Brian E

6 minutes ago, DTConcepts said:

 

To be entirely fair, the original fisherman did technically use a phantom yoke design.

absolutely, you're right , on the navy it did (true yoke on the white). but it also had the shoulder patches, which filled the space better (and that era's tailoring was such that the shoulders weren't as much of a defined space as reebok and then adidas made them, ya know? 

let me echo the sentiment that the isles RR (if legit) is a massive whiff.

i'm going to reserve full judgment until i see the final product today, but i think they made it worse.

• i don't mind the logo re-color
• i'm okay with the wave being more horizontal slant than the wave because it harkens back to the prototype that kaspar wore in the unveiling photo.
• two big failures here:

1. not having the bottom stripes finish all the way to the hem to make the full bottom orange (like it is in the prediction mock up). 
2. creating a phantom yoke by not having a contrasting color up top and having the wave act as shoulder piping. it's more reebok edge than it should be.

i, too, agree that they could have gone with a teal jersey base here and really had a wow factor. or even just gone with white, which would have looked much, much cleaner.

i'll be happy to change my mind when we see it today. but i have a feeling i won't. 

4 minutes ago, DTConcepts said:

Sorry to double post, but...

 

The Islanders have formally unveiled their 50th Anniversary patch. No Chromaflex as initially predicted, and it looks much better than I was expecting.

the placement makes me wonder: no jersey patches for the isles? wouldn't surprise me, considering lou's affinity for tradition. they do, however, have helmet ads, so who knows.

1 hour ago, Sport said:

 

 

The Reds field of dreams uniforms. Always wanted to see what a batting helmet would look like if they tried to match the pinstripes of the hats. Good effort, but not quite right. 

i think that helmet looks awesome. i think you just have to award the A for effort and overlook some pretty minor quibbles, since they're working in different profiles/materials.

this line in the jets' press release announcing the new black helmet is interesting. seems like they could be going the same route as the eagles: a black alt helmet as a holdover until they do something more fan-friendly next year:

all of these retread jets jokes aside, the jets are within 3-to-4 slight tweaks of a good uniform. it's just that those 3-to-4 elements make the uniform bad (NEW YORK wordmark, triangular striping, the topless helmet logo). yes, the black uni is unnecessary, but it's not like it or any of their uniforms can't be executed well. they just choose not to. i've posted the below image before, and it really shouldn't be this hard to figure it out. insist on the black? throw it in as the middle stripe on the sleeve.

if the jets are going to insist on keeping their "stealth" look a mono-black, then this helmet works better. personally, i always wanted them to pair the black jerseys and pants with green pants with a black stripe and sandwich the look. but i know the players are into that all-black look, so if that's the case, this is better than wearing the green lid with it. 

still hate the shoulder and pants stripes though...

there really isn't a rivalry. now, could there be in years to come? it's possible, because the mets are poised to become the east coast version of the dodgers now that steve cohen owns the team. but outside of the '88 NLCS (and it's really only that one series, because the mets beat the dodgers in 11 of their 12 meetings in that regular season), there's nothing there.

the mets' biggest on-field rivalry vacillates between the NL east team that happens to be good at the same time (the cardinals between '84-'88, the braves between '97-'01, the phillies between '07-'08, the nationals between '15-'16, and now, the braves again) and then there's, of course, the yankees thing, which is really more of an off-the-field thing between fan bases.

7 hours ago, JTernup said:

Within teams Nike seems to have standardized prices but that’s newer as well. Majestic definitely had jerseys with more features costing more than jerseys with fewer features.

 

But across teams the prices do vary seemingly based on things like layers of twill, piping, patches, etc. The fully loaded (player name and number non-custom) authentics vary quite a bit actually.

Yankees Home Judge - $300

Reds Home Moustakas - $320

Rangers Home Seager - $440

Rockies City Blackmon - $475

 

There are a lot of teams in that $350-400 range but I picked out some extremes. There are also so,e bizarrely cheap authentics that I can’t figure out like a Trevor Story Red Sox Authentic priced at $205.

i'll go ahead and play by old man card and remember i got my first authentic (mets snow white russell athletic) MLB jersey for $135.

i just want to punch whoever wrote the copy for that stamos VO. it's  the corniest stuff i've ever heard.

34 minutes ago, Danny the Sheeb said:

Meh.  At least it actually looks something like a Royals jersey.  I still don't see why any of these CC uniforms are worth getting excited about, none of them are really very impressive IMO.

 

 

 

 

...The Beatles reference earns points though.

i think the excitement is two-fold.

1) it's clear the CCs will be something different, whether that ends up being good or bad. in a league where alternate looks are generally just re-colors of home looks, i think fans get pumped up about, "how will they re-imagine my team's identity?"

2) on-field baseball looks lend themselves exceedingly well (i would say probably the best) to merchandising. there are two on-field elements that fans can buy, and it ranges based on how much you want to invest ( $43 for a cap vs. $130 for a jersey, plus the $35 "shirsey").  for my team, when they get their CC look next year, i'm excited about the prospect of working a new-look mets cap into my rotation.

the bad reactions are predictable (some valid, some, IMO, overblown), since it's usually a divestiture from the normal team aesthetic. 

19 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

It'll go on the left sleeve per previous articles. 

14 hours ago, insert name said:

what about teams who already have a patch on the left sleeve?

actually, it's going to switch sides based on the player's handedness to give the advertiser "better visibility." so yeah, you're going to see a whole lot of non-uniform uniforms next year.

i'm super opposed to uni ads, but i'd be lying if i said i enjoyed the NBA or NHL any less. what i don't get is why baseball decided to go this big. all uni ads look like garbage, but comparative to the NBA (the size of which really doesn't bother me that much) it really does looks terrible..

basically going to echo what people said here: the 'stros' CC unis are good. a couple of the elements (sunrise headspoon, pant numbers, and the cap_ are excellent.  i deduct points for the navy pants (mostly because only a handful of players are going to show the socks and a mono-navy with pro-flare pants is going to look drab.

overall: B+ as-is

if they had gone with white pants: A

may i humbly submit that teams that use red should just eliminate the red and have gold and their other primary color for the post-title unis?

the extra gold outline just gets lost as a third color, as the red pulls your eye away. boston did the same thing when they did it. 

Just now, cajunaggie08 said:

Its technically been 60 years since their first game in 1962 so its not that egregious. However, it is confusing as its their 61st year/season. They have mismatched seasons/anniversaries along with franchise years and noting years of being just called the Astros with all of their past patches.

"Honor the past, celebrate the present, embrace the future. This year we celebrate 60 years as a franchise (NOPE). Celebrate with these 60th anniversary (YUP) ballcaps, available now in the Astros Team Store."

it's wild to me that the astros can't tell the difference between an anniversary and an ordinal, so they just use them interchangeably. did anyone bothering counting how many seasons there were between 1962 and 2022? 

some of the dugout jackets for 2022 are visible on MLB shop. noteworthy things, i guess, would be 1) the blue jays' is navy, 2) they're longer, 3) the price is hilarious:

https://www.mlbshop.com/?query=dugout performance full-zip jacket&_ref=p-PDP:m-SEARCH

honestly, the swoosh on the front doesn't really bother me. it speaks to the huge equity nike has as a global lifestyle brand, but the swoosh is basically as ubiquitous on clothing as buttons or a zipper. i lean traditionalist, so i know it should drive me crazy and all that, and i know this is simply my opinion and doesn't speak for anyone else, but it's much ado about nothing for me. i agree though that i'd rather it was rendered in blue or orange. 

4 minutes ago, DarthBrett said:

Makes me wonder if they are going to remove the orange from the neck and placket from their blue alts too for '22?

i was sort of wondering if they're going to ditch the blue home alts. maybe in favor of their eventual city connect uniform? i have no idea if the mets are one of the teams getting them in 2022, but if they are, it might make sense.

they hadn't worn the blue home alts for almost two years before they broke  them out late last summer. maybe they wanted to pop them in there to try and clear out some of the last lingering inventory? 

this might not be an unpopular opinion, but for as long as the black unis are a friday night special (which is fine, IMO), i'd like them to ditch the home blue alt and make changes to the blue road alt. make the lettering and numbers on the road alt orange with a white outline (like the blue home alt is). the grey numbering isn't necessary. so they'd basically have: pins, black alts (friday home), greys, tweaked blue alts (road). and then eventually, their  CC for six games.

15 minutes ago, insert name said:

Black Fridays for the Mets are here to stay.

 

It was quickly pointed out that the replicas shown in the video and website are missing the neck piping. A slight redesign maybe? Seems weird to remove an element that's been on nearly every Mets alternative.

i actually think that's an upgrade. the headspoon, while favored by the mets, seems out of place on the black jerseys. always has, IMO. i wish that while they did that, they had added orange and blue to the blue sleeve piping. maybe it sort of a tri-color sleeve piping to mimic the script. 

6 hours ago, dont care said:

Apples and oranges. Without the deal with the MLB new era would have hardly anything. Tops has other products they can market.

yeah to add to that, i think new era actually has a very strong lifestyle brand. like, wearing a 5950 means something to a bunch of different demographics. not that i'm sure if they switched to fanatics and that's the only way you could get your favorite team's fitted cap that people wouldn't just buy the fanatics version. but i do think MLB and new era's relationship is a symbiotic one.

Just now, bosrs1 said:

 

When people are saying "mesh" are they like the current New Era mesh hats (the more breathable version of the current ST/BP caps) or are we talking full on trucker cap mesh? 

no, not diamond era (or hex era or whatever they're calling it nowadays). we're talking poly blend front two panels, trucker mesh for the back four.

On 8/20/2021 at 1:20 PM, Anubis2051 said:

Anyone have a link to the 2022 ST hat leak?

it was removed from youtube. uni watch originally ran the link as part of its ticker.

32 minutes ago, Chromatic said:

If the ads go on the retail jerseys I'm never purchasing another one.

that's cool. NBA jerseys can be purchased with or without. and guess what? some people actually want the ad patch bc it adds to the authenticity. 

i, too, would rather buy a retail jersey without an ad patch on it. but surprisingly, some people want them, hard as that may be to believe.

also, there's new BP/ST and dugout gear coming. i don't remember if anyone saw the new era leaks on the buyer presentation youtube video from a few months back, but some of it was in there. ST/BP caps are mesh-backed.