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2 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Well, after having brought the league to its absolute height.

No. Because he sold their future for a fairytale. They existed solely on a few expansion fees being paid full price and the carrot on the end of the stick that the NFL was going to buy the league and magically make it profitable. 

Is the same reason he's booted from the Hall of Fame after the disaster that became of the HOF Village. 

3 hours ago, nickp91 said:

The 30 For 30 about how Lee Hutton has absolutely crashed and burned the AFL will be very entertaining 

Still need to do one on C David Baker and how he destroyed the original AFL first

4 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

The Beer Snake at Defenders home games has a new rule-

 

Fans cannot personally  “feed the snake”. Cups will be collected by a designated person in each section who will then take it to the snake section.

Aren't the beer snake seats the cheapest? Not like they have to worry about people sneaking into a better section without paying. 

I just don't get the insistence in killing the one genuinely beloved novelty that was created... And it sells a TON of beer to grow it. Why would you be against it as a venue?

4 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

 

Double post... 

7 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

I'd love too see the NAL try and force this through. I don't think they can. Didn't a law just get passed in regards to NDA's and non-competes in the entertainment arena? 

 

Doesn't go into effect yet

8 hours ago, McCall said:

Seattle's "demise" was due to geography. Being the only team west of Texas was not cost efficient.

 

If they moved the Panthers and Roughnecks out to say some 2-city combination of Oakland, San Diego or Seattle, then split the league East-West (Arlington and San Antonio moving to the west), that might work.

They pretty much fly from DFW  to whichever venue is hosting the game. Where they fly too isn't as big a factor when you figure it's only 5 games a year would be Seattle instead of to Houston. 

Hate to say it but a combination of things have made Houston troublesome this year. Might have been better to have them sit out the first year of UFL and go with Seattle instead. 

1 hour ago, The_Admiral said:

Oh, and Warren also said the stadium would draw 77,000 each to the men's and women's Final Fours. And then he said Chicago would get World Cup games. GENIUS, the next World Cup in the United States is in two years; when, pray tell, do you think the next one will be? At the rate they're going, the Bears would be replacing the new stadium before it ever came back here!

 

I loathe this team.

Not to tangent, but the way FIFA is going with the World Cup, it's going to be about every 20 years or so North America will get the games again. They're to the point even Europe and the Americas are having multi-country hosts. It's going to start rotating between The Americas, Europe, Asia/Oceania, and back with consistency since they're not going to keep finding the Qatars, South Africas, or Brazils of the world going into nation-changing debt to build the stadiums for one event and then sit vacant and dilapidated in short order.

3 hours ago, Sodboy13 said:

This magnificent new lakefront dome would only seat 65,000 instead of Soldier Field's 61,000. It would still be too small for Super Bowls and World Cups and NCAA Final Fours and probably Olympics. This is indescribably stupid! Go away!

The NFL already got rid of that rule. They don't bid out hosting anymore. They just pick where they want.

Allegiant Stadium only held 61k for the Super Bowl. 

9 hours ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

Maybe they could play in the United Center like they did in the 1932 playoffs at Chicago Stadium.

That game is what brought us hashmarks.

Also the field was 80 yards long so they kept 'moving the chains' back 20 yards after a team reach midfield to make them go the additional 20 they were missing. Prior to this game, the ball was spotted where a player went down at. If they went out at the sideline, the ball was put in play along the sideline. The narrow field meant teams could 'move the ball away from the wall' at Chicago Stadium (they also gave up a down to do this). The next year the NFL codified it as the rule, and the ball could only be spotted inside the hashmarks. No matter how far wide a player was tackled.

2 hours ago, PTrudellJr said:

But this is supposed to be the premiere indoor football league paying their players more than the UFL.

 

I agree with everyone else.  I don't see this league making a full season.  

The league will survive. How many teams do is the big question. 

2 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/6U5BX7esP9rdAri9/?mibextid=xfxF2i

Southwest Kansas is reportedly looking for host families for their players. 

That's not uncommon with minor league teams. Saves them a lot and costs them just two season tickets usually. 

8 hours ago, Lights Out said:

Now that we've seen the whole thing, I like Denver's new uniforms except for the weird triangle motif. I hope they do a slight tweak as soon as they can and get rid of those.

Triangles are usually used in maps to denote mountains. 

3 hours ago, raz said:

Not expecting them to set records each week, but also not expecting them to lose a fifth of their crowd, either. 

 

Look, I'm hoping the league makes it. I was a fan of the previous XFLs and the USFLs (especially the 1980s version), and the AAF and whatever else you want. But I can't ignore a dropoff like that. 

 

Let's hope for the best. 

Cardinals were playing a home game that afternoon. 41k there. 31k at the BattleHawks game. 

And technically you could have left the 1130am BattleHawks game and gotten into the Cards game about halfway through from their 130pm first pitch. But it was also free full zip jacket day at Busch for the first 25k fans.

St. Louis had a reason their fan support was so high. Same as Baltimore in the CFL USA debacle. Ufl/xfl/USFL should've done everything they could to get teams in Oaklandand San Diego and played into the same anti-nfl sentient that has presented itself in St. Louis. 

6 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

There has been significant pushback against publicly funded stadiums for sports teams in the last year or so and the only one that has been successful is the OKC Thunder's attempts to get a new arena, which was voted "yes" by I think an 80-20 margin.  

I think the ramifications still reverberating from covid has soured people much more on any wealthy person insisting that government money to help them when those people voting aren't feeling like they're doing well at all. 

The Eat The Rich attitude is alive and well right now. 

55 minutes ago, Dilbert said:

And what celebrity would put their Louisiana based team in Lake Charles?  I mean New Orleans sure, Baton Rouge... maybe, Monroe if its one of the Duck Dynasty hillbillies, but Lake Charles? At least the VooDoo name makes more sense in Lafayette than Lake Charles.

Lake Charles Landsharks would like a word with you. 

Wonder if Carolyn Shiver was shopping for a team. 

2 minutes ago, FrutigerAero said:

Only one I can think of is Devil Rays to Rays.  And that was barely a change.

Oilers to Titans. They had already moved and just then wanted a new identity to start fresh. Coyotes and Cardinals changed from Phoenix to Arizona for marketing purposes. Though that wasn't nicknames. 

California Angels to Anaheim Angels to Los Angeles Angels didn't change nicknames but certainly changed their names just because they felt like it. 

Never heard the mountains near slc called the rockies. They're the Wasatch Mountains. They might be part of the overarching chain of mountains through the continent but they're never referred to as such. 

2 hours ago, LMU said:

Is there a more OITGDNHL situation than forcing a temporary identity on a team just to appease a poverty billionaire into thinking that he can somehow build an arena when he can't even pay taxes or hotel bills?

 

At least they have a logo ready to go.

People in charge way overthink things. It makes them feel important and project that out.

They can create an color scheme, and identity, in a couple months. They can get their supplier to hold off creating their equipment and merch until they're ready for it. They can change their name, colors, or logos in a couple years if they flubbed it. They're not going to hit it out of the park no matter how much time they're given when they rely on dozens of 'focus groups' and 'fan surveys' to come up with the worst answer.

What do you want to eat tonight? Pizza. Chinese. Italian. Hamburgers.

Cool, let's go with tomato sauce, pickles, onion, ketchup, mustard, pepperoni, on fried rice with breadsticks.

Everyone gets what they wanted.

3 hours ago, Hambone792 said:

I’d love to see purple incorporated for Utah. Ties in with classic Jazz colors, underused in the NHL. Could put a unique spin on color combo.

Purple/Orange variation (similar to flyers minor league colors)

Purple/Red (TCU football alternates)

possibilities could be endless 

 

or Red Rocks inspired color palates 

Your 2022-23 USHL Champion Youngstown Phantoms have purple/orange combo (and usually predominately white or black uniforms) but this is their purple with the secondary logo. It's a pretty sharp look. Orange could be more prominent.

25 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

For now, yes.  There's a reason that Mark Cuban sold a majority ownership of the Mavericks to the people who own the Sands Casino, with him retaining a minority share and control of basketball operations.  Cuban hopes that the sale will speed up the legalization of Casino Gambling in Texas so that he can build a new arena that is the centerpiece of a hotel and casino in the DFW Metroplex.  

 

But for the time being, I suspect that the Dallas PVF team will not use the American Airlines Center.  

Is reunion still standing? 

Frisco or Allen maybe? 

2 hours ago, The_Admiral said:

If you understand it as a convoluted legal plot to make this deadbeat stop embarrassing them by giving him a series of unattainable goals, it makes perfect sense. The "Coyotes history" will be consigned to the same basement file cabinet as the Thrashers' history; the only question is whether they sort out the Jets' lineage while they're at it now that nothing matters anymore.

Now would be the time to give Winnipeg back their history. Does the Utah group really want that history if they're not even getting the Coyotes history?

On 4/13/2024 at 1:11 AM, MDGP said:

 

2 minutes ago, 4_tattoos said:

Name is taken

 

https://premierlacrosseleague.com/teams/utah-archers

Well, that's disappointing.

8 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

They could definitely go a bit Wild West with the name.

 

• Cowboys

• Outlaws

• Wranglers

• Rattlers

• Herd

• Pioneers

• Railroaders

• Wagoners

• Blizzards (think ice lizards)

• Sundancers

 

Gosh, I love blindly throwing darts and hoping they stick.

 

 

 

• Cowboys ( never gonna happen for obvious reasons)

• Outlaws (I like it, but is that a name that's going to win over the mormon population?)

• Wranglers (I know this name from Arena Football. It's a good name. Feels a bit of a reach.)

• Rattlers (Same as Wranglers. It could work, but I doubt it'd be an option, though snake-theme might be possible)

• Herd (A low-key solid name, but I don't think it has the oomph to wow anyone, Ya Heard With Perd)

• Pioneers (This is a good one. Has a lot of options. But if Seattle and Vegas are any indications on direction of team names... it's not going to be a folksy name. Shame because it works well)

• Railroaders (Love this name. Golden Spikes, Golden Spikers, Spikers, etc all tied into the transcontinental railroad being finished. Railers also works; There's a high school in Kansas called the Ellis Railroaders and they regularly shorten it to just "Railers" as a nickname to a nickname)

• Wagoners (Goes with Pioneers. Similar theme and good name. I like it. But not edgy/modern at all so think it'll fail to deliver)

• Blizzards (think ice lizards)  (I liked Blizzard in general. Not sure if pluralization works. but it's not bad. I think there's more that can be done with the "Blizzard" name compared to Blizzards. If they go the Yeti/Abominable route, Blizzard would maybe make more sense the same way Avalanche went with the big foot logo for a general 'Avalanche' nickname)

• Sundancers (I like it. Feels more of a New Mexico "Zia Sun" motif than something for Utah. But props for originality. But you know within two months everyone will be calling them the Dancers. Some focus group somewhere will kibosh that one just for that)

I just really really really hope they don't go with some minor-league style pun/kid-friendly name that will be embarrassing just a few seasons in. Such as anything ending in Z or X. Nothing that's a cultural cliche like Raptors were with Toronto. And avoid the 'say nothing while trying to appeal to everyone' like the Wild and Blue Jackets did.