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Any league that would entertain having the Maloofs as owners gets what it deserves.

I was thinking the same thing. It would have more credibility to me if it was Larry Brooks' story because it's The Post and all... but that said the sports section is usually pretty accurate as is Page Six but the rest of the paper is pretty dubious. Of course you'd see some strong language refuting it the whole trying to sell tickets thing...yeah, who are we kidding it's Glendale they're refuting it so that lady from the city council meeting won't lay into them like she did to the mayor.

Yeah, they'll be fine. Islanders fans could've sold out their local building for years to create demand... & did not.

Besides, it's not like they're moving to Las Vegas or Seattle.

Ownership didn't give us much reason to show up for close to two decades unlike Leafs or Cubs fans (many of whom are full on masochists) most people won't show up if the product put out for consumption is garbage especially when done so for years.

Yeah, they'll be fine. Islanders fans could've sold out their local building for years to create demand... & did not.

Besides, it's not like they're moving to Las Vegas or Seattle.

Well, it could've helped if the Islanders had more than 3 or so good seasons since 1995 to create some demand among the non-diehards, but alas..

I mean, I'm fine with the move to Brooklyn because hey, it's not Kansas City or Vegas! But you can already see a disconnect between older fans like my father and the team with the move to Brooklyn and that they're already saying they're not going to games. On the brighter side, though, the Islanders fanbase has grown with the younger adult crowd in the past 3 seasons. And given us young adult Long Islanders already are taking the LIRR for a night on the town to Manhattan/Rockville Centre/The Hamptons for a Sunday Funday at Bordy Barn anyway, I don't think the move to Brooklyn will be a problem for us younger folks. So there's still that bright side, but even still a large chunk of the fanbase isn't going to make the trip to Barclays.

All that said, I still think we're looking at a move back to Nassau after they get this renovation done like 5 years from now and Ratner, et al. decide the move to Barclays didn't work as well as they thought so they'll bring them back to their other property in the new Coliseum.

I've never been fine with the move because it all was so preventable. I'd rather they be in Brooklyn than Seattle but at the same time they're now second fiddle in the city. I wonder if the Islanders are going to be looked at in a similar way to the Nets but only time will tell there. I've been noticing the disconnect for awhile and while I can't say I wouldn't go to a game in Brooklyn it's a lot less convenient for me when I'm back on the Island. Why spend $19 r/t for the LIRR when I could drive 15-20 minutes and pay $12 to park in the Coliseum lot? The one question I have even for the younger set is will you be willing to take on that added expense (or that of driving and parking in Brooklyn) as opposed to what it was? Since I don't get to see the local marketing I also wonder if any of it is focused on Long Island at all or is it all now focused to the city?

One thing that's interesting is that when I was growing up there was a generational gap in a sense that most of my friends are Islander fans because there's always been a team but their parents are Ranger fans because that's what was there and there were no Islanders. Now there's a new generational disconnect.

As for moving back to a renovated Nassau...I love your optimism but I don't see it happening. Bettman was quoted in Newsday the other day saying he'd heard a lot of plans from the County to try and keep the team in Uniondale but nothing came to fruition and they'd had a long time to get things done. I don't agree with him on a lot but I think he's right on this. Going way back to the late 80's and into the early 90's the building was falling apart and the County failed to even do basic maintenance let alone any type of renovation or new building. I think it's safe to say too that unless you're Atlanta, Colorado or Winnipeg once your team leaves it's nearly impossible to get back so I think if Barclay's doesn't work out then they very well may be in Seattle or Kansas City or someplace like that.

And who the heck are these LI'ers who take the train (I'm guessing from other points on the Island) to Rockville Centre for a night on the town and where do they come from? I mean RVC is nice but I wouldn't make a special trip on the LIRR to go there.

They have like a 20 or 25 year lease at Barclays.

Leases always have some way out of them even if it costs a bit to do so.

I wish they could've found a way to stay in that area, but they had literal decades to figure it out.

I know they went through the thing with Spano and Wang was a wang and Long Island's politics are a maze of red tape, but still they should've been able to make it happen. The Barclays Center is not a suitable hockey venue.

...the ownership issues went back at least to the late 80's (maybe '87 or '88) which didn't help anything get done earlier. To save from writing the usual tome that no one would read Wang made some gross miscalculations and put all of his eggs in the wrong basket. They could have had a new arena and I have it on about as good authority as one can get that if Wang proposed an arena and not the lighthouse abomination this series would have been played in the new arena. A new NVMC should have happened and all this aside and maybe for no rational reason I feel as though there is going to be a disconnect between the current fan base and the franchise once this playoff ride is over almost like we're not going to be welcome in Barclay's.

A big part of me would love to see AEG buy Barclay's mutually decide to void the lease with the new Islanders owners and they get a new building in the parking lot of the Coliseum.

Honestly, I don't think you're owed an explanation at all. Moderators moderate forum content. If they deem it to be put into a thread that is related to the tragic incident then it is within their right to do so. You don't have a right to post whatever you want whenever you want. The owner of this forum can restrict whatever is said through his proxies however he wishes to do so. They don't need to PM you to tell you why they can move or even delete content as they wish.

I go to about 10 to 15 games a season in Oakland and I have to agree wholeheartedly with that analysis. Spot on.

A Rangers uniform is the wrong one for all of these guys:

Guy Lafleur

Marcel Dionne

Pat Flatley

Pavel Bure

Ray Ferraro

*** JETS #22 HAND-ME-DOWN SPECIAL ***

Ed Reed - Jets

Danny Woodhead - Jets

Ty Law - Jets

The Jets are a littany of people in the wrong uniform since they love signing washed up "names." It almost isn't fair. Outside of Curtis Martin, Al Toon, and Joe Namath does anyone really look RIGHT in a Jets uniform?

Wayne Chrebet

Marty Lyons

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=394988

While the Phoenix Coyotes continue their battle on the ice, the team's fight off the ice appears to be on a winning course.

ESPN.com and TSN Hockey Analyst Pierre LeBrun is reporting that the Coyotes could be nearing a sale, which would keep the team in Phoenix.

Wasn't April 1st last month?

I want more pictures of crappy merchandise.

I did see a few new Lightning jerseys for sale at a local flea market today. Wonder how they got them so fast...

Next time I go to S&T I'll make sure to bring the camera and snap off a bunch of pics.

Eh, if you look at my home IP address, I think it comes up as East Rutherford or Plainfield NJ or something like that, which is no where near where I actually live (Center City Philadelphia.)

Right, but if the Feds were to go after him they would go through the service provider to pinpoint his exact location, no matter what size the city was.

So the feds are going to waste resources to locate me, arrest me, and prosecute me for owning about 5 fake jerseys. I have never made a dime off of them, the cases that get prosecuted are the ones involving the sales of hundreds and thousands, not possessing. People have asked me why I wouldn't sell them at 3 or 4 times what I pay, it is because then I would leave myself open to a legitimate lawsuit. They would also need to prove who has been typing these messages.

You may be designers but you are not very bright when it comes to the law and it's reaches. Stick with what you know which is apparently criticizing other mens choice in clothing,

You're not very bright when it comes to the law either...

I was directed to this thread by one of the guys I get jerseys for, we both think you are all hilarious. I have several china jerseys and they have all stood up to multiple washes and look great for the price. I feel no shame depriving the leagues of my money in this case. I go to several games a year, pay for center ice, sunday ticket ect... The way players change teams and teams change designs I will continue to do this.

Might want to revisit this bit of info from a shop owner in my town who "got jerseys" for other guys...

http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/press/apr022.pdf

Hope that works out well for you

I don't make any money off selling the jerseys, my friends pay what I pay. I just do the ordering. The case you referenced is irrelevant to me, I don't make a nickel off my friends, and I do not operate any sort of store. I am not doing anything illegal.

Think again Einstein. You do not have to profit nor operate any type of store to be trafficking...

So I just got back from China. It's not surprising that so many knock-off jerseys are made there, as IP theft isn't really respected anywhere, at all. I saw tons of adisad, Kapap (or Kampa), Nokla, Samsing, Polo USA, Apple mp4, Epad and a million other similar products freely available from what looked like reputable storefronts. That's not to say you can't find the real stuff -- there are plenty of high-end shopping centers (at least there were in Beijing and Shanghai) that sell the real stuff. However, it's such a small percentage of China's population that can purchase items at those stores that it hardly matters.

I passed on an Arsenal kit/short combo that was offered at 100 CNY, or about $15 (the original price was 420 CNY/$64). I probably could have purchased two together at that price. Interestingly, there were tons of soccer and basketball jerseys available; I didn't see any NFL or NHL fakes about.

If you had gone to the market at the Science and Technology museum in Shanghai there are two stores there that have a lot of NHL fakes on display. Haven't seen much in the way of anything NFL (legit or counterfeit) in the time I've been in Shanghai.

I now live in China and there are multiple stores in the largest market in town that sell these fakes and I'll say this much, for China they're not all that cheap. Cheap for the US, sure but not cheap for the average Chinese. In the three or four times I've been to that market I've never seen anyone near those shops who didn't appear to be westerners. The only jersey I've seen a Chinese wear was a Kobe Bryant jersey and even then I've only seen one.