Sodboy13

Take it for what's it worth....

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"There is never smoke without fire, but when you see flames, it becomes downright plain."

"I can tell you, in fact, you CONFIRM that Quebec City will have his NHL team next season."

More fun with Google Translate, from the comments:

I hope you're right! The city is on fire!

Don't even have the team yet, and they're already acting like they lost in the postseason. Now that's a Canadian hockey market!

The Quebec Citadelles an NHL ready look.

That was a brilliant identity all-around. Shame that it was relatively short-lived.

Sorry if it's been mentioned, but does Seattle have an arena that's viable even as a 1 or 2 year holdover until they can build a new one? Actually, is that plan still even moving forward?

Yeah, KeyArena is just not good.

No, that's Moordix.

But they were going to build such a beautiful facility in Dixmoor...

I don't think he understands how the internet works, to be honest.

Do Blackhawks fans travel to Phoenix in droves like the Red Wings fans do?

They've been de facto home games the past few years. I think there are also lots of transplants in the area; Bears-Cardinals games in Tempe tended to be awash in navy and orange.

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:

I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?

The licensed product if I had the available funds. If not maybe I'd get a t-shirt/sweat shirt or two of my favorite team.

Right. I think the problem lies in the fact that the vast majority of the sports-apparel-purchasing population is ignorant to the devil in the details. They just go "Oh, it's so cheap because it comes right from the overseas supplier," or "it's a great deal on eBay," and they don't notice the difference in details or quality, no matter how glaring we jersey nerds may find it. I have a friend who bought several baseball jerseys from a bootleg site, and he had me take a look at them. I pointed out the inaccuracies in design and construction I saw, but they were things he - and probably 99% of the non-obsessive public outside of this board - wouldn't notice.

The problem here is on several fronts. Jersey prices keep spiraling upward at a time when most people's paychecks are not, the jersey is now seen as an "essential" accessory of sports fandom in a way it wasn't 10 or 20 years ago, and teams and leagues (except for the Canadiens) haven't gotten out in front of this. They haven't marketed directly to fans to explain why that $50 jersey on eBay isn't "worth it", and seem to be ignoring the revenue problem that's filling their arenas nightly.

I don't think the average consumer is like loogodude, who is just Hard Trollin' at this point. But many are ignorant to the problem, and I think teams and leagues need to do a far better job addressing it.

Kill. It. With. Fire.

They've got just enough money to buy the team another year of league ownership in the desert.

Jamison, Jamieson, let's call the whole thing off.

Wait a minute. Hasn't it already come to light that Greg Jamison was never interested, but that the potential ownership group was being led by Kelowna businessman Gary Jamieson? Is Roenick bull ing that hardcore?

Time to interject with a terrible HFBoards idea I saw!

That's why I suggested Wang should sell the Islanders to Quebec then buy the Devils and the team would now be called Unified Newark/Long Island! One common enemy: the Rangers! It would be crazy to have all those championship banners for one team.

And now, for my next impression: Don Cornelius.

Nets games until April.

Gary Bettman wants to own it, and he gets to without having to front any of his own money.

Hockey, why ya gotta treat me so bad?

I think it's a combination of factors at work here.

1) Not enough people in the accepted national sports conversation care about who might own the Phoenix Coyotes, or any NHL franchise, for that matter;

2) Those who do care long ago realized that "potential Coyotes owner" carries roughly the same amount of likelihood as an HFBoards trade proposal;

3) So many names and groups have been tossed around so haphazardly in this prolonged mess, Elaine Scruggs & Gary Bettman could hold a joint presser tomorrow announcing the Coyotes had been tentatively sold to a group of leprechauns for 17 pots of gold on the condition that an O'Charley's gets built at Westgate, and you'd find very few eyebrows raised.

In other words, for anyone who cares, there's probably a fair bit of fatigue and resignation. Why bother looking into who might buy the Coyotes? They're not going to buy them anyway.

That quote just seems incomplete somehow without "Ron Paul 2012" thrown in there somewhere.

This jersey was designed by Jacob Barrette, the same guy that "helped with" the Sens' third jersey.

http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/11/2/winnipeg-jets-bridging-the-gap.html

Attention concept creators: Make a concept you're really proud of, sucker Icethetics into featuring it, and you'll be able to get a hard copy for $50 in a couple months' time.

This one is fantastic because the counterfeiters are probably gonna lose money on it.

If you don't mind my asking, who are Travis Hughes and Ryan Lambert? Hockey bloggers that I don't care about?

Definitely the case with Ryan Lambert, Puck Daddy's resident smug, uninformed contrarian. Only time he's come off as halfway-decent is when he pitted himself against John "Ovi's on steroids because his mom lived in Russia in the '70s" Stiegerwald, who is pretty much one of the worst sports people around.

If the Blues get sent to Quebec to keep this farce alive, I'm going down to Glendale with a sledgehammer and turning the Jobberdome into a parking lot my damn self.

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Oh man, in this thread, of all places.

So 6,000 for an AHL game means a city should be on the short list of places to go but a Coyotes-like 9800 in Kansas City for an exhibition game means salting the earth there? Oh, also ignore that the place was sold out for the most recent game there and was sold out ahead of the event.

(Not meant to anyone specifically. There just seems to be a lot of awful logic in this entire thread.)

Taking two different things said by two different people and making them into one argument tends to yield awful logic. Kansas City isn't off the list because of a one-off lackluster exhibition; it's off the list because no one has wanted to pay to put a team there since Boots Del Biaggio, which means that no one has wanted to pay to put a team there, ever. And AEG is reportedly filling arena dates for Sprint Center without much problem despite the closest thing to an anchor tenant being the (baaaahahaha) Command of the Arena League.

Does anyone familiar with the area know if the Arena District in Kansas City has stopped sucking yet? I thought I heard things around there were kinda dire.

No city needs a hockey team, or any pro sports franchise, for that matter. It is simply a question of want. Houstonians have liked their Aeros enough to keep the team going relatively strong for 18 seasons, but there is a gaping gulf between minor-league sustainability and major-league success. For now, the money doesn't appear to be there.

Houston has an NHL-caliber arena, but no local major sports ownership has expressed serious interest in bringing NHL hockey to town.

Hartford doesn't have a suitable arena (smaller than Winnipeg's and 30 years older), nor does it have anyone with the necessary funding interested in any form of sports ownership in the market. All it has is a minor-league-caliber owner trying to ride a wave of nostalgia for all it's worth.