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Preseason Week 2 (Part 2)
49ers @ Vikings

Steelers @ Jaguars

Raiders @ Dolphins

Cowboys @ Chargers

Eagles @ Browns

Bengals @ Giants

Ravens @ Cardinals

Falcons @ Jets

Preseason Week 2 (Part 1)
Bears @ Seahawks

Panthers @ Patriots

Saints @ Packers

Texans @ Rams

Lions @ Colts

Broncos @ Bills

Commanders @ Chiefs

Buccaneers @ Titans

19 hours ago, cajunaggie08 said:

The Cincinnati Bengals' stadium has gone from being named Paul Brown Stadium to Paycor Stadium

This leaves just 2 NFL stadiums without corporate name rights, and both are in the NFC North. Soldier Field and Lambeau Field.

Will likely just be Lambeau once the Bears get their new digs on the Arlington Park property in Arlington Heights. Wonder who will swoop in for those naming rights?

5 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

I thought the Giants announcement had them wearing white for that game. 

The week 12 on the graphics is listed under Blue.

Also the article on the site states "The Giants will don their primary blue jerseys with white pants for all other home games and when they travel to Dallas for a Thanksgiving Day matchup with the Cowboys on November 24."

Clearly a mistake.

1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

The Cowboys as of late wear their alternate blue uniforms on Thanksgiving. 

Cowboys already announced they will were the Navy throwbacks with the white helmets on Thanksgiving.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cowboys-unveil-alternate-helmet-for-2022-season

The Giants week 12 announcement is a mistake. 

7 minutes ago, TBGKon said:

 

Not saying this won't happen but I would take a tweet for a source outside of the the Cowboys themselves or the NFL with a grain of salt. Why wouldn't the Cowboys have announced this when the announced the Thanksgiving Day throwbacks?

13 minutes ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said:

I left the boards for 3 days...3 days...and the NFL world completely collapsed. Kids, if you didn't know before, now you know: sports' #1 priority is money. Everyone involved, from the players, coaches, staff, owners, broadcasters, ect., has some sort of financial motive. A byproduct of the league loving money is that they will do whatever it takes to promote their product, which includes actual football. But over the last 72 hours the NFL has shown me that teams don't care about anything else. They don't care about traditon. (CHI, ARI). They don't care about asthetics (CAR, NYJ, NO, PHI, WAS). They care about demographics, money, and how to get people talking and buying. If that happens to be in the uni-lover's best interest, say, a beloved throwback uniform (DAL, NYG, NE, ATL), then so be it. But if a color swap is what is going to make people talk about them more, tune in to their games, and buy said product, then that's what they'll do. 

 

This is the end of uniform uniformity. The cash grab has never been more apparent.

Money is the top factor you are absolutely right. If they can pair the money grab with throwbacks they will. If not they will figure something out.

As far as teams that did not go the throwback route here is some info to consider.

There is some history for the Bears with orange helmets. They wore orange helmets in 1933 and 1934. They also wore White helmets in 1934. This pre-dated the wishbone C but they haven't always only worn navy. The majority of their existence outside of early plain brown leather they have been a navy helmet team but there is some history with orange and white helmets.

The Cardinals never have worn black helmets. This is a first for this team. They have some instance of red helmets in their past as well as plain brown leather in the very early years but never black.

The Panthers, Jets, Eagles and Commanders have no history of Black helmets, but the Commanders don't have the option of history anymore. White would have made for some historic relevance for the Jets or Eagles, and the Panthers have only ever worn Silver until now. The Saints had the 1 pre-sesaon with black lids so there is some lose history, but that helmet stripe is just bad.

Good Morning Football on NFL Network this morning reported it will be 13 teams this season with Alt helmet shells so it appears we may be done or they are not allowed to spoil the 14th and are only discussing the 13 that are announced.

Not sure if anyone brought it up but the NFC East is the only division where all 4 teams have alternate helmet shells for 2022.
The NFC South will also have all 4 teams next season.

16 minutes ago, NH4 said:

 

I think we’re finally done (thank goodness). Also this says the Cowboys will be wearing their white helmet with a white facemask and current primary logo, which I didn’t know before. 

That Schefter twitter post shows 2 versions on the Cowboys helmet... one with current logo and one true throwback. I am guessing the white with the current logo was an error. as the teams official announcement showed throwbacks. He stated 14 as well when earlier in the year 15 were reported.

I am guessing the Rams might have been on the list for this season but then earlier in the year announced they would not. Either that or the earlier report might have thought the Bucs would get the Bucco Bruce uniforms done in time.

If we are down to 1 team left for 2022 my guess is it will be either Red lids for the Bills or Blue lids for the Colts

5 hours ago, Cujo said:

 

Still could. I fully expect another dozen HFHS (helmet for helmet's sake) to drop before the season kicks off

A report earlier in the year on Uniwatch stated that 15 teams would be using alternate helmet shells in 2022.

We are at 13 announced. 2 remaining if that report is accurate.

14 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

 

Throwback socks had different stripe proportion.

No... same socks and pants were used just jersey, facemask and helmet decals were changed.

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/75uniform-launch

7 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

Both teams wore three jerseys, three sets of pants, and three socks in 2021. But the Bengals wore 10 distinct combination and the Browns wore 5.

The Browns only wore 2 socks in 2021. Brown mid-calf striped and white striped. 

3 minutes ago, Cujo said:

Thus, the Cleveland Browns became the Baltimore Ravens. Thanks for clarifying!

If a McDonald's owner moves his entire staff to a new location and starts a Wendy's it's not a McDonald's just b/c they used to work in one no matter how long those people used to work for McDonalds they aren't a McDonald's anymore and can't serve Big Macs.

Also anyone can cherry pick portion of a topic to support their stance... Much more was stated then the sentences you quoted from me and Oldschoolvikings.

Legal actions by the city of Cleveland and Browns season ticket holders led the NFL to broker a compromise that saw the Browns franchise, history, records, and intellectual property remain in Cleveland. In return, Modell was permitted to establish a new franchise in Baltimore, which was eventually named the Ravens. He moved the players and staff not the franchise. The players and staff left Cleveland not the Browns.
 

Since it was deemed infeasible for the Browns to play the 1996 season in Cleveland under such circumstances, the franchise was officially deactivated by the NFL in February 1996 and Modell was allowed to transfer his football organization to the Ravens: thus, the Ravens are officially regarded by the NFL as an expansion team populated by the former Browns staff and roster that began play in 1996.
 

As part of the settlement, the NFL agreed to reactivate the Browns franchise no later than the 1999 season provided the City of Cleveland constructed an NFL-caliber venue to replace the aging Cleveland Stadium. Even if Cleveland had forced Modell to sell or blocked the move the Browns still would have been deactivated as Cleveland Stadium had to be replaced and the city had no other venue that met NFL requirements for even temporary use. The city of Cleveland subsequently demolished Cleveland Stadium beginning in late 1996, and built a new stadium on the same site. By 1998, the NFL had ruled out moving any of the league's then-30 teams to Cleveland (and by extension committed to stocking the roster of  the Browns with an expansion draft).

This was a first in the history of sports so people have a hard time accepting it, but it caused changes in other sports.  The Seattle SuperSonics' move to Oklahoma City in 2008 included an agreement that the SuperSonics' name, logo, colors, and history would all be left in Seattle. This also includes banners and trophies, which would be displayed in a museum until such time as a new franchise (expansion or relocation) is brought to Seattle to be hung from the rafters of its arena.  The Minnesota Twins, when they signed their deal with Hennepin County, Minnesota for Target Field in 2006, agreed to a provision that was signed into law, allowing the state of Minnesota the right of first refusal to buy the team if it is ever sold. Also, it requires that the name, colors, World Series trophies, and history of the team remain in Minnesota if the Twins are ever moved out of the state. When the Pistons moved back into downtown Detroit from Auburn Hills  they made an agreement similar to the Supersonic's deal: if the team were ever to move out of Detroit, the team's name, colors, history, and records, including the team's NBA championship trophies, would remain in Detroit. 

The  point is that it is the fans that hold that history and relive those memories. Cleveland cheered for Otto Graham, Lou Groza, Jim Brown and the like. Not the people of Baltimore. Why should Baltimore have been able to claim that history. Did the people of Baltimore feel gut punched with the drive and fumble happened? No, they felt gut punched with the Mayflower trucks pulled out in the dark of night in 1984. It is a crime that Baltimore can't claim the history of Johnny Unitas. It was the people of Baltimore that cheered him not Indianapolis. Same is true with the memories of Bum Philips walking the sidelines in his Stetson and Earl Campbell running people over are Houston. That history should have stayed in Houston.

If owners want to move their organization fine, that is their right but leave the history with the fans that cherish it. Players and coaches come and go every year even ownership changes at times. The same team never plays 2 years in a row in any sport. Without the fans does any of the history and moments matter?

17 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Again. We're just going by Canzman's original format -- Jersey number correlates with the year a team last changed their city or nickname.

The Browns never changed name or city... hence they are 46. The Ravens never changed name or city hence they are 96. Also isn't exactly changing of City it is changing location name. The Cowboys changed stadium location from Dallas to  Irving to Arlington. Lions moved from Detroit to Pontiac back to Detroit. 49ers went from San Francisco to Bayview Heights to Santa Clara. Giants and Jets moved out of New York altogether for Jersey, but none of those teams made any name changes in said moves.

13 hours ago, Cujo said:

Still waiting on 46 Ravens and 99 Browns tho

Not going to happen.

11 hours ago, BBTV said:

For what it's worth, the Eagles regular white jersey was their designated "color rush" jersey, and was simply paired with the existing white pants.  Their all-black alt was just an alt, while their primary white did double duty as color rush.

Not true... From the team's official Slick from last season.

They used  all white for "color rush" when the match-up was deemed to not have enough contrast with the home team by the league.

One thing many people forget is that the NFL is trying to become a global brand and expand outside the US market especially the UK which the NFL has been pushing to get a real hold in for years with the 2 to 3 UK games a year. The UK has different rules around TV broadcast that requires a license to get to view and offers both a more expense color license and a black and white license... yes there are still people who only have black and white TVs in this world of HD and 4K. Color license in the UK cost £159.00 where as the B&W only costs £53.50. The NFL still takes the contrast on B&W TV into consideration in the match-ups.

On 7/14/2022 at 2:02 PM, NFLfan10 said:

One question that no one seems to have addressed is whether this snow tiger look will be a home or road alternate look.

Designation as home/away are not a consistent factor in today's NFL. The league doesn't classify a specific home and away look internally anymore in terms of uniforms. Uniforms are classified as color, white, alternate, throwback, and color rush.

What ever uniform the home team selects the visiting team must wear a contrasting opposite. Many teams opt to wear lighter colors at home be they white or an alternate early in the season, and some opt to wear white at home almost exclusively. The only exception to this was during the mandatory color rush time frame when we saw color vs. color but those only happened if there was enough contrast.

Last year as an example the Browns debuted the Alternate all white 46 throwbacks. They wore them first at home against Chicago and then again on Christmas in Green Bay.

So to answer the question these will be similar to those and just be an alternate look and where/when they wear them is anyone's guess at this point.

Current all white option paired with a white helmet and the white helmet paired with the previous color rush jersey but current white pant.

1 minute ago, NFLfan10 said:

https://www.bengals.com/history/white-bengal
 

Is this really all we’re getting today?

yep... looks that way.
Bengals going white but no images of said helmet nor how exactly it will be paired.... 
 

Bengals going white but no images of said helmet nor how exactly it will be paired....
https://www.bengals.com/history/white-bengal

3 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said:

I'm guessing that, despite whatever rules are in place, the Bengals will wear a white alt helmet with an all white uniform. Maybe just their previous color rush?

That might be their workaround by going back to previous the color rush jersey and pair with the current white and black pants.

No known alternate white jersey is known. So based on that and the fact that the alternate shell has to be paired with an alt, throwback or color rush here are all the possible Bengals options paired with the 2 orange alternate combos they currently have.

1 hour ago, sudden said:

According to this tweet and embedded link, the announcement for Cincy’s new helmet should be coming. Looks like white to complete the “snow tiger” look.

 

 

So the survey shows that the fans overwhelming choice is the white helmet with black stripes, but the desired all white snow cat look isn't possible in 2022 from what options we know the teams has.

Keep in mind the NFL states that the alternate shell can only be paired with an alternate jersey, throwback or color rush. They currently to my knowledge do not have a throwback ready and available to go with "original option" have no alternate white jersey. 

The only way the Bengals complete the "Snow cat" look is if the also announce a new alternate white jersey. Their only option with any alternate shell in 2022 is it  with the orange alt jersey and a black and white helmet with that makes very little sense.

Also with how they list them are they saying the options are a black helmet with white stripes, and a white helmet with orange stripes?