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  1. UCF has never made the NCAA Tournament in men's basketball as a member of Conference USA, nor have they ever gotten out of the first round the four times they have made it to the dance.

    Southern Miss is even worse in that regard; they've only been to the NCAA Tournament twice in school history, the last time happening in 1991.

    I dunno about other sports, but both programs are pretty bad when it comes to men's basketball.

    And yet they are still better at basketball than ECU. If ECU get's accepted, then we'll all know exactly how desperate the BIg East is.

    Your personal opinion of how good one is over the other carries little weight in this discussion. Bring up some other reasons. Besides, as mentioned, ECU applied, not invited. If UCF wants in then apply.

    Personal opinion?

    East Carolina: 2005-2011

    8-20, 6-24, 11-19, 13-17, 10-21, 18-16

    It is not my opinion that they suck, it's a FACT that they suck.

    Well I guess there's a reason why all these conference moves are because of football and not basketball.

  2. Talks about saving the Big 12 are under way. From what I hear A&M (obviously) and Missouri are out. SMU, Houston, TCU, and BYU are reportedly getting invited in.

    Why would they invite TCU who is already joining the seemingly stable for now Big East?

    From my understanding, TCU wants out of the Big East now. I'm just hearing it from someone who's in with the Big XII, it could be wishful thinking, I dunno.

  3. Just because they have been denied now, doesn't mean they will be denied in the future. As for Mizzou... Mizzou was begging for the Big 10 to bring them in. I think Mizzou knows they are a better fit with Nebraska in the Big 10 rather than in the SEC. So they may have a back door agreement, but I think that's the extent of it... a back door agreement.

    Mizzou was begging, but there's a reason why the Big 10 didn't take them and I assume that reason will still stand. From my understanding, the Big 10 isn't looking to expand west anymore, but rather they're looking towards the east. That can all change when everything starts falling, but they want the bigger markets out in the east.

    How exactly is Mizzou a better fit with Nebraska? Because you have to drive through Missouri to get into the southeast corner of Nebraska? And how does that give them a backdoor agreement to get into the Big 10?

  4. If I'm Oklahoma, I'm still looking for a divorce from Texas. It's pretty clear Texas isn't getting rid of their network and because of that, Oklahoma got denied their move. I don't want to see college football change so drastically, but I think it would be in Oklahoma's best interest to find a new home that isn't shared with the Longhorns.

    The Big East? :blink:

    TLN isn't part of basic cable, is it? If not, it'll probably end up like The Mtn. - unwatched and irrelevant, and more trouble than it's worth. Hopefully, for the sake of college athletics as a whole, Texas cuts its losses sooner rather than later.

    This denial should have been a wakeup call for Texas then.

  5. If I'm Oklahoma, I'm still looking for a divorce from Texas. It's pretty clear Texas isn't getting rid of their network and because of that, Oklahoma got denied their move. I don't want to see college football change so drastically, but I think it would be in Oklahoma's best interest to find a new home that isn't shared with the Longhorns.

  6. Andy Katz reporting PAC-12 NOT expanding.

    If the PAC is not expanding and OU is genuine about staying in the Big 12 with conditions to be met and the Big East is going to solder on minus Pitt/Syracuse + 2 new members...does this mean that conference armageddon has largely been averted?

    I have a feeling conference armageddon has just been postponed. The ACC has added two teams with still possibly more, the SEC is still looking for a 14th, and we're not sure if Oklahoma's conditions will be met. If anything, OU and OK State could jump to the Big 10 now.

  7. It's my understanding that if teams leave, then the current contract becomes null and a new one's worked out.

    Where is this information coming from?

    I don't see what the SEC does with their TV deal necessarily impacting the terms of the Big East's TV deal.

    Whatever the Big East's tv deal is, it involves all current members of the Big East. The deal involves Syracuse and Pittsburgh. Why would they keep the same TV deal with those two teams gone? They'd be paying for two markets that they're no longer in. When the contract was signed, Syracuse and Pitt were part of the deal, when they leave, that contract doesn't add up anymore. Why would they continue to pay the same amount of money with renegotiating a contract?

  8. Fair enough. I would agree that Syracuse and Pitt won't join until 2014; if for no other reason than those two schools' tie-ins to the Big East's current basketball TV deal. There's no incentive for the Big East to let them go early, IMO.

    I could see the TV contract actually possibly being a reason they let deserters leave earlier. Contract size remains the same, number of pie slices decreases. It may only be for 1 or 2 years but it's more money per school at least for the short term.

    It's my understanding that if teams leave, then the current contract becomes null and a new one's worked out. When the SEC was talking about originally expanding, the talk was their TV deal would be increased because they'd have more teams. I imagine it would be the same way if you lost teams as well.

  9. This isn't the first time you've done that. But I'm still laughing at you bringing up Marcus Jordan, Perry would sh1t all over him, and anyone else at UCF

    As a whole university, or however else you want to look at it, Baylor>UCF

    I've been to both universities and I think UCF has a little more eye candy. But, then again, when you have over 28,000 females at a school, there's bound to be some lookers.

  10. I still say they go after Missouri, WVU, and Virginia Tech.

    My reasoning for Virginia Tech is now with the additions to the ACC, basketball wise, V-Tech loses a lot in the conference. Atleast if they join the SEC, the competition isn't as tough.

    The ACC buyout price prevents them from leaving. It's going to be UConn and UCF going to the ACC. UConn goes for obvious reasons. UCF goes because I think the SEC wakes up, and adds WVU, A&M, Louisville, and USF. They'll try to go after USF, but when the SEC offers, the jump. So they turn to the next best option. UCF is the largest university in Florida, and very rich. If they do join, they'll probably expand their stadium to around 60,000 (which I believe is already planned). If they join the ACC, they're competitive enough in the major sports to make the jump.

    Sounds good enough to me.

    I didn't even think of USF to the SEC and UCF to the ACC makes a lot of sense.

  11. Pitt has been "showing itself" to the other conferences, trying to get out of the BEast for a while. Strangely enough, their chancellor is head of the Big East Committee. The irony is kind of laughable.

    That's actually what the article talks about. He was preaching conference unity for the last few weeks and telling the other Big East teams they had to stick together, and well, now look what happens.

    We've been talking for the last few weeks how the Big XII was on the verge of destruction and in the matter of two days, I think we've seen the fatal shot to the Big East in football. The conference is now down to 6 teams and unless they raid one of the mid-majors or take the scraps of the Big XII, I think it's likely by the end of next week, two BCS conferences will cease to exist.

    FYP

    I'm including TCU.

    Not for long.

    In that case then we should just change it to 0. ^_^

  12. Pitt has been "showing itself" to the other conferences, trying to get out of the BEast for a while. Strangely enough, their chancellor is head of the Big East Committee. The irony is kind of laughable.

    That's actually what the article talks about. He was preaching conference unity for the last few weeks and telling the other Big East teams they had to stick together, and well, now look what happens.

    We've been talking for the last few weeks how the Big XII was on the verge of destruction and in the matter of two days, I think we've seen the fatal shot to the Big East in football. The conference is now down to 6 teams and unless they raid one of the mid-majors or take the scraps of the Big XII, I think it's likely by the end of next week, two BCS conferences will cease to exist.

    FYP

    I'm including TCU.

  13. Pitt has been "showing itself" to the other conferences, trying to get out of the BEast for a while. Strangely enough, their chancellor is head of the Big East Committee. The irony is kind of laughable.

    That's actually what the article talks about. He was preaching conference unity for the last few weeks and telling the other Big East teams they had to stick together, and well, now look what happens.

    We've been talking for the last few weeks how the Big XII was on the verge of destruction and in the matter of two days, I think we've seen the fatal shot to the Big East in football. The conference is now down to 7 teams and unless they raid one of the mid-majors or take the scraps of the Big XII, I think it's likely by the end of next week, two BCS conferences will cease to exist.

  14. It's official that they've applied, not official that they're apart of the ACC yet.

    In about 18 hours though, that'll be a different story, assuming no one in the Big East pulls a Baylor.

    Just read it on the bottom crawl, they've been accepted. Can't find a link, but it said BREAKING NEWS while I was watching the Stanford-Arizona game that they'v been voted in.

    I stand corrected. I fished around a bit to try and find a good source on it because I don't like calling some one else out :P Apparently, they voted Saturday morning and they're announcing it Sunday at 9:30 am ET in a press conference.

    ACC has approved addition of Pittsburgh, Syracuse

    Pretty much, teams leaving the Big East have to give a 27 month notice, so I guess this doesn't go into affect until 2013? I did not see this coming, atleast not this fast, but I can understand the ACC's move here. No use sitting on your hands while everyone else is bickering over what's going on. Completely out of left field though.

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