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You get it. People are wasting their time on here arguing that the Big10 is expanding with their old ways in mind. It is all about footprints, Big10 network and fox/espn. AKA money. Nebraska is all of the proof you need. And don't give me the "they were AAU at the time they got in the conference" Yeah. well the conference knew they were going to lose that AAU status. The same people that voted them in the Big10 voted to take away their AAU status. They wanted the brand and the area. THAT is CFB today. Why? because it is now a huge moneymaker. Unlike the old days. NWO, get use to it. It will make life easier. Now some FSU news. AD pretty much says they are exploring.

Another reason why I am sold the Big10 and Big12 are not done. Also will be the reason ND never joins the ACC.

All of this is actually a great lesson on Capitalism.

I'd argue that Virginia Tech joining the ACC was a good move for them. They've been in the thick of the conference championship picture for most of their time in the ACC. That's fair, although I wasn't really thinking that far back. The whole Big East/ACC defection with Miami, VT and Boston College was for the best. My point was more towards this notion of the coming super conferences. I'd disagree... I'm pretty sure the ACC cannibalizing the Big East will one day be looked at as the point at which college football jumped the shark, if it isn't already. I think CFB is getting better every day. Playoffs are starting and bowl games are at it's lowest in popularity. Also conference shifting has been going on since way before the BE raid. The ACC was playing catch up to the SEC and Big12 who just raided as well.

I think ND waiting a year to join the ACC is a bad sign for the stability of the ACC.

While that statement was very passive aggressive, it comes down to him just looking at the calendars of each school's governing bodies. The UVa Board of Visitors meets Wednesday-Friday and starts with an Executive Committee meeting Wednesday morning with full board meetings later in the week. They do not meet fully again until May. While it could be discussed in EC and voted on fully on Thursday or Friday, I am not sure that Rector Helen Dragas wants to have both the firing/rehiring of a University as well as conference shift on her hands in under 12 months. She and the school may wait until July 1 to announce a move since George Martin will assume the role as Rector. UNC has a lame duck Chancellor to conduct business as he just announced Monday that he is going to bolt to Washington University (St. Louis) at the end of the semester instead of just resigning to a teaching role at UNC. UNC's Board of Trustees is not scheduled to meet in February as of yet. They are dates to meet, but there is neither an announcement nor an agenda. GT does not have its own board, rather the University System of Georgia's Board of Regents handles it all. This guy has credibility. A lot of credibility.. He is not a dart thrower.

I know you should take tweets with a grain of salt but this is the guy who broke the Maryland news. 56 mins Jeff Ermann ‏@insidemdsports Big 10 talk buzzing again. #UVA being mentioned often as likely to join. Georgia Tech still in the mix. #UNC, the big domino, has an offer.

My guess for midwest is Kansas, ND and maybe Mizzou. I think FSU has a shot if they move past 16. I still think B12 will be where they end up. I think I agree. A lot of people bring it up but I also don't see them leaving the SEC so soon.

More proof the Big10 is about to poach the ACC hard.

I wonder if that new UNLV stadium is the beginning of a PAC-12 reach.

What do you take from this? GT 's AD opens his mouth. Sounds like Mizzou before they bolted. Funny how he lumps them with UNC, Duke, and UVA together. All four Big 10 bound?

But who is taking them? Big12

Miami will not be left out. Fox has a boner for them.

Fixed Households. No matter who is in them.

It might happen, but the Big XII scooping up Northern Illinois and Tulsa ain't exactly what I'd call a payoff. Now, if they managed to swing the Florida State-Clemson deal, the avalanche will probably start. They wont add six teams unless FSU and Clemson are involved. The four others are buddies for FSU and Clemson.

The Big12 is meeting later this month. The Commissioner said the Big12 may become more proactive. They are looking at adding 6 more teams. It is coming, people. Don't think for a second it isn't. It has been coming for years. The payoff is almost here.

Well, you can't hate if I am looking out for my school. And the super conferences are coming. Like it or not. I am cheering for FSU to get out the ACC. If the super conferences is the only way, so be it. I have been preaching that it is going to happen. More so than actually cheering, Though the outcome is pro FSU. To be honest I don't care what happens to Syracuse or UCF. They don't have thousands of my dollars.

What is funny is no one in the national media is bringing it up. Just you. Maybe the facts aren't what you think they are. And I have been respectful.

That is my point. And they aren't going to let it happen to VT either. If no one wants UVA, that is their problem, not VT's. And do you get what I was trying to say up there? Obviously it wasn't that the ACC is UVA's safe harbor. If no one wants UVA, that is Virginia Tech's problem, because either both schools with have safe homes or neither. Count on it. The legislature stepped in to force the ACC to add Virginia Tech because of concerns that Virginia Tech was going to be left in a disintegrating Big East that didn't care for football. Fair enough on your opinion. We see it different ways. I think they rather have one successful than none at all. Especially if the Commonwealth was the reason that both went down. My opinion on it. Again, the BE situation was different because VT could only go up and no one could go down. In this situation both schools can go down based on this. It defies the reason to have it to begin with. It's not opinion. It's been stated. The commonwealth controls the power to allow/disallow either school to switch. VT's gonna be fine. They're a big time program. UVa is not. It's not a luxury of salvaging one over the other. I respectfully disagree here, too. I think money and power (legal team) can get you out of anything. The SEC has money and I think they (the school trying to leave for greener pastures) has a valid argument. But hey, if you are right, maybe the SEC will give VA the finger and settle on FSU.

read again I mean, the first thing I wrote is. "Even if making them stay in the ACC means their football death?" Not being rude, but why would Florida State leave the ACC? This is under the assumption that the Big10 and SEC will pick more ACC schools. An assumption shared by many. If you want to know more, go back and reread the thread. I posted it several times. Something I have been predicting even before Maryland left. There are other reasons. Just go back some.

That is my point. And they aren't going to let it happen to VT either. If no one wants UVA, that is their problem, not VT's. And do you get what I was trying to say up there? Obviously it wasn't that the ACC is UVA's safe harbor. If no one wants UVA, that is Virginia Tech's problem, because either both schools with have safe homes or neither. Count on it. The legislature stepped in to force the ACC to add Virginia Tech because of concerns that Virginia Tech was going to be left in a disintegrating Big East that didn't care for football. Fair enough on your opinion. We see it different ways. I think they rather have one successful than none at all. Especially if the Commonwealth was the reason that both went down. My opinion on it. Again, the BE situation was different because VT could only go up and no one could go down. In this situation both schools can go down based on this. It defies the reason to have it to begin with.

That is my point. And they aren't going to let it happen to VT either. If no one wants UVA, that is their problem, not VT's. And do you get what I was trying to say up there? Obviously it wasn't that the ACC is UVA's safe harbor.

read again I mean, the first thing I wrote is. "Even if making them stay in the ACC means their football death?"

Even if making them stay in the ACC means their football death? The ACC thing was different. It was trying to prop VT up. Not hold them back. I don't know if it will apply here. It would be holding VT back and propping no one up. No way the SEC takes both VA schools.

I don't think they will step in. They may kill both if they do. You don't think the University of Virginia has enough clout in the state legislature to ensure its salvation?! LOL WUT. I don't think it matters. Both will end up somewhere. But yeah, I do think that can get out of it. Who will take them? SEC? No. Big XII? Not likely? Pac-12? ARE YOU INSANE?! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope, not happening. Mind you, I still think ARE YOU INSANE?! applies to the idea that Georgia Tech delivers Atlanta. See also: "DePaul gives you Chicago". It is about households more than eyeballs.