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  1. I agree, to an extent. I like the use of pink, especially because of the local connection with the cherry blossoms reference, but I think the home especially could benefit from including both white and pink to balance each other out, and I think the logo would look better with white rather than pink (though it could perhaps stay as the outline); it just reads as bloodshot eyes to me, and is a bit off-putting. I'm 100% on board with not playing it safe when doing something creative, though; I definitely subscribe to the philosophy that it's always easier to pull something wild back, and still end up with a unique final product, than to try and revise something bland in the other direction. Absolutely love the third jersey, which screams DC. I'm not sure if the sublimated design is inspired by something in particular from DC (Is it a Metro station ceiling? It's been close to a decade since I've used the DC Metro, but that feels like it's bringing back some memories.), but it looks great regardless.
  2. Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad design, and I've always thought the logo was strong (at least as an alternate logo), but only using white and silver striping on a dark navy blue jersey is not exactly a recipe for success. Including that era's bronze somehow would have been a massive improvement to the original, even if it meant reworking the stripes to have an additional color. New York Rangers The Rangers have obviously never really had a multitude of different looks throughout their history; other than the ill-advised 1976-'78 attempted redesign, their primary jerseys have been consistent throughout the club's entire history, with only minor tweaks over the years. The Lady Liberty thirds were of course used for the real Reverse Retro (intention, A+; execution... B-? C?), the 2010-'17 alternate that died with the switch to Adizero are too recent for a Reverse Retro in my mind (not to mention, while I do like them a lot, they're a bit unexciting for this purpose), and I've not been wanting to use "specialty" jerseys for any teams' Reverse Retros (i.e. Winter Classic/Stadium Series designs), just "permanent" home/away/alternates. So I went the route that the Canadiens did in real life, and simply took their current but long-standing design and reversed it. I've always loved the Rangers' white jerseys, which have remained unchanged across manufacturers and templates ever since they were first introduced in 1951 to comply with the league's new two-jersey requirement; the shoulder design is unique and has a ton of personality. Swapping blue and white, resulting in a white shoulder yoke and white cuffs, somehow ends up creating an eye-catching, almost modern aesthetic, in my opinion, something that, no, I wouldn't want to see on a regular basis, but that I think works really well for a Reverse Retro that ought to turn a few heads. I did keep the crest/numbers/NOB from the real blue jerseys, rather than continuing the blue-white swap, which would have resulted in white numbers and letters with red outlining; it didn't seem beneficial to make that drastic of a change.
  3. From one Canadian team's 2000s third jersey to another's: Edmonton Oilers The Oilers have played around a lot with variations on their classic jersey design in all different colors, with the striping remaining more or less intact throughout both the blue-and-orange era(s) and the navy-and-bronze era (Edge design excepted), with changes basically amounting to the removal of the shoulder yoke and the addition of red accents on the navy-and-bronze jerseys. So with the classic design being pretty well covered by the team already, not to mention the basis for the real Reverse Retro, I picked a jersey that I know I've seen a lot of people wish for, the navy-and-silver Oil Drop third jersey, and swapped it into the blue-and-orange palette, logo and all. I didn't think just swapping a jersey that was originally navy into blue would make enough of a statement, and I didn't really want to do another orange jersey now that they've made that their primary color, so white it is, which I do think has the benefit of really making the recolored logo pop. The white stripes become blue, and the silver borders become orange. The same silver to orange scheme carries over to the logo as well, but the navy elements simply become the modern shade of blue. Is the new color scheme of the logo realistic? No. Does it need to be? No, it's a Reverse Retro, go a little wild! And there is indeed a subtly different second, darker shade of orange, just as the original navy-and-silver logo had two shades of silver. Finally, as long as the pants are different than what they wear with their regular uniforms, I went all in and used the navy-and-bronze era logo, which had an additional red outline that's not on other versions of the logo; that red is now orange. It's a tiny detail, but I'm going for authenticity here!
  4. Thanks! Glad you like it. Ottawa Senators Maybe it's just me and the age I was when they were wearing it, but the 2000-'07 third jersey with the laurel leaf striping has always felt like an iconic part of the Sens' jersey history to me (so much so that in my mind, I'd thought it had been a primary jersey, not just a third). So I've taken it and done an incredibly straightforward swap of black and red (excluding the black pattern within the stripes). There's honestly not a whole lot else to say about it; hope you like it! As a bonus of sorts, I did make a version that's the same jersey, but with the Edge-era 3/4-turn logo that was just retired with the recent rebrand. The actual logo that's on the version above definitely looks a bit dated, so I wonder if Ottawa might pretend it doesn't exist and go for more of an era-combining look if this were a real-life situation.
  5. Detroit Red Wings As I mentioned when I posted Toronto's concept, the Red Wings were in much the same boat, but I'm here to prove that they at least had better options than what they ended up doing. Unlike the Leafs, the Red Wings' jerseys have been remarkably consistent since the franchise started using that nickname, but as shown with the NHL 75th jersey and the 2009 Winter Classic jersey, they do have other looks from the Cougars era that are throwback options. (There's also the one Falcons jersey that's there as well, but they've yet to use that as inspiration for anything, and neither did I for this.) I've taken the other remaining Detroit Cougars jersey that they haven't yet used as a throwback (although it did inspire the Centennial Classic jersey), worn in the 1928-'29 season, and reversed it from a white jersey to a red jersey. The arm stripes remain as spread-out as the Adizero template allows (unlike the Centennial Classic jersey, which compressed them for a more modern look), and the original logo of the cougar head with arched "DETROIT" text is replaced by the fauxback-style Red Wings logo and arched text used on the 2014 Winter Classic jersey, now in plain white instead of "vintage white." The only artistic license I took was the addition of one hem stripe, which felt aesthetically necessary (maybe not "necessary," but I thought it looked better) now that that jersey is the same color as the pants, to avoid too much of a monochrome look. And even though the tip of the logo's wing isn't in the way anymore, I still kept the captain's patch on the right side to honor that Red Wings tradition.
  6. Everyone else has already sung the Flamingos' praises, and I have to agree. That gradient is beautiful. I wonder if the away jersey has enough white to really count as such, but I also expect it'd contrast with every other team's home jersey enough that it doesn't really matter. The third jersey looks plucked straight from the 90s in the most awesome way. The wordmark-as-crest might get a little lost at a distance, especially with the skinny letters, but the colors carry the day enough that it doesn't bother me. I really like the Sparkplugs' identity and the jerseys are a lot of fun; the triple-stripe on only one leg seems perfect for the league you're creating. It may just be a trick of the template, but the black stripe on the arms feels a bit high, where it would appear to get cut off by the armpit and not go all the way around the sleeve, which isn't a look that I'm a fan of. Even if it does go all the way around, it still just seems squished up too close to the shoulder yoke. I'd say it's even more apparent on the third jersey, where there's no more striping below it, so it has plenty of room where it could get shifted down. And unfortunately, the logo's not quite doing it for me. Conceptually, I understand it, but I think it's just a bit too abstract; each time I look at it, my brain refuses to see it as a sparkplug with MCS inside until I've been staring at it for a while, no matter how many times a scroll away and come back to it.
  7. Thanks! It was definitely a swing-for-the-fences decision, so I'm glad I'm at least not the only one who likes it. My instinct was to have green as the secondary color and white as the tertiary in the striping, for more contrast with the gold and because green is the stronger link to the Stars' identity, but I'm intrigued enough to try it, and swapping the logo colors could definitely be onto something. Philadelphia Flyers Philly truly has had very few jerseys in their history, and they definitely went with the strongest choice for their real-life Reverse Retro, so while I've stayed away from Edge-era jerseys for everyone else, 2007-'10 was sort of the only remaining option for the Flyers. The only other options would have been the 2002-'07 third jersey, but I just wasn't feeling it, or the 2012 Winter Classic that was promoted to 2014-'16 third jersey, which felt too recent to be Retro. I suppose I also could have done a black version of their current design, but that would've felt boring and lazy, not to mention the Flyers have always looked better in orange than in black. So I took the only Flyers primary jersey that's never had an orange edition, and rectified that, reversing it from black to orange. (Isn't there a TV show about that?) In addition to black to orange, white becomes black, and orange becomes white, for another of those three-way rotations that I seem to like so much. Adapting this truly unique Reebok Edge design onto the Adizero template required a bit of approximation, but it's undeniably recognizable, and I think it would realistically be able to be constructed; the introduction of piping cutting through the shoulder yoke instead of bordering it is the only real wild card.
  8. That's fair enough; clearly, it wasn't something I'd considered, especially since I associate the Bruins with black jerseys, but you're right, the shoulder yoke is really the only main difference between the Pens concept and that Bruins jersey you linked. I really like the idea of mixing the powder blue and black-and-yellow eras, but I'll try revisiting Pittsburgh down the road. Dallas Stars Doing something on the wilder side is definitely Dallas's brand at the moment, so I came up with something that I think still fits that bill! This is their first ever jersey (technically the 1995 revision that widened the stripes; the original only lasted one season and the revision is definitely an improvement), and I've brought back the original color palette of that era, but with gold, an accent color only found in the logo, taking center stage, and black, the primary color that it's replacing, completely eliminated. It's unlike anything the Stars have ever done, so hopefully that'd be right up the team's alley: They've always been either a black or a green team, and the gold accents have always been a minor element even in later jerseys that did feature it in the striping (Exhibit A and Exhibit B). Once I had landed on the idea of a gold jersey, the color replacement was a simple black-->gold, green-->white, and white-->green. But if a gold jersey in Dallas wasn't weird enough, the logo needed recoloring too, something that (aside from making "DALLAS" white when it was on a green jersey) had never been done to this logo until the IRL Reverse Retro. So while the green stays as-is, the logo's gold elements become a double-take-inducing white. The shoulder patch logo also underwent a few changes to eliminate black, not that you can really make it out at this scale, but the black outlines and "D" become green and the green outline becomes gold, and the tiny black line between the green star and gold outline simply becomes white to disappear into the background. And true to the original, there's a little logo patch on the rear hem as well. The equipment goes green because that's the darkest remaining color with black gone, and I think that's generally the best-looking option (gold pants would have been bit too much, not to mention head-to-toe gold might get a cease-and-desist from Vegas, even if it's not sparkly). As far as choosing the 1995 jersey, I was tempted to take a stab at redoing the star-template jersey they used for the real Reverse Retro, because it is indeed one of Dallas's best jerseys, but I quickly discovered that I think they did what they did basically out of necessity, due to the Adizero template, specifically the cut of the underarms. You'll notice that the striping gets cut off there, which really ties a designer's hands as far as having different colors above and below the striping like the original jersey did. So I have a bit more sympathy now for why the jersey is all white, but the white equipment is still an... interesting... choice (though as I said at the beginning, between this and the neon third jersey, Dallas is not afraid to get weird, and more power to them for that), and I will continue to stand by my opinion that the silver in the logo was a bad choice simply because it completely disappears into the white jersey. While I'm generally not a fan of truncated striping (looking at you, Reebok Edge-era Oilers and Panthers), this pre-Edge design manages to pull it off, in my opinion, thanks to having the numbers fill the gap. And with the nostalgia factor of it being Dallas's first jersey design (and certainly a better choice than the generic Edge jerseys of the late '00s/early '10s), taking this fairly respectable jersey and doing something a little funky with it felt like a good option for the Stars.
  9. Pittsburgh Penguins The Pens have never been shy about digging through their closet of old jerseys for throwbacks, so I decided to double up on the nostalgia and go with the jersey that was both the team's second ever jersey (and first with a logo, after the inaugural season diagonal-text design) and the first Winter Classic jersey (and subsequent third jersey), and swap it into the club's current black and yellow scheme. I knew I wanted to do an era-mashup between the black-and-yellow and powder blue eras, but a number of the team's jerseys have actually already been done in both color schemes: When the team switched from powder blue to black and yellow, they simply kept the same jersey design and changed the colors, and there have of course been diagonal-text jerseys in both color schemes (albeit with different striping). The Vegas Gold Reebok Edge era was a non-starter for me, so this seemed like one of the options that was both best-looking and most likely to appeal to Pittsburgh fans if it were a real-life jersey. The color-swapping is straightforward: Powder blue becomes yellow, dark blue becomes black, and white stays. The only deviation is the numbers and NOB, which would have been white with a black outline (as seen in the captain's patch, which seemed legible enough to keep that way), but it wasn't a good look on a yellow jersey. But they do follow the logic of the '68-'70 white jersey, with the number color matching the sleeve cuffs and the number outline matching the shoulder yoke.
  10. Yeah, I definitely knew that this one would be more "unexpected" than "show-stopping," but I figured I'd go with it anyways! The jersey design itself is unfortunately bland (not terribly surprising for something from the 1930s), so the "centerpiece" in my mind is the melding of the Eagles' arched text with the Blues' logo. And now from the Blues to the Blue Jackets! Columbus Blue Jackets Same as with St. Louis, I've taken a team that literally has "Blue" in their name and un-redded their Reverse Retro. Columbus, though, has far fewer past jerseys to pick from, and I preferred to sort of "fix" their actual Reverse Retro rather than dig into the city's minor-league history. The only jerseys they've ever worn are this inaugural design, their current design, and their two third jerseys: the short-lived one with inexplicably black arms that at least introduced the current logo, and their current cannon alt. I find the 2003-'07 design to be rather uninspiring, and as fun as the cannon alt would be to use, it's not exactly "retro" since it's part of the current set! So I kept the template of their real-life Reverse Retro but changed the colors up differently. So how can having the jersey blue be a reversal? Because the inaugural jerseys were slightly different between the dark jersey and the white jersey, so I've taken the white jersey's design (which is indeed the same one they used in real life), with its contrasting sleeves and bigger hem stripe, and reversed it into a blue jersey. So rather than going white to red, blue to white, and red to blue, I went white to blue, blue to red, and red to white. This keeps the CBJ with a primarily blue jersey, and rather than having white arms and hems and sending blue all the way to the bottom of the order, red is the secondary color and white is the tertiary. I did keep the blue-and-red-reversed pants that went with the IRL Revers Retro, because they look good (better with this jersey than their normal red pants, IMO), and otherwise I'd have been reversing them to be white pants, which isn't exactly the aesthetic I was going for. But perhaps most importantly of all... STINGER IS BACK, BABY! (Which also means his lime green gets to make a cameo appearance in the manufacturer's name on the gloves, just as they did back in 2000.)
  11. I'm really liking the LA Blades identity; the logo is definitely the centerpiece of that brand, which is high praise for a wordmark logo, but that "LA" is a stroke of genius. The jersey/pants combo stripe is just weird enough for the RHL on an otherwise somewhat conservative jersey. I like the idea of the third jersey, but the "phantom" effect of the jersey/pants stripe with one color removed isn't quite doing it for me; it may be more fun to just go with an entirely different jersey design. I'll admit to not researching how much of the Rhinos identity is original and how much of it is a carryover from the real-life franchise, but I love everything about your concept other than the logo. The colors and the striping are fantastic, but something about the logo looks more "corporate" than "athletic" to me, that I can't quite figure out how to put into words. Maybe it needs to have more motion to it, and/or it could use just a little bit of a nudge towards detail and away from thick lines and blocky shapes? I'm not a logo designer, so I'm just trying to figure out the reason for what's ultimately a gut feeling. I also agree with the other comment that the name/number font is a little tough on the eyes. The Seattle Grunge is just a fantastic RHL identity. I'm definitely getting VGK vibes in the sense of "knowing exactly what we are and what we're trying to be, and leaning into it 110% and embracing the tackiness." Not much feedback other than that; it's not the most serious identity, but it's a lot of fun. And the Buffalo Wings are yet another great concept. Somehow, having a ton of different shades of each of the two colors still manages to actually work. I have sort of the same critique of the logo as I did of the Rhinos logo; it's at least got a nice feeling of motion to it, but the shape of the head (and to a lesser degree the wings) feels a little off. I love the number font, but the detail-oriented side of me wants to know, how would a single-digit player number be done? And I'm getting hungry just looking at that third; maybe it'll have the same effect on opponents? Awesome work! This series continues to be a ton of fun.
  12. St. Louis Blues I don't actually dislike the Blues' IRL Reverse Retro; it definitely understood the assignment, and it's fun and unexpected. That being said, seeing the Blues wear a jersey that's, well, not blue (or white) just doesn't sit right with me. (Spoiler alert: Same goes for the next team on the list, the Blue Jackets.) But despite the extensive number of jersey redesigns the team has undergone throughout its history, reversing a sweater but keeping it blue or white just isn't really possible; I could have reversed their two shades of blue, but that would have been underwhelming to say the least. So instead, the Blues become the final team of this series to dig into their city's hockey history and revive a past club's jersey! What you see is a Blues-ified version of the St. Louis Eagles' white, red, and blue jersey. The team may be somewhat of a footnote in NHL history, having played only the 1934-'35 season as a last-ditch effort to keep the Ottawa Senators 1.0 franchise alive, but it does represent the league's first presence in the Gateway City, which is certainly noteworthy. This Reverse Retro jersey obviously substitutes blue for the white base, yellow for the blue striping, and dark blue for the red logo and sock stripe. The logo retains the Eagles' arched text, but replaces the eagle with the blue note, and the text is recolored to match the dark blue-yellow-white color and outlining of the Blues logo. I made the number yellow with a white outline for legibility, since recoloring the original red number to be dark blue on a blue jersey would have been pretty ridiculous. And the pants match the design of the Eagles', with the single moderate-thickness stripe, but I went with dark blue and a yellow stripe for the sake of aesthetics. As with my Blackhawks, concept, I used the crewneck collar, which I'm making an effort to do for all of my Reverse Retros that are from around 1940 and earlier.
  13. Here are a pair of alternate Seattle versions, updated to be a more contemporary hybrid of the Totems' and Kraken's aesthetics, based on @johne9109 and @B-mer's suggestions. Both versions remove the front number and move the captain's patch back to its more conventional location, and replace the Totems' block font with the Kraken's actual font for the number and NOB (stick-tap to Icethetics for that). Version #1 swaps out "KRAKEN" for "SEATTLE" in order to make use of the team's S logo, mimicking the Totems' use of their T-shaped logo, per johne's suggestion. I thought my best bet might be to create a "T" and an "L" to match the Kraken's wordmark logo and spell out "EATTLE" with that font, but unfortunately I couldn't pull it off. I quickly realized that the wordmark letters don't have any horizontal bars, just vertical and slanted lines, and building a "T" and an "L" with that slant just looked awkward; I didn't even get a chance to try adding on the beveled effect, because just the shapes alone looked pretty bad. I ended up using the Kraken's NOB font (the "shorter and squatter" version from that earlier Icethetics image I linked to), but did keep the drop-shadow as homage to the Totems. Since I really like the Kraken wordmark, though, I also created Version #2... ...which returns to my original concept of having the team nickname instead of the city name, but instead of using the Totems' block letters, just straight up uses that Kraken wordmark in all its glory. I made the letters red, since B-mer and I agreed that that looked really sharp, which did require the introduction of a new shade of red to the palette in order to keep the beveled effect, and I gave them the Deep Sea Blue outline, but no drop-shadow, as the bevel + drop-shadow would have been too much going on visually. I may have erred a little on the large side as far as the size of the letters, but it certainly makes a statement!
  14. I'll be honest, I'd partly stayed away from the Storm Jersey because I was just a little bit intimidated recreating it on the Adizero template in MS Paint (the waves and rain are easy enough to trace, but the lightning bolts on the arms could go either way, and I don't believe I've seen the number font in the old Paint User's Paradise thread that I still pull a lot of stuff from). But since I'd finished all the teams before starting this thread, I'll probably spend the time seeing if I can pull that jersey off, because it would definitely be fun! And reversing it to have a black sky and blue waves would honestly make more sense than the original, from a natural world perspective... Thanks! I'm not a huge fan of the front number either, but I figured I'd stick with historical accuracy to start with, and maybe adjust things to fit more modern sensibilities afterwards. And agreed about the red; the Kraken's actual jerseys with the tiny red accent works well, but honestly just their whole color scheme is a gift to work with, and looks good in all different combinations, and making the deep blue a secondary color instead of the primary color definitely allowed for the red to get promoted a bit. Next up... Colorado Avalanche The Avs still get a white Reverse Retro, but one of their own jerseys instead of the Nordiques. I've used their first-ever alternate jersey, the 2007 maroon diagonal text design (which is the superior of their diagonal text alts, in my opinion). Besides reversing white and maroon, I also eliminated black (shoulder patch logo excepted) and introduced silver, in keeping with the direction that the team's look has been gradually moving in recent years. So everything that used to be black is now blue, and everything that used to be blue is now silver. The pants go maroon to help balance out the large swaths of blue that are in the hem striping and socks, and the collar laces stay white instead of switching to maroon because I just felt like it looked better. (As I mentioned earlier with equipment, the color of collar laces is another part of the uniforms that I'm either reversing or not-reversing on a case-by-case basis throughout the series.)
  15. I second the comment that either the black or the charcoal gray jersey would work better as white (and probably change the black one, since charcoal is a slightly more unique color to keep), but aside from that, good ASG concept! I wish the NHL would do 4 unique, non-clashing jerseys for the four divisions again, but unfortunately I don't expect them to return to that... We can dream, though. Looking at past ASG jerseys (particularly 2017), I think an original (but "Vegas-inspired") design in the four Golden Knights colors would be more realistic than color-swapping Vegas's actual jersey template, so players don't look like they're wearing a rival team's jersey. Looking forward to the Winter Classic and Stadium Series jersey concepts!
  16. Up next, another team with two concepts I couldn't decide between, though in this case it's just the same jersey design in two different color schemes. San Jose Sharks The two newest expansion teams aren't the only ones who throw back to past franchises of their home city! I've got the Sharks reviving the look of NHL's previous Bay Area club, the Oakland/California (Golden) Seals. San Jose has a fair number of past jerseys to pull from, but they've already been bringing their inaugural jersey out of the closet for anniversaries, and of course their late '90s jersey is the basis of their real life Reverse Retro. The other remaining option could have been to make their black 2001-'07 alternate teal (or white, or gray), but I felt less inspired to do that than to do this. This first version takes the Golden Seals' 1970-'74 green and gold uniform and puts it in the Sharks' signature teal and black, complete with the serifed NOB font and my best attempt at a Seals-ified "Sharks" logo. It's a pretty straightforward concept without too much commentary, to be honest. But updating the Golden Seals' jersey to the Sharks' current color palette is perhaps a bit drab, and, aside from the logo, it looks sort of like something that could be "just another" normal Sharks jersey rather than a Seals callback, so I also came up with an alternate version... ...which takes that '70-'74 design and puts it into the Golden Seals' own other color scheme, the bright teal and yellow of 1974-'76. It borders on garish, but then again, the same could be said about the colors when the Golden Seals originally wore it. It's also barely even a Sharks RR at this point, as it combines two different eras of the Golden Seals, with the Sharks logo as the only real link to the present-day team, which is why I placed it second in this post. But it's definitely the fun sibling of the more serious first concept!
  17. Thanks for the kind words! Going in a slightly unexpected direction is definitely one of my big goals for this series. I did think about how the Totems used the logo in place of the letter T, and how that didn't really work with the word "Kraken." (Logo design isn't in my wheelhouse, so an original "K" kraken logo wasn't an option.) Obviously I ended up deciding that the use of the team nickname was the more important aspect, rather than the replacement of a letter with a logo, but I'm definitely game to try it with "Seattle" and the Kraken's S logo. I'll probably have to experiment with some different fonts for the rest of the letters, since the Kraken logo would stick out like a sore thumb next to (my close approximation of) the Totems' font. Hopefully the whole thing doesn't clash with the overall jersey design and striping, with how modern the logo is and how vintage the jersey is, but I won't knock it 'til I've tried it! Chicago Blackhawks I have the Hawks revisiting a jersey they've thrown back to once before, the 2009 Winter Classic jersey that was promoted to 3rd jersey the next season, but my concept hews more closely to the original 1935-'37 design, in addition to of course reversing the colors. I kept the 2009 logo, because realistically that's the most vintage logo design the Blackhawks ever seem to want to throw back to, but I scrapped the lace-up collar in favor of a more accurate crewneck collar, ever since that collar style was introduced as an option with the 2016 Winter Classic. And of course I had to use the fantastic zig-zag socks (which I found this great photo of to make sure I had their design correct). I also moved the arm numbers from inside the stripe to the more modern upper-arm location; obviously, arm numbers weren't part of the historical jersey at all, but I just prefer the look of them this way as opposed to how the 2009 jersey did them. Other than that, the three colors rotate: the black base becomes tan, the red border stripes become black, and the tan inner stripe becomes red. I did keep white in the logo, because the 1935-'37 jersey did in fact still use white in its logo. And I left the socks in their original tan design, since they'd match the now-tan jersey, while for the pants I simply reused the way they were colored in 2009, since that was a better-looking option than continuing the color-replacement scheme from the jersey, which would have made them red.
  18. I love footy, though I'm not enough of an expert to know if there are any elements of the Collingwood logo that fans would consider "essential" to the design other than of course the bird itself. So with that caveat out of the way, I like your redesign! The white patches having less detail is definitely in line with a more modern look, and losing the shield and being perched on the football is fun. I feel like one thing the original has going for it is the magpie's eye; it seems too small in your version. I'm finding it a bit tough to make out even on my screen, so I'd imagine that would only get worse the smaller it got scaled down. I only hope adjusting the eye doesn't then have a cascading effect and throw off other proportions of your version!
  19. Seattle Kraken Everyone knows about the 1917 Stanley Cup champion Seattle Metropolitans, but Seattle's longest-lived pro hockey club was the Totems, who went by that name from 1958-'75, but existed as a continuous franchise under a few other names dating back to 1944. In addition to having had a few different names, the Totems also had their fair share of different jerseys and color schemes throughout the years. I opted for the white jersey worn from 1963-'66, because the three-color red-white-and-blue look was easier to adapt to the Kraken's colors than the plain green-and-white would have been, and the '63-'66 white jersey had more interesting striping than the '63-'66 blue jersey. This Reverse Retro is totally devoid of white, just as the Kraken's primary home sweater is. From the original Totems jersey, the colors don't actually move around too much, just get updated to the Kraken's palette: The white base color becomes the Kraken's "medium" shade of blue ("Shadow Blue" in brand-speak), the red is adjusted minorly to become the Kraken's shade of red, and the blue becomes the Kraken's primary dark blue color (aka "Deep Sea Blue"). I was intrigued to see that the Totems used those upper-corner chest numbers in the '60s; large, centered front numbers, while uncommon, weren't unheard of (and they did also use those on the jerseys that came before these), but having front numbers in that location seemed to me to be very much a thing of the mid-to-late 2000s, so I guess the Totems were waaaay ahead of the trend with that. It also got me wondering where the heck the captain's patch would go, and I finally got my answer when I found this photo from the period; unconventional, to be sure! (FWIW, the photo source is slide 26 of this slideshow, but there was no real way for me to link directly to it other than to screenshot it and re-upload it myself.) Once you know what to look for, you can also spot the captain's patch in this team photo. In the spoiler tag below you can see my first draft, which used the Kraken's Ice Blue instead of Shadow Blue. I'm still sharing it because I don't think it's bad, and the bright blue is certainly bold and attention-grabbing, and does admittedly provide better contrast with the Deep Sea Blue. I held onto it for quite a long time before deciding to try out the Shadow Blue, but ultimately I chose the version you see above because this one just seemed a little too bright for the Kraken, who are clearly going for a dark, deep, and mysterious angle with their branding, and I didn't think there were any truly significant legibility issues to not go with the Shadow Blue jersey, even if there is slightly less contrast.
  20. I love that third jersey; I've always enjoyed seeing (and using in my own concepts) that style of "faux-gradient." Home and away are great too; I'm a big fan of how the sleeve striping looks, and the number font is really nice. The biggest thing I'd suggest revisiting would be the color balance on the white jersey. The black pants help, but even so, the uniform still feels a little red-heavy. I don't have an immediate solution off the top of my head, but using the striping pattern from the arms for the waist stripes, and maybe even for the shoulder yoke, could possibly yield some results. Honestly, the jersey might have enough red just from the logo and the numbers that a black hem and shoulders could still be balanced enough, especially if you add that little red accent stripe from the arms to other parts of the jersey. Or maybe even experiment with also swapping the red and gold, for a thicker red stripe between the white and the black, and the thin accent in gold? This is all just brainstorming, though; maybe they're good ideas, maybe they're not! I'd also consider thickening the gold border around the "LV" circles on the third jersey, just a touch; I feel like it's just a little thin to properly separate the black stripes from the black logo, and looks a little awkward. Ultimately, though, this is all really small stuff (even if I spent a fair amount of words on it). At the end of the day this is another solid team identity!
  21. Entirely by coincidence, the only two gray jerseys that I did in the entire series end up getting posted back-to-back. It is what it is! Carolina Hurricanes No pre-relocation throwbacks here, but the jersey color remains the same as the Canes' IRL Reverse Retro. Like I did with Anaheim, and like Tampa did with their actual RR, I designated the '06 Stanley Cup win as the Reverse Retro year, and gave them a gray version of that jersey. (Maybe Carolina and Tampa will have to battle it out for the use of the phrase "Storm Gray" after I gave them both gray Reverse Retros.) Using the red jerseys that they were wearing whey they lifted the Cup, the original gray striping becomes black, and the original black striping becomes red, with the white striping remaining white. The warning flag stripe stays the way it is, because it would be a little ridiculous if that changed (the same logic behind not changing any of the kachina pattern colors for Arizona). A few other deviations from the color-replacement scheme are the numbers and letters (originally white with a black outline), for legibility's sake, and making the middle stripe of the socks (originally white) black, instead of leaving it white; I tried it, and it was a distractingly bad look. The pants colors also get reversed just for the heck of it (and the helmet matches the pants, following a last-minute change after @WSU151's feedback on Tampa Bay's gray helmet!). With a gray jersey, the logo's gray outline changes to black; it's a small thing, but I also believe it's the first time that sort of change would ever have been done to the Hurricanes' logo (other than the no-white helmet logo that was also on the leaked Stadium Series jersey, and the grayed-out shoulder patch on the 3rd jerseys, but those are big changes rather than minor adjustments). I also updated the shoulder patch to be the current Double-Flag Hurricane Warning logo, instead of the old Single-Flag Tropical Storm Warning logo, because it felt like a realistic decision that the team would make, given how all-in they've gone with that new alternate logo. A little teaser for the next team in line: I didn't go with the "obvious" choice of the Metropolitans...
  22. This is gonna be fun! Off to an excellent start with the Bullfrogs, especially after the logo revision. The jerseys themselves look great (I'm digging the name/number font), and definitely fit the bill for a unique, more "unusual" roller hockey look as compared to traditional ice hockey, but with an appropriately contemporary look about them as well. The full-length pants helped you out with the color balance on the white jersey; it's nice that you were able to leave the striping the same as on the home jersey, and just change the shoulder yoke and still keep enough green. I'm not a huge fan of the RHL collar logo being so big and extending so far below the collar; it breaks up the shoulder yoke in a way that doesn't really sit right with me. Though it could also just be that gray isn't the best choice of color for it, since the gold on the throwback 3rd works better, and I certainly don't think it's worth changing the entire template over! I also just noticed that each jersey has a different tagline on the back hem; they're all really clever, and while I'm still going back and forth over whether I like them actually being on the jerseys, it's definitely a very "quirky roller hockey" thing to do, so I'm leaning towards saying it works! I remember the brief shining moment that roller hockey had in the '90s... It wasn't RHI, but my family attended a bunch of games one season (just checked, it was Major League Roller Hockey in 1997), and it was a blast. Scoring was absurdly high, I remember chanting "dou-ble di-gits" with some regularity, and I have vague memories of some zamboni/retail-store-floor-cleaner-machine hybrid, which I truly hope is a real memory and not something my imagination is making up because it's hilarious.
  23. Fair enough point on both counts. Especially in Calgary's case, I knew I was maybe pushing it with the red equipment, but the Reverse Retros felt like as appropriate a place as any to give it a shot, just for funsies. The red pants and helmet definitely stood out though, and I can admit that it maybe wasn't necessarily in a good way. I double-checked gray jerseys throughout the years in the NHL, and it doesn't look like there's ever been a gray helmet, so I'm happy to change that for the Lightning. I tried matching the helmet and the pants, both in blue and in black like you suggested, but something just didn't look right about the black helmet (which surprised me; with so little black remaining in the uniform, I thought a black helmet would balance it, but it just wasn't doing it for me and I couldn't tell you why), and I didn't care for the pants in blue either, so I went with leaving the pants black and making the helmet blue. I know you're "supposed to" have the helmet match the pants (unless you're the NY Rangers, apparently), but I've already broken that rule a couple times in this series, and there are a few other ones later on that do so as well. (Though I'll always be willing to be talked out of it!)
  24. Awesome! The attention to detail and "world-building" of creating a whole fictional history not just in a paragraph or two for each team, but also with multiple era-appropriate logos and jerseys, is quite something! Very excited to follow this. I think you've nailed the uniquely "American" soccer aesthetic as opposed to "traditional European" look. I don't really know how else to put it other than that; I suppose at least for the NY Americans, the home shirt's diagonal stripes seems like one of those designs that's inspired by but also a modern take on a more traditional look. (And that 1990s stars-and-stripes jerseys is just peak '90s!) And the fact that the home and away aren't completely different color schemes feels more American than European, too. One piece of very minor feedback on the "current" home jersey is that I think the player name gets a little illegible. The number I think is okay, because a) it's big and b) it incorporates both blue and white, making it contrast better, but the solid-blue name gets a little lost in the diagonal stripes. My initial-thought suggestion would be to maybe put it on a solid white nameplate, rather than directly onto the jersey itself, but I'm sure there are other creative options too!
  25. Tampa Bay Lightning For my Tampa concept, I ended up going with the same jersey they used for their real Reverse Retro; the only other options were the 2007-'11 Edge jerseys (which are one of the weird template-y piping designs from that period, so not a good choice in my opinion), the blue and the black "BOLTS" third jerseys (also somewhat uninspiring designs to me, as well as being a bit too recent to be "retro"), and the infamous 1996-'99 sublimated storm jersey (which was my next best option, but I didn't want to go the Anaheim Wild Wing route for every team that had one of those '90s thirds). Ultimately, as I looked over my options, this was just the one I was most interested in doing. Gray jerseys seem to be a mini-trend of the moment for alternate jerseys, so I jumped on that train and made the jersey gray, rather than the blue that they did for the IRL Reverse Retro. The other difference is that rather than designate the Cup-winning year of 2004 as the Reverse Retro year, I went with the team's inaugural season of 1992, because I opted to go back to that unique NOB and number font, which is a really neat look and something of a missed opportunity if you ask me. (So if you wanted, you could argue that I'm technically not reusing the same jersey as they went with in real life!) As far as reversing/swapping colors, gray doesn't appear on the original jerseys' striping, just the logo and the letters/numbers; it also pops up in one stripe on the socks and of course as the lightning bolt's drop shadow on the pants. (And also the victory stripes!) So if we consider the white '92 jersey as our original, white and the gray from the font get swapped, and we also have white replace blue, blue replace black, and black disappear aside from its original location in the font and as the pants color. (Black also replaces the sock stripe that was originally gray, since otherwise it would've been reversed to white... next to another stripe that also got changed to white.) Pants are unchanged, and I went with a gray helmet because I'd consider this a "light" jersey as far as color matchups on the ice, so I followed the logic of white helmet with white jersey = gray helmet with gray jersey. (Though it's also a dark enough shade of gray that it could potentially be worn against opponents in dark or white jerseys without causing any issues.) With the logo using all of the team's colors, I decided not to try and move any of them around and leave the logo as-is, with the gray-backgrounded roundel on a gray-base jersey just being a quirk of this design.
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