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Arrogance of the "fanbase". Their sense of entitlement. General snobbery.

The whole thing just rubs me the wrong way. It happens.

Also, yea... frogs do suck...

I want the team to go anywhere but Quebec...

Don't get me wrong, as a Devils fan, this s**t concerns me...

...but we're not even in the same galaxy as the Phoenix or Long Island situations.

Once the Devils get rid of the dead-weight Ray Chambers, we'll be fine. The squabble between Vanderbeek and Chambers is what's causing this hiccup.

The Devils will be fine and they're not moving anywhere. Look elsewhere, canuckleheads...

2011 Texas A&M Women's Basketball National Championship Ring. I haven't seen a pic of the other side of the ring yet.

That's huge for a woman's ring...

I am concerned...

Rutgers needs to get out now. If the every want to try and be a reasonable college football program, they need to get out now.

I'd say if it helps the Devils out of existence, then it's fine by me.

Awwww, isn't that cute...

Looking into my crystal ball... (or beer bottle, whatever)

This is my vision of the "Big 4" conferences in college football in ten years time. There obviously will still be smaller conferences, but these schools will run the show.

..or not. I was just bored at work.

SEC

Florida

Georgia

Louisville

Kentucky

South Carolina

Tennessee

Vanderbilt

Alabama

Arkansas

Auburn

LSU

Mississippi

Mississippi State

Texas

Texas A&M

Virginia Tech

PAC-16

California

Oregon

Oregon State

Stanford

UCLA

USC

Washington

Washington State

Arizona

Arizona State

Colorado

Kansas

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Texas Tech

Utah

ACC

Boston College

Connecticut

Florida State

Maryland

Syracuse

West Virginia

Duke

Georgia Tech

Miami

North Carolina

North Carolina State

Virginia

Clemson

Wake Forest

BIG 10

Iowa

Rutgers

Missouri

Pittsburgh

Michigan

Michigan State

Nebraska

Notre Dame

Illinois

Indiana

Minnesota

Northwestern

Ohio State

Penn State

Purdue

Wisconsin

Again, nothing personal, but I have to wonder who the real "losers" are here.

The people that had their intellectual property stolen.

The people's who I.P. it is already got paid. The theft is taking the cash out of the corporation's pockets, not the artist.

It really is amazing to see how many people have been on here and said the exact same thing Kevin says. Dozens and dozens of members with the exact same issues and excuses and apologies.

It's almost like a sociology experiment in here...

The Lightning did it too:

Don't opponent logos usually appear on Super Bowl rings too?

The most surprising thing about that ring?

The Islanders were in the Playoffs...

Never buy knock-offs online.

Buy them at your local flea market or underhand sports store/mob front...

I love those Giants rings. I also dug the White Sox rings, though.

Understated for championship rings, yes, but nice...

I don't disagree, but when you out-price a product, people will find alternatives, legal or not.

Infared, that makes no sense. Those are my logos that i have made and havn't given the rights away to.

With the NFL and such, the artists already made their money.

If you cannot understand what's wrong with intellectual property theft then there's no hope for you, frankly.

Do the designers get residual payments for every jersey with their logo or design sold?

Or are they payed a one-time fee for their work?

Never buy a knock-off online... Make sure you can see what you're getting before you get it. Flea Markets are the best place to buy knock-offs, and the quality there is usually very, very good.

I believe it's much like Prohibition.. illegal to make and sell, not illegal to purchase and consume...

It's legal to buy a bootleg jersey. It's not legal to produce the jersey.

I'd rather pay for a $40 dollar jersey from Chang's Discount Booth at the Flea Market that has the same or better quality than what the official retailers are putting out there for $200+. Simple as that.

Is it ethically right? Perhaps not, but my wallet makes that decision.

That's all anyone's really asking here. If you understand the law, if you understand the concept of IP rights and you still decide to buy a counterfeit then that's your call.

Right. I couldn't care less if you buy the jersey or not, as long as you don't act like there's not only nothing wrong with it, but you're some kind of crusader against the big bad businesses who are destroying society by selling sports jerseys at a certain price point.

Not trying to act like a crusader... I just want a cheaper priced jersey i can fit into... I can't buy Legit jerseys anyways, cause they don't make them in my super fat & tall guy size. Casual Male is getting better at this, but they're VERY limited on NHL uniforms. So, i have to look elsewhere...

So what you're saying is that sports should only be for those who can afford it? Otherwise, you're excluded?

Welcome to the free-market economy. Glad to have you on board. This is why I go to Blackhawks games once or twice a year instead of having season tickets, and why my seats are in the 300 level instead of on the glass. This is why I drive a Dodge Stratus instead of a Bugatti Veyron. If there are things out there which you can't afford, you're always free to explore avenues which may lead you to acquire more wealth and personal property.

In the meantime, I'll just bask in the glow of the stupefying irony of you, of all people, calling for entitlements.

The point of that, Sodboy, was saying there ARE avenues for me to aquire sports jerseys. They are outside of the official retailers, but they are there to be had at a price cheaper than the competition. Now i wouldn't buy a knockoff that was as awful as some of the examples in this thread, but many knockoffs are quite good, as in the number fonts are correct, the nameplates are correct, even the NFL Equipment shield is correct. I'm not saying people should be entitles to get all the expensive things they want. No one has that right, and i'm not calling for entitlements. All i'm saying is that if there is a cheaper way to get the same product, don't bust my balls about it...

...and Pizzaman, i'm Unaffiliated...

So what you're saying is that sports should only be for those who can afford it? Otherwise, you're excluded?

Never said i was entitled to a jersey, that i HAVE to be provided with one. But if my poor-ass wants a jersey, i'm going with one i can afford, and that is of equal-to-better quality than the "authentics".

There is no reason to pay $160+ for a jersey just because you can buy it at Modells. Not only that, i'm a really tall, fat bastard. The "Authentics" don't come in my size. My Chinese sweat-shoppers care about the fat, over-fed American sports fan in a way Reebok does not...

I'd rather pay for a $40 dollar jersey from Chang's Discount Booth at the Flea Market that has the same or better quality than what the official retailers are putting out there for $200+. Simple as that.

Is it ethically right? Perhaps not, but my wallet makes that decision.

I'd like a Giants jersey. I can spend an ridiculous amount on one that is ill-fitting and looks like ƨhiŧ, or i can spend 4 times less, and get a jersey that fits pretty well and looks better?

You're out your damn mind if you think i'm going to buy the "Official" jersey to help the awful system of charging people high prices for crap merchandise stay afloat. When the big 4 leagues & their uniform manufacturers start putting out a product worth $200+, i'll pay that price for it. Until then? Reebrok it is.

Want to throw me in jail for that? Throw the cuffs on, you self-rightious, ivory tower assh*les...

why cant people just buy from real retailers?

Because we can't afford the "real" thing...