way more.
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The SPHL's Birmingham Bulls arena lease was recently approved.
I know a lot of people expected the wheels to fall off this league, awhile back, but I'm kind of impressed with their recent growth and stability.
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Nothing major, but the Missouri Mavericks are rebranding as the Kansas City Mavericks, next season.
http://www.echl.com/missouri-mavericks-become-kansas-city-mavericks-2017-18
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I'll say what I've been saying for years. With proper ownership, and a little winning, any metro area of 2 million or more, in the US could work, for the NHL. Some places are going to be more of a fight. Some places can sustain bad, mismanaged teams, but "non-traditional" markets NEED to be well managed, if they want a chance.
The Coyotes' problem is two-fold. Their team is poorly managed, which would make it a struggle anywhere in the metro area. Take a struggling team, put them on the outskirts of town, and you're compounding your problem.
Phoenix is an area that could have worked, but it hasn't. It still could work, but that's incredibly unlikely.
I want to see the Coyotes succeed, for three reasons. I live in Tucson, where their affiliate is. I am dating a die-hard 'yotes fan, and their continued existence allows me to go see my team once or twice, a year, without turning it into a big trip. Objectively, though, it's probably time to pull up stakes and move.
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8 minutes ago, Still MIGHTY said:
Ryan Kesler one-punching Jeff Carter... I like.
Jared Boll doing whatever it is he does... I don't. He didn't even fight in that fight-filled Ducks/Kings game. And if Jared Boll doesn't get in a fight in a game, I don't know what his purpose in the Ducks' or any line-up is. Even when he does fight, I don't know why he's in the Ducks line-up.
I'm glad true enforcers are going the way of the buffalo. I prefer guys like Chara or Burns. On the rare occasion they do drop gloves, it's usually pretty justifiable.
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I don't like fighting, for fighting's sake, and the league needs to minimize it.
However, when one of my team's tough guys goes after a player who pulled a really dirty stunt the refs missed...something primal awakens in me, and I'm cheering with the rest.
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On 2/24/2017 at 3:56 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Sir, I have no doubt you aren't a hockey fan, but I question your "business guy" bonafides if you still think the Coyotes would impact thousands of jobs.
On 2/24/2017 at 6:05 PM, HedleyLamarr said:Yeah, don't think there's 2000+ employees involved, but between the full-time and seasonal employees, that figure is possibly north of 1000. The number of employees we had with the Thrashers was over 1200.
I think it's safe to assume he's not only referring to employees. My girlfriend and I travel up for occasional Coyotes games, from the Tucson area. We usually grab a bite to eat somewhere close, often at Westgate. After the game, we go see a movie at the AMC, right there, about half the time. This is extra revenue that would be "impacted" if the team left, since hockey is the only reason we ever go to Glendale.
That's just the Phoenix area. All the Roadrunners' impact could be part of his statement as well.
I'm not saying that the Phoenix area, and Arizona, as a whole are better off, fiscally, because of the Coyotes, but Worsley's statement holds up. Thousands of jobs (as in, at least 2,000) would be affected, to some degree, if the team leaves Arizona.
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3 hours ago, rvrdgsfn said:
Alaska Aces may be done after this season
http://www.ktva.com/alaska-aces-ownership-considering-ceasing-operations-727/
Can't say I'm surprised, especially with the loss of the Cali teams. The travel line of their budget has got to be huge. I'll be sad to see them go, if true. Proba ly the third best executed identity in the ECHL, behind Toledo and Orlando.
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1 hour ago, Bucfan56 said:
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It's "Lets put a second team in Phoenix!" level bad.
Whoah, now...let's not be hasty.
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2 minutes ago, Marcos Flamengo said:
We don't know if the NHL goes south to the border, in this case, Mexico City?. This would be a good or a bad idea?.
At the risk of coming across as rude: I can't tell if you're being inflammatory and ridiculous on purpose or not.
If not: No, the NHL south of the US border is not a good idea. The MLB is the only league that should even consider Mexico City, and even that scenario would be a convoluted mess.
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13 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said:
Seattle doesn't have any long-term area prospects.
Houston's arena is controlled by a NBA team that kicked the AHL out. What hope does the NHL have?
Hamilton/Toronto SW would have to pony up $1 billion just for the rights fees alone. Not happening.
A few notes from the rest of my post, that, essentially, cover your points.
First, I'm not referring to all of these being "move-in ready." I'm saying that these are the only six cities the NHL should even be willing to consider proposals from.
"Obviously, varying degrees of strength and likelihood. Hamilton is a pipe dream..."
As in, "no way Toronto and Buffalo let it happen." I thought that was implied.
Regarding Houston:
"The arena situation makes it a non-discussion, for now..."
I'm not spelling out every detail, since most of us here are relatively versed in the ups and downs of hockey business. I figured anyone worth having this conversation with is already aware of the Houston arena specifics.
And as for Seattle:
"Others here have covered Quebec, Portland and Seattle pretty well."
Seattle needing a new arena has been referenced at least a few dozen times, in this thread. Again, didn't think I had to spell that one out for you. I've been here long enough that I would hope to have a decent idea of what I'm talking about.
Tl;dr version: I'm saying that no matter who comes forward, or what city they're pushing for; no matter how deep their pockets, or nice their arena, the NHL should give an automatic no to anyone not from one of those six cities.
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1 hour ago, Sodboy13 said:
1. Bill Wirtz already killed Milwaukee to spite Lloyd Pettit 30 years ago.
I'm well aware. Hence why I said the 'Hawks won't let it go, if they can avoid it. Still, Vegas proves that money talks. The rest of the owners can make it happen, without Chicago's ok. Milwaukee is far enough away that they can't actually claim territorial encroachment.
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I really don't care about the Coyotes, themselves. As a Roadrunners STH and a Preds fan from Arizona, however, I kind of need the management to pull their heads out of their five-holes and figure out a way to get this team in the black, without leaving Phoenix metro.
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As I see it, based on the numbers, there really are only six markets that should even be in the discussion, regarding relocation or expansion: Seattle, Portland, Milwaukee, Houston, Quebec and Hamilton/Toronto SW.
Obviously, varying degrees of strength and likelihood. Hamilton is a pipe dream, but the numbers indicate the fans are there, is all I'm saying. TOR/HAM/BUF would still easily put up better numbers than NYR/NYI/NJD.
Milwaukee is, essentially, already a three sport city, and Chicago isn't likely to let that part of their "market" go quietly. Still, if Seattle doesn't pan out, someone willing to pony up the cash could grab the League's attention, once the Bucks' new arena is done.
I would love to see Houston happen, and the city supported the hell out of the AHL Aeros. The arena situation makes it a non-discussion, for now, and I'd rather see the League a little more stable, first.
Others here have covered Quebec, Portland and Seattle pretty well.
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I'm honestly a little surprised they didn't have it in Vegas. Not that I think they should, but it seems like the NHL thing to do.
Regarding Buffalo, are they even trying to host the ASG? I haven't been looking closely, but I can't recall anything about them trying to get it.