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BeerGuyJordan

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  1. You mean the PWHPA players, who were actually the smaller pool, when compared to the PHF ones. And they can push all they want. At the end of the day, business decisions are a league decision. They have the money, and it's their money on the line. The buck stops there. Players don't always know what's best for the league or the sport, just their portion, which is significant but hardly the whole. If this is the best this leadership can do, honestly the best, how is it in any way so far superior to the PHF?
  2. They've announced they're expanding it to all three games this weekend. As grateful as I am for even having hockey in Tucson, I am so disappointed with the Roadrunners lack of fun specialty jerseys, especially when I see the Firebirds killing it.
  3. The Pride, Whitecaps, Riveters, and Force died to make way for these atrocities. I really want to root for the PWHL, and hoped when they killed the PHF that it was to make way for a better vision for the women's game. It feels like this league is one step forward, two steps back for women's hockey. If the PWHL wants to tout itself as a professional, top-tier product, it should really start acting like it.
  4. Because they appear to be trying to out bad business the NHL, at this point?
  5. Unless I'm mistaken, it's just pitches that'd move away from human calls. They'd still have humans to do the rest.
  6. They're my wife's team. After all the times I've seen them get mercilessly shellacked, I'm fine with it. Especially when it's Chicago on the receiving end. They showed no mercy to anyone during their dominance in the early to mid 10's.
  7. The one caveat to that stance I would offer is the home viewing. Their video quality the last season on ESPN+ was better than most AHL teams, and better that what the Coyotes have since Bally fell through and you have to watch them on Laff. Not sure how many other NHL teams are in that boat. Them taking advantage of Arizona's arena mess and having their final there last season was inspired. They got access to NHL quality media infrastructure at an affordable price for their first nationally televised game. Don't get me wrong, I really want this league to work, I just can't understand paying what they did to not take advantage of what they could. It's bad business, and setting my personal attachments aside doesn't instill confidence in their ability to not run this sport's umpteenth league into the ground.
  8. I've been following since day one. The PHF was far from perfect, and had some really questionable moves: the Rivs playing in a mall, the Force being homeless their first season, communication between league management and the teams, etc. That said, there are more than a couple big successes in their wins column. Their ESPN+ deal was a huge plus. And provided the first reliably watchable seasons yet for thise not able to get to games. Fan engagement was great, but that's not something the league itself should get credit for, as the teams were doing the heavy lifting. They were making real headway in sponsorship and salary, and their inroads with Euro and Asian players could have been a major asset to the PWHL. Their identities were beloved by the fanbases in most of their markets. The Rivs were just great. The Whitecaps weren't the best, but they had more than 20 years of tradition and brand recognition. Killing them feels idiotic. I wasn't a huge fan of the Pride identity, but the locals seemed to love it. The Six were a bad idea executed well, and the Force were serviceable, but I don't have strong feelings about letting them go. ESPN was reportedly happy with their championship telecast numbers and the rumor was they had agreed to air a best of three series next season. There are a lot of areas where the new league is zero sum compared to the old, but there are a lot of foundations already laid they could have built on as well. Womens sports have a hard enough time gaining traction. The PWHL wants to kill the PHF so badly that they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. The sport, its players, and the fans deserve better. Salient point, but as I understand it, some level of discussion had been ongoing ever since the split and they always fell apart. Carey and the rest deserve the vitriol they are getting for blindsided everyone with the execution. Not explaining the negotiations every step of the way and planning on actually playing next season isn't where I'm upset.
  9. Fantastic design! I'd hate to see them pare Peyote down to just the head as a full-time look, but either of these as an alternate would be a solid move.
  10. Fun concept. Maybe it's because I'm in phone, but your purple looks a little more blue than the shade they teased. I don't think it'd look bad with the one they released, but it might lose a tad of the cohesiveness.
  11. It's a shame they didn't already own the rights to a name in Montreal that already met that brief, and had a solid logo that tied into French-Canadian heritage.
  12. Let's be clear, summers here suck too. Mid October to mid May are great, but June through August are brutal.
  13. I don't think they're deliberately trying to run it into the ground. I think just so focused on doing it their way that they don't care about making bad decisions, so long as they're different decisions than the PHF. They bought that league, all of it's assets, connections, identities, and contracts. In business, when you buy a more established brand, it's usually to use its successes. The PWHL bought the PHF so they could make sure it was killed in its entirety. Which makes killing the PHF all the more infuriating. They were making real strides for the women's game. We're there bad decisions? Yes, but they'd spent 8 years learning and building. Throwing out the baby with the bath water just so your side could win killed a lot of trust and goodwill right out of the gate. Yep. This league will have fewer players who are being paid less than last season in the PHF, all while increasing the player pool by about 75%. They hung players out to dry. Killed brands with built-in fanbases for ego rather than make the business decision to build on them. All the branding info so far has been inferior to what came before. I tried to give them the benefit of doubt initially, but every time I turn around they're making bad decisions.
  14. Yeah, I get that. When I made it, the statement was more of a "you're embracing sports betting to a large degree, let's be clear where your lines are as to how much you've embraced them. What is severe enough to warrant half a season, but not so bad to boot the kid entirely?" As far as I'm aware, there's been no real attempt to make this explicitly clear. And "having deals" feels like a gross undercharacterization of the deluge of sports betting ads fans are hit with while watching games, at least here in the states.
  15. Given how much sports betting is being shoved down our throats, and how much the league benefits from it, I feel like we need them to explain what he did to avoid looking like hypocrites.
  16. The last rumor I heard was them closing in on an agreement with the Bridgeport Islanders to play there. Those were two great identities. To be fair, other than Toronto, I thought the PHF's team identitioes were all decent or better. Montreal had a great logo and I liked their jerseys. The most recent Boston logo would have been good if they'd just fixed the centering. Last season's jerseys were the best they had. Connecticut was a fun branding that had some great wave features on their sets. Buffalo's logos could have used a glow up, but their uniforms were sharp. I want this to succeed, as a supporter of the NWHL/PHF from day one. This new league's insistence on "winning" and destroying all traces of their former competitor has long since crossed the line into bad business territory. As a fan. The PWHL so far has been a big step back for the game and its fans. As a Rivs fan, I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully get past abandoning that identity.
  17. For the bulk of the year it's usually in the 7 to 12 degree Farenheit difference range, if both have similar weather. Tucson is currently 10 degrees cooler. You do see more monsoon activity in Tucson, and on those days the difference can get close to 20 sometimes. That's typically only about 3 months (July, Aug, Sep). It's primarily because Tucson is about 1,600 feet higher in elevation.
  18. It warms my heart to know that Admiral's contempt for sun belt markets continues. It's good to be back. I agree with him that the League had a willingness in the 90's to let any bozo with half a plan and an unvetted bank statement buy a team. I also agree that it led to messes like Arizona and Atlanta, and for a time (and to varying degrees) Carolina, Florida, and Nashville. I disagree that it is a flaw in the markets themselves. Las Vegas is a shining example that making sure you get the right ownership and a good product matter more than the market. If a market doesn't already have a culture for a sport, you have to create it. Just throwing a team down like the NHL used to do is bad business. The Knights and Kraken expansion terms were a formula for success. If you put the past 20 years of team and ownership history from Toronto in any market south of DC, they'd be bleeding money. Back to the greater point, pulling out of Winnipeg at this point would be dumb. More than a third of the league's attendance is significantly down. Is anyone saying they need to pull stakes in San Jose, whose attendance hit a lower point than even Winnipeg? How about Calgary or Washington? Their attendance is down as well. Is there a problem right now? Yes, obviously. It isn't the Winnipeg metro's size. Admiral's underlying point there is spot on.
  19. Salient points, but let's not pretend that the Dbacks didn't slide backwards into the post season on a four game losing streak. The battle for the final WC spot started to feel like it was coming down to a measure of how much the teams derailed in the 11th hour. Arizona came into the playoffs pretty cold. I'm a fan, but my hopes were pretty low. I thought they had the pieces to get by Mikwaukee if they could find their footing, I wouldn't have been willing to put money on them getting past LA, and I never seriously considered them making the World Series. I've been happy to be wrong, and this is why we play the games.
  20. Strongly disagree, this is why we play the games. I love an upset. The whole thing. I'm in Tucson and we hate going to Phoenix because of the heat. Bet you he won't If a barely mediocre team is good enough to sweep two division winners and the team that beat the third one... well, you aren't making the point you think you are. Jtfc, you griped about the pitching clock too, didn't you.
  21. As someone who used to live in Clarksville, I could really see the locals getting behind this identity. Great work!
  22. If we can tell what the broad strokes of the playoff picture will look like by late November then no, the season doesn't "really start until December." I acknowledged that the wheels could fall off. I never said you didn't make some salient points in that take. Say it's a long season, say there's plenty of time for them to run out of gas, or even that you don't think their play is sustainable. Saying that nothing in Oct or Nov matters much is a bad take.
  23. Are Oct and Nov a guarantee of success by and in April through June? No, but most years, at the end of November, the media makes a big stinkabout how something like 80% of teams in a playoff spot at American Thanksgiving make the playoffs in the NHL. This is a small sample size, sure, and the wheels could fall off, absolutely. Your overall take is still a bad one.
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