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6 hours ago, Pyromania1983 said:

Apparently based off of the famous Reading Terminal market. Very cool local ties.

We need to replace Chinatown with a new arena a mile or so away from our current arena. Here to make the case are these Asians.

The best move would have been changing nothing, but going back to green would have been better than striping that allegedly honors the Colorado Rockies. 

4 hours ago, Tore said:

Was just about to post it! A tribute to basketball and James Naismith. 

"We really wanted to pay tribute to basketball with [this basketball uniform]. We thought about it, and realized on the whole, basketball is pretty great and we're in favor of it." 

1 hour ago, VikWings said:

Then Lou leaves and the Devils inexplicably removed their hem stripes for no reason about 10 years after the fact. They were trashed for it and surprisingly haven't gone back yet.

I'm not surprised. I think they're trying to separate the Hughes/Hischier era from the old Lamoriello Devils. On some level, it makes sense: the Devils ran on an idiosyncratic organizational philosophy that would be borderline toxic today (micromanaging players' grooming and personal time, hostility to media, strict and narrow hierarchy, acrimonious contract negotiations) and everyone hated the neutral zone trap for making hockey unwatchable for the better part of ten years. 

But then again, they haven't really rebranded the Devils, have they? They didn't switch to a black sweater, they didn't steal my childhood idea of a devil holding a pitchfork in one hand and a hockey stick in the other, they just took a classic uniform and changed parts to make it worse. You're right: it's exactly the design the Devils would have come up with in 2007 if they had been run by an idiot. It's an effort to separate the team from what it once was, a weird little fiefdom holed up in the Meadowlands parking lot demanding not to be bothered, but it's not even a good effort. However, the Devils have as good a shot as anyone of coming out of the East this year, so we'll probably be stuck with it for a while longer.

1 hour ago, Sport said:

For my money those are the worst uniforms in NFL history. There isn't a single good decision anywhere in that steaming pile. 

It's a photo finish between the alarm clock Bucs and the Commanders, and someone should burn that photo.

HE'S BLOCKING HIS OWN LINEMAN WHO EVEN DOES THIS

17 minutes ago, BBTV said:

ironically, they wore WAH the majority of the time.  White was basically their home jersey.  They wore white 6 of 8 home games in '95, and all 8 games in '96.

There's no more powerful nostalgia than for that which never really was

5 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

 the creamsicles were associated with FAILURE.

On 10/3/2023 at 4:52 PM, BBTV said:

That one wasn't any good either.

When they rolled out that logo, they referred to wrestlers as "WCW Stars" (as opposed to WWF Superstars) and were putting out polls as to whether the new Saturday show should be called "Saturday Night Hotbox." But sure, it was a stinker Buff Bagwell match that made them "abandon" their "plans" for WCW.

18 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

the creepy ass winking pirate

Not the creepy, winking ass-pirate

3 hours ago, Sport said:

I don't get why the Hurricanes insist upon it. 

it's v. cool

9 hours ago, eRay said:

 that NBA_paint account that gets a lot of pub

I don't condone Elon Musk trying to destroy Twitter, but I understand it.

As I recall, that ten-season run began with Karmanos firing or declining to even hire an agency and being like "nah I'll do it myself." I think he was actually the one who first sketched the Flushing Toilet on a napkin in the summer of '97.

4 hours ago, MCM0313 said:

I suspect being a laughingstock had more to do with being owned by Hugh Culverhouse. Other teams could have dressed in hot pink and called themselves the Unicorns, and they would still have run roughshod over Tampa. 

 

It's since been retconned into "creamsicle orange," but the Buccaneers wore basically the same color as the University of Tennessee and no one ever called the Vols [MOD EDIT], so I don't know why anyone ever entertained this "it's a soft color" deal.

6 hours ago, ruttep said:

I feel like the Canes are a team that tries way too hard to be "cool" and "different" with their brand. It started out with the "Bunch of Jerks" thing, which I think was a good response to old hockey men throwing a tantrum, but between making the black warning flags their primary, a road uniform with a nickname on it, randomly shuffling between different red jerseys, and wearing the red helmets on the road, stop it. You look ridiculous. Innovation is welcome, but what the Hurricanes do doesn't make any sense.

If you understand them as a team by and for The Internet, everything they do makes perfect sense.

23 minutes ago, Sport said:

 

This is where I'm at. I think the novelty of the creamsicles would wear very quickly if they were an every game look. One thing I've always liked about the 97 rebrand is it kept the creamsicle colors so they didn't completely throw away the DNA of the franchise - It added contrast and gave it a and gave it a cannonball like feel with the black and pewter. 

 

The solution is keep the creamsicles as an alternate, but stick with the sturdier red and pewter with metallic pants and go back to using the superior 1997 logos for the 16 other games. 

I think you yourself had a good idea with your Bucco Bruce redraw that introduced burgundy as an accent color for the traditional creamsicle orange and red. Gives it a little more contrast without resorting to black, or worse, shoehorning in pewter.

12 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

I understand why Bucs fans might not be crazy about the idea of  full time return to the bright orange, but am I the only one that has kind of soured on the current version of the pewter/red uniform?  I dunno, back in the early 2000's Tampa's original go-round  with this look was IMO about as perfect as an NFL uniform gets, but the new version is just kind... meh. I'm not entirely sure why, but Nike's absolutely terrible version of the pewter pants has a lot to do with it, I think.  The dark charcoal looks bad with the red jersey, but red over white is just bland. And the terminator skull will always be vastly inferior to the original pirate scrawled version of the logo.

Nope, I'm right there with you. I never liked the seasonal affective disorder 49ers to begin with, but the fact that Nike refuses to replicate metallic pewter pants and leaves them instead with warm grey makes it irredeemable. 

Another problem: what is their home uniform? Is it:

pewter/red/grey/black,

pewter/red/white/black,

pewter/white/grey/black,

pewter/white/white/black?

And that's not even mentioning the ill-conceived warm grey jersey or the tendency to wear snowflake-emoji white socks. You have a good chance of seeing any of these combinations in Tampa. I know every team's identity is a complete mess right now, but that's been a problem with this set going back to the days when the whole league didn't have that problem. A creamsicle set would be comparatively idiotproofed.

I guess I'm the only person who believes in creamsicle orange full-time for the Buccaneers. Vivid colors are back in style, everyone loves wearing magenta suits on postgame shows, so wearing a garish football jersey should be no issue. The logo can use some Cardinals/Panthers fine-tuning, of course, and there's no reason to commit to all the other details of the '76 uniform, but it's a better team color to build a brand around than dark red and warm grey.

On 10/13/2023 at 10:23 AM, SFGiants58 said:

Hot take: seeding should be done by run differential, not wins. Run differential is a better indicator of what teams are better than others. It’s also why I maintain that the 1987 Twins were the worst team to win a WS.

Be that as it may, decoupling seeding from the actual winning and losing of games all but defeats the point of playing the games. Besides, incongruities between record and run differential are where lots of upsets come from (that and exploiting mismatches, but that's more so in hockey), and upsets are supposed to be the fun of it all.

Warren Moon in front of Mike Munchak is approaching Yellow Rams Painting levels of citation

3 hours ago, ruttep said:

If you're gonna do a 90s theme (which I assume this is), you better wear teal/white/black again.

'90s = Industria and faux marble/metallic textures. Talk about graphic designers showing off to other graphic designers. Their guy must post here. Show yourself.

18 minutes ago, WBeltz said:

The Bills red alts wouldn’t be as annoying if they wore them with white pants and red socks

No, they're annoying in any circumstance. Should be red helmets with blue stripes, blue jerseys with white stripes, white pants with blue stripes, red socks with blue stripes. Perfect distribution of red, white, and blue.

2 hours ago, ManillaToad said:

Me. Football on Sunday morning is great and I like seeing the sport played in other cultures. The Germany and Mexico games are also fun.

The telecasts and crowds are indistinguishable from any domestic games. Maybe they'll cut to a chav going "FOOKIN ELL MATE LUV ME BUCS SIMPLE AS" into or out of a break, but if you told me the game this morning was in Nashville at the Titans' new stadium to replace the one that's already collapsing 23 years in, I'd say sure, far as I can tell, yeah.

Who even likes this London thing? It can't make that much money for the league. The NFL couldn't put down solid roots in Toronto, Why am I supposed to believe they've done so in London? It's like Bettman and any humid city with too many freeways. 

YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR TO LEBR--oh you mean that purple and black uniform yeah that one sucks really bad, I agree