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  1. I leave it at that. I got my opinions, my stance on that, and I definitely won't change it – and others got their views. That's the way it is.
  2. "For the third time, and I can't stress this enough, please look up how free speech actually works" That's the hypocrisy! There is no FREE SPEECH here, since you have edited my comment without even leaving a notification in the comment itself, so it looked like I have sent that thing of a comment. This is not the definintion of free speech; at least not when it's about its initial meaning. This doesn't make any sense to continue this debate.
  3. And you guys just don't understand that this is just hypocritical bs in the first place? Wow! Has nothing to do with a lack of time to edit and change names, since CCSL won't change it anyway. I bet they won't. Because this would be against their own interests as a sports logo history website. That's the part where hypocrisy comes into play. Again: Words are just words – the context is important! Otherwise, freedom of speech gets restricted more and more and more. But some of you guys seem to have adapted to that reality without being bothered about. That's so typical for America.
  4. Why is the word still readable on CCSL? Answer me that quesion? https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/168/Washington_Redskins/ How do you want to call this team using a nickname which they had from 1932-2020? You wanna censor the name completely, although they were called the way they were called in all these decades? As terrible as the name is, this will be very hard to do. How are you going to do that without distorting reality and denying their questionable history? Answer me that and we actually will have a basis for discussion.
  5. Go Red Sox said: My answer is: hopefully not. The word "staff member, front office personnel, player, coach, and possibly cheerleader of the Washington Football Team that plays in Maryland and is headquartered in the Commonwealth of Virginia" is without any doubt an unambigious, utterly racist word, just like the N-word. What the heck is this, dear Moderators? This is not my exact comment that I have posted yesterday! You have modified it without at least sending me a message, leaving a notification in the comment itself? I've used that word, Washington's old nickname, although I've always been disliking it completely! And you replaced that word with a never-ending story like this? This is more than hilarious. This is bat....crazy. This means that from now on actually no one is not even allowed anymore to talk about the team using the name which they used prior to Snyder's decision? So much for the basic rights regarding free speech, also on this forum! One's not even allowed to use or talk about that effing nickname on a website like this (which by the way is still making it into the news elsewhere) "just" because the owner of the team (rightfully) decided to replace it with a different, non-racist name in the future? Guess what? Their old nicjname does still exist on this very website CCSL: https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/168/Washington_Redskins/ Why? Well, I guess because this is what you usually call team history? I wonder why you haven't replaced that word with "Football Team" yet, since I can still read their old name here on that site all over the place. Are you going to ban that very word right here in the near future, too? I'm talking about that very team's history, uniforms, logos from 1932 till 2020! This could become tricky. And if not, why won't you do it? It all just doesn't make any sense anymore. You understand how ridiculous and overblown your reaction actually is? This is beyond rational thinking or common sense. It's just completely nonsensical and also absolutely hypocritical, due to the aforementioned reasons. How about picking one, since in this case, you can't have it both ways! That's by far the most ridiculous, most exaggerated reaction I've ever seen on this board – (MOD REDACTED) who's also been pro free speech at the same time, all the time. (George Carlin could teach you a lot about this). Words are just words. It's the context you're using these words which is crucial! To cut a long story short: this is my last comment on this Sports Logo News section, since I don't see any reason anymore to post comments about whatever it might be in the future, just to watch my comments getting edited without any notification by moderators who then turn them into surreal, deviant and ridiculous verbal structures for little or no reasons. What a joke.
  6. You think it's a silly name. Other people love it. Who's right?
  7. Are you (still not) aware of the situation in Washington regarding their football team – for the past 40 years? Textbook case of apples-and-oranges comparison intended?
  8. My answer is: hopefully not. The word "staff member, front office personnel, player, coach, and possibly cheerleader of the Washington Football Team that plays in Maryland and is headquartered in the Commonwealth of Virginia" is without any doubt an unambigious, utterly racist word, just like the N-word. Whereas Braves and Indians are clearly not. The word Indian might not be the most appropriate, up-to-date term to describe and define Native Americans. Yet, it's definitely not a racist word. The only thing one could criticize about the word "Indian" is the fact that these people's roots aren't located in India since Columbus ended up in/on the wrong country/continent. It's definitely a historically incorrect term. And the word Braves? Seriously? Then we could also talk about whether broccoli is an offensive word or not.
  9. Right. Snyder will eventually benefit from that without any doubt. Again! In fact, he – the white billionaire – is the reason why this team has kept the name for more than 20 years (with Snyder at the helm), since he quite frankly didn't give a sh... about the team's racist nickname a bit. However, since main sponsor FedEx threatened to end the alliance with Snyder's team, he all of a sudden, within just two weeks or so, has collapsed under the pressure, ready to change his team's identity for obvious reasons, a topic that he didn't want to deal with for the past 20 years or more during his tenure as team owner. Racism has become a problem for Snyder not because of racism itself, but exclusively for financial reasons. Another classic example for "money rules the world". On the other hand, better late than never.
  10. Just saw it. However, Krakens sounds wrong to me; acceptable or not.
  11. I was completely wrong. The uniforms actually look very good. Same goes for the font that I didn't really like at first sight. All in all, this is way better than their previous sets. Good job, Hawks.
  12. "Problem" is that your trivial opinion thankfully doesn't count anymore. But you can still feast your eyes on memorabilia, videos or whatever is needed to make your eyes watery! Hail to the new era!
  13. Visually, this is by lightyears the best identity in the entire NHL. I love everything about it: colors, the spiky "S", the red eye, the bevel, the anchor's top part which is the Space Needle, the great wordmark. Everything. 10/10.
  14. I didn't say that "the actions have no value and won't contribute to further legislation". I used the word IF. The word IF is THE keyword. Basically, you're agreeing with me, you just don't like the way I've put it. And thanks for clarfiying that sports and politics are two different fields... I was referring to police culture and police brutality against Afro-Americans. You won't change police culture through symbolism. That's a fact. Or how do you want to involve companies in this regard? It exclusively needs some appropriate, coherent legislation in order to start solving this giant problem because these cops won't change their attitude voluntarily. A fish always rots from the head down. And if politicians decide to keep looking away for obvious reasons – which they're doing as we speak – or in the best case scenario, throwing some legislative breadcrumbs to people's feet, nothing positive will change for Afro-Americans – in terms of the big picture. But it actually could also get even worse. Meaning that symbolism will always remain just symbolism and no more than this, if politicians won't draw the right conclusions.
  15. Black W's won't improve the living conditions of Afro-Americans. Same goes for the lives of Native Americans in reservations across the U.S. just because the Washington Redskins (finally) are going to change their utterly racist nickname/identity. Don't misunderstand me: these corrections are good and necessary. But they all will eventually be just a waste of time if the political system isn't ready to change itself – and the system that it has created over the course of decades. A black W inside a crest eventually won't mean a thing if out-of-control police brutality against the Afro-American minority can continue because politicians on both sides of the aisle refuse to demilitarize police, refuse to revise qualification and training for cops (deescalation instead of escalation tactics), refuse to acknowledge that there's a basic problem with racism and misuse of power among cops. As long as there are exclusively lip service or platitudes in politics, because too much money has been involved ever since, things can only get worse.
  16. Agree. The uniform looks clean – but also very boring. That typeface is mediocre at best.
  17. Thanks, OnWis97. I eventually decided to keep the yellow spots for my rebrand because I wanted to change as little as possible; except for the nickname/primary logo. I don't even know what these spots look like on merchandise, caps, shirts, etc. P.S.: Just looked at two New Era Caps; one having a pretty small-sized logo, the other one larger (normal scale), and the spots are looking pretty okay in both cases. Nowadays, this shouldn't be a problem anymore. At the end of the day, it's just spots.
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