Seadragon76
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1 hour ago, rams80 said:
Grand Canyon's a huge private for-profit with a larger online diploma mill program. Also, it has historically been a bit evangelical. The WCC may have tolerated adding BYU as a marriage of convenience, but they might get skittish about adding Grand Canyon's academic profile in the event that BYU left.
They're also looking into shedding that for profit label by becoming a non profit school once again. Also, the evangelical label didn't exactly stop them from adding Pacific to the fold.
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I don't think St. Mary's is going to jump ship. The WCC has been very strong as of late and it would be damn near suicide to leave now.
If Gonzaga and BYU jump ship, the WCC should look at Seattle (a former WCC member who wants back) and I think they ought to take a look at Grand Canyon. It's a private school as well, so it would fit within the scope of the WCC. It would also expand the footprint into the Phoenix area. Not to mention that the Antelopes have a ready made fan base that is accustomed to winning.
As for New Mexico State... yeah, the Mountain West ought to look at adding them in because it's far easier to have an even number of teams in a conference then it is to have an odd number of teams.
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It's a "What if" scenario @LMU. Not to mention that Bakersfield will be in the WAC until 2020... this would give the WAC time to replace Bakersfield and possibly UMKC and Chicago State (The rumor going around is that UMKC wants back in the Summit and Chicago State is in dire straits financially)
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On 11/27/2017 at 1:18 PM, dfwabel said:
Cal State-Bakersfield and UCSD to the Big West.
The move makes sense in the idea that the Big West would love to have an equal amount of Cal State schools and UC schools. Hawaii is the outlier program.
What Bakersfield is doing can go two different ways:
1.) The WAC adds members to help shore up the numbers. The problem is that it's not known if there are any schools out west that would be willing to jump on a ship that has been leaking for years.
or...
2.) The WAC finally crumbles under the weight of staying alive. UMKC and Chicago State head to the Summit while UTRGV goes to the Southland. The remaining four schools ally with the Big Sky.. this would create a rather unwisely choice of a 15 team conference. Knowing their history, the WAC and Big Sky decides to create a new strategy: The two league will split along it's lines to be the new leagues. The west coast schools would be the WAC and the mountain schools would be the Big Sky. Here's how that would work.
WAC
-California Baptist
-Eastern Washington
-Idaho
-Idaho State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State
-Seattle
(UC Davis and Cal Poly replace California Baptist and Seattle for football)
Big Sky
-Grand Canyon
-Montana
-Montana State
-New Mexico State
-Northern Arizona
-Northern Colorado
-Southern Utah
-Weber State
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14 minutes ago, dfwabel said:
It's Hampton.
Really? I thought they were doing just fine and dandy in the MEAC.
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That's a pretty good move on the part of the Big South to add in USC Upstate. Like you mentioned, they fit in pretty well in a geographic sense.
The other move... maybe Liberty is jumping ship or could it be an additional school joining the conference? Who knows.
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I decided to do a little snooping around after seeing this for the first time... @sc49erfan15 mentioned that one of the schools is a for-profit school, which would fit for Salem. The other school MUST be a football playing school since they're going to lose Liberty and the rumor mill rolling about the possible fate of Presbyterian's football team.
There's talks or Tarleton State in Texas moving up, but that's far from the Big South.
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5 hours ago, RichO said:
Was this the one? March Madness by Avalon Hill
I had this.
A good chunk of paper route money went to various Avalon Hill sports games. Statis Pro Baseball, Superstar Baseball, Statis Pro Basketball, and Bowl Bound.
That was the one.
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Has anyone mentioned they're missing the logos for the two new Carolina League teams?
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I remember one of the college basketball games that 2K Sports did and they had placeholder schools for the few that opted out. Can't remember what game and which schools though.
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2 hours ago, BlackBolt3 said:
IUPUI has 3 days to make this transition?!?!?
Sure... it makes sense in a geographical way. You have all the big cities within the Great Lakes region
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11 hours ago, Geoff said:
Nah, it's not Grand Canyon. Looks the Horizon League is heading into beautiful Indianapolis. They've invited IUPUI. They're replacing northeast Indiana but not quite Chicago with Indianapolis. Even though this isn't really about TV viewers, it's an upgrade in locale.
Doesn't make sense. They wanted a baseball school and as far as I know IUPUI doesn't have baseball. They wanted a school with some basketball pedigree and IUPUI doesn't really have that.
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Grand Canyon? OK, whoever is in charge of the Horizon League is on drugs... being that Detroit is part of the conference, I bet that's where they came from.
Since basketball and baseball are a priority of the new member, someone like IPFW would be a great fit. They fit very easily within the geographic footprint of the Horizon League and gives them a sixth baseball school.
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10 hours ago, dfwabel said:
They were never CIAA. They were SIAC with Albany St., Morehouse and the like.
Right, I goofed on that... my bad.
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1 hour ago, stumpygremlin said:
http://www.wjcl.com/article/breaking-savannah-state-athletics-to-drop-to-division-ii/9269304
According to sources, Savannah State will drop to D2 in Fall 2019.
Weird, but I'm shocked it didn't happen sooner. The HBCU's tend to have big time issues with money (Winston-Salem State is a good example of this). I'm pretty sure the CIAA would easily welcome back an old friend like them in 2019.
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In the case of Hawaii, it's all about distance. Being in the Big West greatly reduces the distance traveled by them during the conference season. Being in the WAC, especially in it's current form, would be bad for the travel budget.
Cal State Bakersfield might jump at the chance at a joint bid with UC San Diego, but I think they're pretty happy in the WAC. Both leagues are one bid leagues, so there's no real reason to jump ship, especially with the WAC at only 8 members and in danger of being one big move away from total destruction.
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Time to bring this thread back to life with news that Wichita State may leave the Missouri Valley for the American.
This has nothing to do with money, I think. It's about prestige and tournament bids. Wichita State has made the last six tournaments, yet the MVC is traditionally a one bid league unless another school does well.
If this move happens, the MVC may want to look at someone for a 10th school and I may have the solution to that... St. Louis.
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On 2/16/2017 at 7:17 PM, 4_tattoos said:
May even need to consider inviting West Georgia up from Division 2.
No. It still would put the Big South in the same pickle because a team moving up is considered ineligible. Not to mention what dfwabel said about the state placing a cap on funding via fees and the general fund.
Jacksonville and Stetson, on the other hand, don't have those hurdles to deal with.Thanks to the alliance between the Atlantic Sun and the Big South, should those two schools move up to play scholarship football, they have a home. It's a win-win for both sides.
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1 hour ago, dfwabel said:
It's a strange move, if you ask me. They don't have a FBS home (yet) and it puts the Big South in a pickle in terms of the automatic qualifier. Right now, it's just 6 schools (4 current members plus Monmouth and Kennesaw State as associates). They'll add Campbell for the 7th school (5th current member) but lose Liberty putting them back at square one.
Even with North Alabama's addition, it still means only six full time members. Maybe they might want to talk to Jacksonville and Stetson since they would have homes in the Big South.
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Of the membership, only New Mexico State, Chicago State, UTRGV (Which is a merger of UTPA and UT-Brownsville, an NAIA school) and UMKC have been D-I schools for longer then a decade. Everyone else there have moved up from either Division II or, in the case of Utah Valley, the Juco level. Basically, once the league fell apart... they needed members badly. the two mid-western schools came on in a 'any port in a storm' situation.
California Baptist joining gives the league a backup option since the rumor is that Chicago State might have to drop athletics in the near future (which might not be bad thing since the Cougars are godawful in pretty much every sport they play in) thanks the issues with the state budget. Losing Chicago State puts the league at 7 (Grand Canyon becomes a legitimate D-I school next season, which will help keep the WAC from the danger zone)... from there, who knows. There aren't many schools that want to join a league that is essentially home to the vagabonds of Division 1.
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I know it's frowned upon to bump a thread, but there is news as of late..
Last month saw the Atlantic Sun add North Alabama to the roster. (Football will play in the Big South thanks to the strategic alliance of the two leagues)
Today, another addition to Division 1 as California Baptist will join the WAC in 2018
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I had an old game that was based on March Madness... it was a simulation style game where you rolled multiple dies to score the game.
I wonder if I can find it on Google...
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What's with the crackpot nicknames, people?
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With all the mind tricks here, I wouldn't be shocked if they go with Po' Baby Owlz.
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Division 1 College Conference Realignment
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That seems like a very lateral move for Liberty. Weren't they more comfortable in the Big South?