dfwabel
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The second round of bidding for the FOX RSNs are due today. MLB is reportedly one of the major bidders.
Meanwhile, Amazon is only interested in YES Network.
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1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:
You're not understanding what I'm saying at all. I'm not suggesting breaking from NCAA. I'm suggesting that the NCAA just make (for FOOTBALL ONLY)
- Division 1 (the big 5 conference teams)
- Division 2 (the rest of the current FBS schools)
- Division 3 (the FCS schools)
- Division 4 (current Division 2)
- Division LOL (everyone else)
Schools could potentially be "promoted" if a big 5 conference wants to add them, but I'm not suggesting a promotion/relegation system, as that would cause a million times more cheating than even what goes on now.
Bolded #1: There's the possibility that the new "Division 2 and 3" just refuse to play the new Division 1 and force that group of 65 schools to just schedule among themselves and it would be 6 home and 6 away games. That is lost revenue not only from two or three fewer home games, but it's also likely to cost them more to pay a fellow member to play an away game.
Bolded #2: Antitrust cases are common for the NCAA attorneys and another division split may cause another headache. Even in 2009, during the middle of the BCS, the then Power 6, were eventually looking at an antitrust trial, but the CFP was formed and more $$$ went to the lesser conferences combined with access to at least one CFP bowl game.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=4030992Even if they remained in the NCAA, some of the issues brought up in this 2013 USA Today story would remain:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/04/21/college-football-ncaa-split/2097115/
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17 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:
Why? They'd still be in NCAA, it's just that only they are in D1, and the rest of D1 is now D something else.
I mean, they should leave NCAA and the whole NCAA deserves to crumble to the ground, but I still don't understand why they can't be in their own division still within NCAA.
The Power 5 is 65 teams in itself, so it would be its own division. Those basketball tournament games and the betting interest would be less interesting than the status quo with "basketball only" conferences like the Big East, A-10, WCC in the mix. There wouldn't be a Gonzaga, Villanova, or Loyola (not to just name Catholic-related institutions).
If they did a clean break, it would cost them more money overall because they'd basically start up a new business, with staff, brick and mortar HQ costs, and the entire process of making up their own rules/bylaws. Getting those 65 school chancellors/presidents to decide on where the HQ would be is a debate, I would like to see along with the pitches from cities to go along with it.
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1 minute ago, BringBackTheVet said:
You'd also have a clearer picture of who's good and who's not, because 5 teams aren't 11-1 with multiple 50+ point wins against Dixie State et al.
I don't see anything wrong with a 7-4 team making the playoff if they're playing all big 5 teams. Seems like it would be more competitive for everyone.
A breakaway would also end the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament and March Madness as we know it. That's also too much money to leave on the table.
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12 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:
Since the big 5 conferences are really the only ones that always have a good chance at the playoffs and pretty much control everything, why don't they just make "Division 1" just those conferences, and have what's left of current FBS just be their own division?
Those five conferences were already given autonomy in 2014. Plus, if they were their own division, they would only play against themselves and more coaches would get fired for being 7-5. It would also cost athletic departments more overall to schedule opponents since everyone's budgets have the same needs.
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11 minutes ago, Digby said:
Odds that Sinclair sticks to sports?
They do with Tennis Channel and Stadium.
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"New FOX" will not bid to buy the RSNs back from Disney per a 8-K filing.
And apparently, Sinclair was the only bidder for all of them.
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9 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:
never heard of Dixie State so I just looked it up on Wikipedia and read this:
"The university offers 1 master's degree, 41 bachelor's degrees, 15 associate degrees,..."
ONE MASTER'S DEGREE? ONE? This is a serious university? Isn't 41 bachelor's degrees a small number too?
" the university has a 100% acceptance rate" - WTF??? They literally accept anyone?
This is pretty cool though:
"The Trailblazers' mascot is Brooks the Bison," ... "The mascot is named after the first student in the institution's history, Samuel Brooks, who slept on the steps outside what was then St. George Stake Academy to be the first to pay the $10 tuition the next morning. The descended family of Samuel Brooks sat in the stands and was recognized when Brooks first arrived in the stadium."
Yep. Weber State is 100% as well. Utah State and Wyoming isn't far behind at 97% and 96% respectively.
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2 minutes ago, Digby said:
Cool, thanks y'all. New FOX is mostly a national television concern.
That and the new company is essentially no longer producing entertainment content/programming and distributing content. FOX will be the only broadcast TV network not affiliated with a movie studio
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31 minutes ago, NYUNDERDOGS said:
I heard that Fox was keeping FS1 and FS2, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
"New FOX" basically consists of: Fox Broadcasting (the OTA channel which airs "The Simpsons" and NFL), the 28 Fox Television Stations they already own (mostly in NFL markets), Fox News Channel, Fox Business, FS1/2, the Big Ten Network and Fox Deportes.
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I did not realize until this week that NBCSN took Feld's Monster Energy SuperCross and MonsterJam away from FOX/FS1.
Gosh, with the UFC headed to ESPN/+ now, FOX/FS1 has even less, but it may allow them to agree to the XFL.
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I thought this was most appropriate here.
Per The Oregonian, Pac 12 may sell a 10% stake in the conference's broadcast rights, sponsorship rights, merchandising and all other commercial assets for $500M to private equity.
QuoteThe “Pac-12 NewCo” plan was introduced to the conference presidents and chancellors at their mid-November meeting and was subsequently discussed in a conference call in December, per sources. Private investors would own 10 percent equity in the newly formed entity in exchange for a $500 million investment.
A six-page document obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive outlines the plan presented by conference commissioner Larry Scott to his bosses during the November meeting of the “Pac-12 CEO Group.”
The document outlines the conference’s current lagging media rights projections and introduces an ambitious plan that involves taking on a strategic private investor.
The conference’s broadcast rights, sponsorship rights, merchandising and all other commercial assets would be consolidated under the umbrella of “Pac-12 NewCo.” The conference would retain 90 percent of the equity.
The strategic plan documents include a chart outlining the current and projected media-rights distributions. It reads, “based on the Pac-12’s current media rights deals and making conservative assumptions going forward, we estimate that a Capitalized NewCo could be valued at approximately $5 billion to $8.5 billion.”
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2 hours ago, MBurmy said:
I just wish UW-Whitewater would move up to at LEAST D2...
Why? The additional cost for salaries and scholarships isn't worth it. DII isn't an increase in prestige especially when the school is hindered by the amount of academic aid. Unless a player has a 3.5 grade point average or a 25 on the ACT, his academic scholarship money counts toward the 36-scholarship limit. Federal aid doesn't count to the scholarship limit.
DIII has been helped in the last four years by now being able to offer financial aid packages in the Fall of a student's senior year of HS, as opposed to waiting until his family's W-2 and/or 1099 from the current year.
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On 12/13/2018 at 3:55 PM, DG_Now said:
NBC's PL coverage may be the best show coverage of any sport in the US. NBA on TNT is great for different reasons, but that's more if you like watching hosts be cruel to each other.
NBC covers the Premier League really well, but IMO the standard is CBS's PGA Tour coverage, especially during the week of a Major.
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5 hours ago, MadmanLA said:
You and me both...if you really break it down to its core, the Fox-NFL TV deal changed the entire American TV business forever. At the same time you had stations that not only defecting to Fox, but to an lesser extent, ABC and NBC were also either working on keeping its longtime affiliations together as well, and in some cases, locking-up group-wide affiliations between the station groups and networks. I've done my share of reading and research on this stuff for years...of all the NFC markets at the time (and remember that Fox's first year of NFL coverage was also the final season the Rams [and Raiders] played in greater Los Angeles), Phoenix was probably the most affected, because four of its major commercial TV stations were involved, and each of them either swapped, lost, or a gained a network affiliation:
KTVK Channel 3: ABC to independent
KPHO 5: independent to CBS
KSAZ 10: CBS to Fox
KNXV 15: Fox to ABC
Channel 15 was/still is owned by the E.W. Scripps Company, and Scripps signed a group-wide affiliation deal with ABC around 1994, mainly to keep ABC on its Detroit (WXYZ) and Cleveland (WEWS) stations. This same deal also saw KNXV and two other Scripps-owned Fox affiliates (KSHB Kansas City and WFTS Tampa) go to ABC, while Cincinnati's WCPO went from CBS to ABC. The Scripps-ABC agreement, in turn, also played a huge role in the Big Three network affiliates in both Baltimore and Denver conducting three-way swaps:
Baltimore: WMAR-2, NBC to ABC; WBAL-11, CBS to NBC; WJZ-13, ABC to CBS
Denver: KCNC-4, NBC to CBS; KMGH-7, CBS to ABC; KUSA-9, ABC to NBC
(Scripps-owned at the time)
CBS and NBC also conducted business between each other during that same mid-90s time frame, mostly trading stations for each other--Philadelphia's WCAU-10 went from being CBS-owned to NBC-owned, while CBS got back in exchange NBC's Denver (the aforementioned KCNC) and Salt Lake City (KUTV) stations, and the two networks also traded station frequencies in Miami (NBC's WTVJ moving from channel 4 to 6, and CBS' WCIX-6 becoming WFOR-4).
Tampa had a four channel change too:
WTVT: CBS to Fox
WTSP: ABC to CBS
WTOG: Fox back to Independent
WFTS: Independent to ABC
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4 hours ago, the admiral said:
I'm fascinated by the NFL's TV realignment in the '90s, particularly how the Packers moving from CBS to Fox meant channel 6 in Milwaukee did the same, leaving the market CBS-less for a few months until channel 58 (that high!) took over. Also, NBC's successive losses of the AFC and Seinfeld made them go all in on the awful Friends, and with too much money tied up in Friends, NBC cheaply filled programming hours with reality shows, one of them starring that one guy.
If CBS didn't poach baseball from NBC, maybe lots of bad things don't happen.
Same thing occurred in Detroit as they bought Channel 62 and they still don't have a News Division.
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42 minutes ago, pianoknight said:
At the risk of activating the Title IX Social Justice Warriors, women's basketball is a no-go for conference realignment. Men's basketball is a considerably bigger financial success, but pretty much every major basketball program runs at a deficit and has to be subsidized by football or the university/academia/taxpayers.
The top five revenue-earning men's basketball programs are Louisville ($46m) Duke ($31m), Kentucky and Syracuse ($27m each) and Indiana ($23m).
By comparison, the top five NCAAF programs are Texas A&M ($148m), Texas ($133m), Michigan and Alabama ($127m each), and Ohio State ($120m).
Notice that the football teams are earning roughly ONE HUNDRED MILLION more in revenue per year. Granted, football has A LOT more expenses. But even the 25th ranked team for football revenue (Texas Tech) is raking in $60m per year. And remember that schools in the Big Ten and SEC are earning about ~$50m/year just for existing. Indiana might make $23m in basketball (and an untold number from football), but just for playing in the Big Ten they rake in another $50m annually. In other words, Indiana as a Big Ten "brand" is more financially lucrative than actual Indiana Basketball.
Keep in mind that B1G football and MBB both split gate receipts. Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin have some of thier football gate split within the other members and IU does it with MBB gate receipts.
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Pac 12 Network now off ATT Uverse.
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17 minutes ago, DG_Now said:
The Athletic is having a Cyber Monday sale - $24 for a year access. I signed up. Pls direct me to the race and social justice section.
Just be careful with the teams/league's you subscribe to, you get several updates every hour if you don't opt out of the alerts.
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9 hours ago, Marcos Flamengo said:
So what about my sports league realignments concepts, Mr @dfwabel?. I'm just referring to my NLL, NHL, MLB, MLL and MLS realignments!.
Since you asked me, I have think all of them are terrible since you've really never been to any of these US markets. You're just naming stations like NJTank did for his updates based on Wikipedia.
Just slow your (very limited) role.
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The were smart enough to Citadel in 2006 and signed LMAs with Cumulus a few years ago. The same Cumulus which just got out of bankruptcy.
There's little money in radio, they're going back in regardless of the you knowing the call letters.
This is more pointless than any sports realignment concept.
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3 hours ago, Marcos Flamengo said:
What if Disney/ABC would form a new radio network:
They are smart enough not to and won't.
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At the 1h 18 minute mark, when discussing the talents/qualities needed if two successful athletes had a sports lovechild, it was Gladwell who said, "we're engaging in the most reprehensible form of genetic generalizations, nonetheless".
Yet Simmons was very eager to got back into that bear trap saying, "No, I'm just thinking what's the best blend of those two parents."
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RSN bids were lower than expected