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  1. I meant after their affiliation with Utica ceases. Just a matter of time, that the other Western NHL teams follow suit.

    UPDATED:

    EASTERN CONFERENCE

    Adirondack (?)

    Cincinnati (Predators, Panthers)

    Elmira (Sabres)

    Florida (Hurricanes. Lightning)

    Greenville (Rangers)

    Gwinnett (Coyotes)

    Kalamazoo (Blue Jackets, Canucks)

    Manchester (Kings)

    Norfolk (?}

    Orlando (Maple Leafs)

    Reading (Flyers)

    South Carolina (Capitals, Bruins)

    Toledo (Red Wings)

    Wheeling (Penguins, Canadiens)

    WESTERN CONFERENCE

    Alaska (Blues)

    Allen (Sharks)

    Colorado (Flames)

    Evansville (Senators)

    Ft. Wayne (Avalanche)

    Idaho (Stars)

    Indy (Blackhawks)

    Missouri (Independent)

    Quad City (Wild)

    Rapid City (Independent)

    Tulsa (Independent)

    Utah (Ducks)

    Wichita (Independent)

    Maybe the best solution is to have no divisions... just an East and West Conference? Not trying to make this a realignment thread. Just trying to make sense of this mess.

  2. Well, that's good then. ...so here is how the ECHL looks so far...

    Cincinnati (Panthers, Predators)

    Elmira (Sabres)

    Manchester (Kings)

    Reading (Flyers)

    Toledo (Red Wings)

    Wheeling (Penguins, Canadiens) - CANADIENS SHOULD GO WITH BRAMPTON

    Florida (Hurricanes, Lightning)

    Greenville (Rangers)

    Gwinnett (Coyotes)

    Norfolk - HURRICANES?

    Orlando (Maple Leafs)

    South Carolina (Capitals, Bruins) BRUINS WANT SOMETHING NORTH, SO CAPITALS SHOULD STAY

    Brampton (Independent)

    Evansville (Senators)

    Ft. Wayne (Avalanche)

    Indy (Blackhawks)

    Kalamazoo (Blue Jackets, Canucks) CANUCKS SHOULD GO WEST

    Allen (Sharks)

    Missouri (Independent)

    Quad City (Wild)

    Tulsa (Independent)

    Wichita (Independent)

    Alaska (Blues)

    Colorado (Flames)

    Idaho (Stars)

    Rapid City (Independent)

    Utah (Ducks)

    .... who in the hell knows how the realignment will go. Looks like a lot of teams will change affiliations as well. Rumor has it the Cyclones and Predators are going to stick together and the Panthers are parting ways.

  3. What sucks is Alaska is going to end up losing their franchise. If this new AHL West takes off, no NHL team is going to put a farm team up there.

    As for CBJ linking up with the Cyclones, that could work for AA. Cincinnati is not a hockey town. The Cyclones have a good following, but they never pack in seats. Only big nights are $1 beer/College Brat Night, and when kids eat free/parents stand in line for the whole 2nd Period just to get their kids a free hot dog Night.

  4. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/24/report-ahl-migration-west-could-begin-in-2015-16/

    Some here. Found some yesterday too. Googled it, can't remember where. Reason why Denver Cutthroats and Arizona Sundogs ceased operations, because they were bought out.

    It's only fitting that these teams get "farm" teams closer to home. Just wonder what kind of future is in store for some of these teams with a long AHL history. I could even see the Blue Jackets buying Lake Erie (would make sense).

    I hope that the Grizzlies and Aces stick around. But, I just don't see how it would make sense for anyone to affiliate with Alaska if they want to keep teams close. Abbotsford would be a good fit for the Canucks. As for Calgary, who knows. Maybe they will buy the Grizzlies?

    Think we are going to see a lot of greed in the Minor Leagues. A lot of fans are going to lose their teams.

    Maybe the ECHL will expand to the Northeast and absorb some of these AHL teams that are going to get left behind?

  5. Sorry if there is already a thread for this, I couldn't find it. Looks like for 2015-16 the minor league hockey system is going to go with a huge overhaul. Looks like the Western Conference teams are going to get Western teams, so here is what I have gathered so far...

    1. Arizona Coyotes have bought the Arizona Sundogs (once of the CHL). They will be the new AHL team for Arizona.

    2. Colorado Avalanche have purchased the Denver Cutthroats (once of the CHL). They will be the new AHL Colorado affiliate.

    3. Los Angles Kings will be moving their AHL affiliate to Ontario, CA (they already own the Reign, ECHL,). Reign will be moved up.

    4. Winnipeg Jets are moving their AHL team to Thunder Bay.

    5. Ducks apparently are buying an AHL team and moving it to San Diego. Probably a return of the Gulls, I suspect.

    6. Edmonton Oilers have purchased the Bakersfield Condors (ECHL). They will be the new AHL affiliate.

    So what this leaves is San Jose, who are rumored to be moving Worcester to California. Only fitting they team up with the Stockton Thunder. Calgary and Vancouver are rumored (once deals are closed) will be moving their teams West. Since, the ECHL West will be dismantled, this looks like the Alaska Aces will be closing up shop after this season. Utah Grizzlies future is unknown. Probably will be ceasing operations as well.

    Now, it makes perfect sense why the Midwest teams of the ECHL have been moved into the Western Conference. News is at the end of this season the CHL will be folding and of what little teams are left will be absorbed into the ECHL. Brampton will probably fold where they are struggling to stay afloat now.

    So, another question is what happens to the AHL teams/cities that lose their team? Portland, ME (Pirates) have a strong history in the AHL. Do they get a second chance are they folding too? Worcester Sharks are looking to fold. The Oklahoma City Barons are up for sale by Edmonton. Perhaps St. Louis buys them and moves their AHL team there? Another question is the Lake Erie Monsters? With Colorado buying the Denver Cutthroats where does that leave them? They would fit in nicely with the ECHL (Walleye, Cyclones).

    Anybody know of anymore "news"?

  6. The "Ultimate" NFL Realignment

    *AMERICAN (AFC)*

    Baltimore

    Buffalo

    Cincinnati

    Cleveland

    Denver

    Houston

    Indianapolis

    Jacksonville

    Kansas City

    Miami

    New England

    NY Jets

    Oakland

    Pittsburgh

    San Diego

    Tennessee

    *NATIONAL (NFC)*

    Arizona

    Atlanta

    Carolina

    Chicago

    Dallas

    Detroit

    Green Bay

    Minnesota

    New Orleans

    NY Giants

    Philadelphia

    St. Louis

    San Francisco

    Seattle

    Tampa Bay

    Washington

    Keep current system. Get rid of 2 preseason games and make those regular season games. Play every team in your conference once (15 games, on an every other home-away basis) plus 3 games against your "traditional foes" aka current divisions. Top 6 go to playoffs from each conference.

    Pretty simple, yet will never be done...

  7. With the ECHL divisions being really lopsided, I see a realignment coming next season. Here is a realignment that makes most sense...

    EASTERN CONFERENCE

    Cincinnati Cyclones

    Elmira Jackals

    Evansville Icemen

    Florida Everblades

    Ft. Wayne Komets

    Greenville Road Warriors

    Gwinnett Gladiators

    Indianapolis Fuel

    Kalamazoo Wings

    Orlando Solar Bears

    Reading Royals

    South Carolina Stingrays

    Toledo Walleye

    Wheeling Nailers

    WESTERN CONFERENCE

    Alaska Aces

    Bakersfield Condors

    Colorado Eagles

    Idaho Steelheads

    Las Vegas Wranglers

    Ontario Reign

    Stockton Thunder

    Utah Grizzlies

  8. Who knows... I do love the NHL Realignment, but they should have waited another season, couldn't hurt. Like all other hockey fans, I'm sick of this. Move the damn team to Quebec already and be done with it.

    Again, another way of the NHL shooting themselves in the foot. Phoenix and Florida should have been dealt with before realignment was considered.

  9. Although the new NHL realignment proposal is a step in the right direction (4 divisions instead of 6), I really think it could be tweaked a little more to accomodate two future expansion teams.

    EASTERN - ATLANTIC

    Carolina Hurricanes

    New Jersey Devils

    New York Islanders

    New York Rangers

    Philadelphia Flyers

    Pittsburgh Penguins

    Tampa Bay Lightning

    Washington Capitals

    EASTERN - NORTHEAST

    Boston Bruins

    Buffalo Sabres

    Columbus Blue Jackets

    Detroit Red Wings

    Montreal Canadiens

    Ottawa Senators

    Quebec Nordiques (Florida Panthers)

    Toronto Maple Leafs

    WESTERN - CENTRAL

    Chicago Blackhawks

    Colorado Avalanche (temporary)

    Dallas Stars

    Minnesota Wild

    Nashville Predators

    St. Louis Blues

    Winnipeg Jets

    AVAILABLE MARKETS: Houston, Kansas City, Saskatchewan (2/3 awarded franchises and Colorado goes to the Pacific)

    WESTERN - PACIFIC

    Anaheim Ducks

    Calgary Flames

    Edmonton Oilers

    Los Angeles Kings

    San Jose Sharks

    Seattle Totems/Metropolitans (Phoenix Coyotes)

    Vancouver Canucks

    Playoffs: Each conference (two division winners and six wildcards)

  10. Going off of what the Admiral said... Would be nice to see a two league AAA hockey system like it use to be in the 90's.

    AHL NORTH

    Bridgeport Sound Tigers

    Connecticut Whale

    Hamilton Bulldogs

    Manchester Monarchs

    Portland Pirates

    Providence Bruins

    Springfield Falcons

    St. John's Ice Caps

    Toronto Marlies

    Worcester Sharks

    AHL SOUTH

    Adirondack Phantoms

    Albany Devils

    Binghamton Senators

    Hershey Bears

    Norfolk Admirals

    Rochester Americans

    Syracuse Crunch

    WB/Scranton Penguins

    IHL EAST

    Charlotte Checkers

    Cincinnati Cyclones

    Grand Rapids Griffins

    Lake Erie Monsters

    Orlando Solar Bears

    Toledo Walleye

    IHL WEST

    Chicago Wolves

    Houston Aeros

    Milwaukee Admirals

    Oklahoma City Barons

    Peoria Rivermen

    San Antonio Stampede

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