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  1. I agree, to an extent. I like the use of pink, especially because of the local connection with the cherry blossoms reference, but I think the home especially could benefit from including both white and pink to balance each other out, and I think the logo would look better with white rather than pink (though it could perhaps stay as the outline); it just reads as bloodshot eyes to me, and is a bit off-putting. I'm 100% on board with not playing it safe when doing something creative, though; I definitely subscribe to the philosophy that it's always easier to pull something wild back, and still end up with a unique final product, than to try and revise something bland in the other direction. Absolutely love the third jersey, which screams DC. I'm not sure if the sublimated design is inspired by something in particular from DC (Is it a Metro station ceiling? It's been close to a decade since I've used the DC Metro, but that feels like it's bringing back some memories.), but it looks great regardless.
  2. Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad design, and I've always thought the logo was strong (at least as an alternate logo), but only using white and silver striping on a dark navy blue jersey is not exactly a recipe for success. Including that era's bronze somehow would have been a massive improvement to the original, even if it meant reworking the stripes to have an additional color. New York Rangers The Rangers have obviously never really had a multitude of different looks throughout their history; other than the ill-advised 1976-'78 attempted redesign, their primary jerseys have been consistent throughout the club's entire history, with only minor tweaks over the years. The Lady Liberty thirds were of course used for the real Reverse Retro (intention, A+; execution... B-? C?), the 2010-'17 alternate that died with the switch to Adizero are too recent for a Reverse Retro in my mind (not to mention, while I do like them a lot, they're a bit unexciting for this purpose), and I've not been wanting to use "specialty" jerseys for any teams' Reverse Retros (i.e. Winter Classic/Stadium Series designs), just "permanent" home/away/alternates. So I went the route that the Canadiens did in real life, and simply took their current but long-standing design and reversed it. I've always loved the Rangers' white jerseys, which have remained unchanged across manufacturers and templates ever since they were first introduced in 1951 to comply with the league's new two-jersey requirement; the shoulder design is unique and has a ton of personality. Swapping blue and white, resulting in a white shoulder yoke and white cuffs, somehow ends up creating an eye-catching, almost modern aesthetic, in my opinion, something that, no, I wouldn't want to see on a regular basis, but that I think works really well for a Reverse Retro that ought to turn a few heads. I did keep the crest/numbers/NOB from the real blue jerseys, rather than continuing the blue-white swap, which would have resulted in white numbers and letters with red outlining; it didn't seem beneficial to make that drastic of a change.
  3. From one Canadian team's 2000s third jersey to another's: Edmonton Oilers The Oilers have played around a lot with variations on their classic jersey design in all different colors, with the striping remaining more or less intact throughout both the blue-and-orange era(s) and the navy-and-bronze era (Edge design excepted), with changes basically amounting to the removal of the shoulder yoke and the addition of red accents on the navy-and-bronze jerseys. So with the classic design being pretty well covered by the team already, not to mention the basis for the real Reverse Retro, I picked a jersey that I know I've seen a lot of people wish for, the navy-and-silver Oil Drop third jersey, and swapped it into the blue-and-orange palette, logo and all. I didn't think just swapping a jersey that was originally navy into blue would make enough of a statement, and I didn't really want to do another orange jersey now that they've made that their primary color, so white it is, which I do think has the benefit of really making the recolored logo pop. The white stripes become blue, and the silver borders become orange. The same silver to orange scheme carries over to the logo as well, but the navy elements simply become the modern shade of blue. Is the new color scheme of the logo realistic? No. Does it need to be? No, it's a Reverse Retro, go a little wild! And there is indeed a subtly different second, darker shade of orange, just as the original navy-and-silver logo had two shades of silver. Finally, as long as the pants are different than what they wear with their regular uniforms, I went all in and used the navy-and-bronze era logo, which had an additional red outline that's not on other versions of the logo; that red is now orange. It's a tiny detail, but I'm going for authenticity here!
  4. Thanks! Glad you like it. Ottawa Senators Maybe it's just me and the age I was when they were wearing it, but the 2000-'07 third jersey with the laurel leaf striping has always felt like an iconic part of the Sens' jersey history to me (so much so that in my mind, I'd thought it had been a primary jersey, not just a third). So I've taken it and done an incredibly straightforward swap of black and red (excluding the black pattern within the stripes). There's honestly not a whole lot else to say about it; hope you like it! As a bonus of sorts, I did make a version that's the same jersey, but with the Edge-era 3/4-turn logo that was just retired with the recent rebrand. The actual logo that's on the version above definitely looks a bit dated, so I wonder if Ottawa might pretend it doesn't exist and go for more of an era-combining look if this were a real-life situation.
  5. Detroit Red Wings As I mentioned when I posted Toronto's concept, the Red Wings were in much the same boat, but I'm here to prove that they at least had better options than what they ended up doing. Unlike the Leafs, the Red Wings' jerseys have been remarkably consistent since the franchise started using that nickname, but as shown with the NHL 75th jersey and the 2009 Winter Classic jersey, they do have other looks from the Cougars era that are throwback options. (There's also the one Falcons jersey that's there as well, but they've yet to use that as inspiration for anything, and neither did I for this.) I've taken the other remaining Detroit Cougars jersey that they haven't yet used as a throwback (although it did inspire the Centennial Classic jersey), worn in the 1928-'29 season, and reversed it from a white jersey to a red jersey. The arm stripes remain as spread-out as the Adizero template allows (unlike the Centennial Classic jersey, which compressed them for a more modern look), and the original logo of the cougar head with arched "DETROIT" text is replaced by the fauxback-style Red Wings logo and arched text used on the 2014 Winter Classic jersey, now in plain white instead of "vintage white." The only artistic license I took was the addition of one hem stripe, which felt aesthetically necessary (maybe not "necessary," but I thought it looked better) now that that jersey is the same color as the pants, to avoid too much of a monochrome look. And even though the tip of the logo's wing isn't in the way anymore, I still kept the captain's patch on the right side to honor that Red Wings tradition.
  6. Everyone else has already sung the Flamingos' praises, and I have to agree. That gradient is beautiful. I wonder if the away jersey has enough white to really count as such, but I also expect it'd contrast with every other team's home jersey enough that it doesn't really matter. The third jersey looks plucked straight from the 90s in the most awesome way. The wordmark-as-crest might get a little lost at a distance, especially with the skinny letters, but the colors carry the day enough that it doesn't bother me. I really like the Sparkplugs' identity and the jerseys are a lot of fun; the triple-stripe on only one leg seems perfect for the league you're creating. It may just be a trick of the template, but the black stripe on the arms feels a bit high, where it would appear to get cut off by the armpit and not go all the way around the sleeve, which isn't a look that I'm a fan of. Even if it does go all the way around, it still just seems squished up too close to the shoulder yoke. I'd say it's even more apparent on the third jersey, where there's no more striping below it, so it has plenty of room where it could get shifted down. And unfortunately, the logo's not quite doing it for me. Conceptually, I understand it, but I think it's just a bit too abstract; each time I look at it, my brain refuses to see it as a sparkplug with MCS inside until I've been staring at it for a while, no matter how many times a scroll away and come back to it.
  7. Thanks! It was definitely a swing-for-the-fences decision, so I'm glad I'm at least not the only one who likes it. My instinct was to have green as the secondary color and white as the tertiary in the striping, for more contrast with the gold and because green is the stronger link to the Stars' identity, but I'm intrigued enough to try it, and swapping the logo colors could definitely be onto something. Philadelphia Flyers Philly truly has had very few jerseys in their history, and they definitely went with the strongest choice for their real-life Reverse Retro, so while I've stayed away from Edge-era jerseys for everyone else, 2007-'10 was sort of the only remaining option for the Flyers. The only other options would have been the 2002-'07 third jersey, but I just wasn't feeling it, or the 2012 Winter Classic that was promoted to 2014-'16 third jersey, which felt too recent to be Retro. I suppose I also could have done a black version of their current design, but that would've felt boring and lazy, not to mention the Flyers have always looked better in orange than in black. So I took the only Flyers primary jersey that's never had an orange edition, and rectified that, reversing it from black to orange. (Isn't there a TV show about that?) In addition to black to orange, white becomes black, and orange becomes white, for another of those three-way rotations that I seem to like so much. Adapting this truly unique Reebok Edge design onto the Adizero template required a bit of approximation, but it's undeniably recognizable, and I think it would realistically be able to be constructed; the introduction of piping cutting through the shoulder yoke instead of bordering it is the only real wild card.
  8. That's fair enough; clearly, it wasn't something I'd considered, especially since I associate the Bruins with black jerseys, but you're right, the shoulder yoke is really the only main difference between the Pens concept and that Bruins jersey you linked. I really like the idea of mixing the powder blue and black-and-yellow eras, but I'll try revisiting Pittsburgh down the road. Dallas Stars Doing something on the wilder side is definitely Dallas's brand at the moment, so I came up with something that I think still fits that bill! This is their first ever jersey (technically the 1995 revision that widened the stripes; the original only lasted one season and the revision is definitely an improvement), and I've brought back the original color palette of that era, but with gold, an accent color only found in the logo, taking center stage, and black, the primary color that it's replacing, completely eliminated. It's unlike anything the Stars have ever done, so hopefully that'd be right up the team's alley: They've always been either a black or a green team, and the gold accents have always been a minor element even in later jerseys that did feature it in the striping (Exhibit A and Exhibit B). Once I had landed on the idea of a gold jersey, the color replacement was a simple black-->gold, green-->white, and white-->green. But if a gold jersey in Dallas wasn't weird enough, the logo needed recoloring too, something that (aside from making "DALLAS" white when it was on a green jersey) had never been done to this logo until the IRL Reverse Retro. So while the green stays as-is, the logo's gold elements become a double-take-inducing white. The shoulder patch logo also underwent a few changes to eliminate black, not that you can really make it out at this scale, but the black outlines and "D" become green and the green outline becomes gold, and the tiny black line between the green star and gold outline simply becomes white to disappear into the background. And true to the original, there's a little logo patch on the rear hem as well. The equipment goes green because that's the darkest remaining color with black gone, and I think that's generally the best-looking option (gold pants would have been bit too much, not to mention head-to-toe gold might get a cease-and-desist from Vegas, even if it's not sparkly). As far as choosing the 1995 jersey, I was tempted to take a stab at redoing the star-template jersey they used for the real Reverse Retro, because it is indeed one of Dallas's best jerseys, but I quickly discovered that I think they did what they did basically out of necessity, due to the Adizero template, specifically the cut of the underarms. You'll notice that the striping gets cut off there, which really ties a designer's hands as far as having different colors above and below the striping like the original jersey did. So I have a bit more sympathy now for why the jersey is all white, but the white equipment is still an... interesting... choice (though as I said at the beginning, between this and the neon third jersey, Dallas is not afraid to get weird, and more power to them for that), and I will continue to stand by my opinion that the silver in the logo was a bad choice simply because it completely disappears into the white jersey. While I'm generally not a fan of truncated striping (looking at you, Reebok Edge-era Oilers and Panthers), this pre-Edge design manages to pull it off, in my opinion, thanks to having the numbers fill the gap. And with the nostalgia factor of it being Dallas's first jersey design (and certainly a better choice than the generic Edge jerseys of the late '00s/early '10s), taking this fairly respectable jersey and doing something a little funky with it felt like a good option for the Stars.
  9. Pittsburgh Penguins The Pens have never been shy about digging through their closet of old jerseys for throwbacks, so I decided to double up on the nostalgia and go with the jersey that was both the team's second ever jersey (and first with a logo, after the inaugural season diagonal-text design) and the first Winter Classic jersey (and subsequent third jersey), and swap it into the club's current black and yellow scheme. I knew I wanted to do an era-mashup between the black-and-yellow and powder blue eras, but a number of the team's jerseys have actually already been done in both color schemes: When the team switched from powder blue to black and yellow, they simply kept the same jersey design and changed the colors, and there have of course been diagonal-text jerseys in both color schemes (albeit with different striping). The Vegas Gold Reebok Edge era was a non-starter for me, so this seemed like one of the options that was both best-looking and most likely to appeal to Pittsburgh fans if it were a real-life jersey. The color-swapping is straightforward: Powder blue becomes yellow, dark blue becomes black, and white stays. The only deviation is the numbers and NOB, which would have been white with a black outline (as seen in the captain's patch, which seemed legible enough to keep that way), but it wasn't a good look on a yellow jersey. But they do follow the logic of the '68-'70 white jersey, with the number color matching the sleeve cuffs and the number outline matching the shoulder yoke.
  10. Yeah, I definitely knew that this one would be more "unexpected" than "show-stopping," but I figured I'd go with it anyways! The jersey design itself is unfortunately bland (not terribly surprising for something from the 1930s), so the "centerpiece" in my mind is the melding of the Eagles' arched text with the Blues' logo. And now from the Blues to the Blue Jackets! Columbus Blue Jackets Same as with St. Louis, I've taken a team that literally has "Blue" in their name and un-redded their Reverse Retro. Columbus, though, has far fewer past jerseys to pick from, and I preferred to sort of "fix" their actual Reverse Retro rather than dig into the city's minor-league history. The only jerseys they've ever worn are this inaugural design, their current design, and their two third jerseys: the short-lived one with inexplicably black arms that at least introduced the current logo, and their current cannon alt. I find the 2003-'07 design to be rather uninspiring, and as fun as the cannon alt would be to use, it's not exactly "retro" since it's part of the current set! So I kept the template of their real-life Reverse Retro but changed the colors up differently. So how can having the jersey blue be a reversal? Because the inaugural jerseys were slightly different between the dark jersey and the white jersey, so I've taken the white jersey's design (which is indeed the same one they used in real life), with its contrasting sleeves and bigger hem stripe, and reversed it into a blue jersey. So rather than going white to red, blue to white, and red to blue, I went white to blue, blue to red, and red to white. This keeps the CBJ with a primarily blue jersey, and rather than having white arms and hems and sending blue all the way to the bottom of the order, red is the secondary color and white is the tertiary. I did keep the blue-and-red-reversed pants that went with the IRL Revers Retro, because they look good (better with this jersey than their normal red pants, IMO), and otherwise I'd have been reversing them to be white pants, which isn't exactly the aesthetic I was going for. But perhaps most importantly of all... STINGER IS BACK, BABY! (Which also means his lime green gets to make a cameo appearance in the manufacturer's name on the gloves, just as they did back in 2000.)
  11. I'm really liking the LA Blades identity; the logo is definitely the centerpiece of that brand, which is high praise for a wordmark logo, but that "LA" is a stroke of genius. The jersey/pants combo stripe is just weird enough for the RHL on an otherwise somewhat conservative jersey. I like the idea of the third jersey, but the "phantom" effect of the jersey/pants stripe with one color removed isn't quite doing it for me; it may be more fun to just go with an entirely different jersey design. I'll admit to not researching how much of the Rhinos identity is original and how much of it is a carryover from the real-life franchise, but I love everything about your concept other than the logo. The colors and the striping are fantastic, but something about the logo looks more "corporate" than "athletic" to me, that I can't quite figure out how to put into words. Maybe it needs to have more motion to it, and/or it could use just a little bit of a nudge towards detail and away from thick lines and blocky shapes? I'm not a logo designer, so I'm just trying to figure out the reason for what's ultimately a gut feeling. I also agree with the other comment that the name/number font is a little tough on the eyes. The Seattle Grunge is just a fantastic RHL identity. I'm definitely getting VGK vibes in the sense of "knowing exactly what we are and what we're trying to be, and leaning into it 110% and embracing the tackiness." Not much feedback other than that; it's not the most serious identity, but it's a lot of fun. And the Buffalo Wings are yet another great concept. Somehow, having a ton of different shades of each of the two colors still manages to actually work. I have sort of the same critique of the logo as I did of the Rhinos logo; it's at least got a nice feeling of motion to it, but the shape of the head (and to a lesser degree the wings) feels a little off. I love the number font, but the detail-oriented side of me wants to know, how would a single-digit player number be done? And I'm getting hungry just looking at that third; maybe it'll have the same effect on opponents? Awesome work! This series continues to be a ton of fun.
  12. St. Louis Blues I don't actually dislike the Blues' IRL Reverse Retro; it definitely understood the assignment, and it's fun and unexpected. That being said, seeing the Blues wear a jersey that's, well, not blue (or white) just doesn't sit right with me. (Spoiler alert: Same goes for the next team on the list, the Blue Jackets.) But despite the extensive number of jersey redesigns the team has undergone throughout its history, reversing a sweater but keeping it blue or white just isn't really possible; I could have reversed their two shades of blue, but that would have been underwhelming to say the least. So instead, the Blues become the final team of this series to dig into their city's hockey history and revive a past club's jersey! What you see is a Blues-ified version of the St. Louis Eagles' white, red, and blue jersey. The team may be somewhat of a footnote in NHL history, having played only the 1934-'35 season as a last-ditch effort to keep the Ottawa Senators 1.0 franchise alive, but it does represent the league's first presence in the Gateway City, which is certainly noteworthy. This Reverse Retro jersey obviously substitutes blue for the white base, yellow for the blue striping, and dark blue for the red logo and sock stripe. The logo retains the Eagles' arched text, but replaces the eagle with the blue note, and the text is recolored to match the dark blue-yellow-white color and outlining of the Blues logo. I made the number yellow with a white outline for legibility, since recoloring the original red number to be dark blue on a blue jersey would have been pretty ridiculous. And the pants match the design of the Eagles', with the single moderate-thickness stripe, but I went with dark blue and a yellow stripe for the sake of aesthetics. As with my Blackhawks, concept, I used the crewneck collar, which I'm making an effort to do for all of my Reverse Retros that are from around 1940 and earlier.
  13. Here are a pair of alternate Seattle versions, updated to be a more contemporary hybrid of the Totems' and Kraken's aesthetics, based on @johne9109 and @B-mer's suggestions. Both versions remove the front number and move the captain's patch back to its more conventional location, and replace the Totems' block font with the Kraken's actual font for the number and NOB (stick-tap to Icethetics for that). Version #1 swaps out "KRAKEN" for "SEATTLE" in order to make use of the team's S logo, mimicking the Totems' use of their T-shaped logo, per johne's suggestion. I thought my best bet might be to create a "T" and an "L" to match the Kraken's wordmark logo and spell out "EATTLE" with that font, but unfortunately I couldn't pull it off. I quickly realized that the wordmark letters don't have any horizontal bars, just vertical and slanted lines, and building a "T" and an "L" with that slant just looked awkward; I didn't even get a chance to try adding on the beveled effect, because just the shapes alone looked pretty bad. I ended up using the Kraken's NOB font (the "shorter and squatter" version from that earlier Icethetics image I linked to), but did keep the drop-shadow as homage to the Totems. Since I really like the Kraken wordmark, though, I also created Version #2... ...which returns to my original concept of having the team nickname instead of the city name, but instead of using the Totems' block letters, just straight up uses that Kraken wordmark in all its glory. I made the letters red, since B-mer and I agreed that that looked really sharp, which did require the introduction of a new shade of red to the palette in order to keep the beveled effect, and I gave them the Deep Sea Blue outline, but no drop-shadow, as the bevel + drop-shadow would have been too much going on visually. I may have erred a little on the large side as far as the size of the letters, but it certainly makes a statement!
  14. I'll be honest, I'd partly stayed away from the Storm Jersey because I was just a little bit intimidated recreating it on the Adizero template in MS Paint (the waves and rain are easy enough to trace, but the lightning bolts on the arms could go either way, and I don't believe I've seen the number font in the old Paint User's Paradise thread that I still pull a lot of stuff from). But since I'd finished all the teams before starting this thread, I'll probably spend the time seeing if I can pull that jersey off, because it would definitely be fun! And reversing it to have a black sky and blue waves would honestly make more sense than the original, from a natural world perspective... Thanks! I'm not a huge fan of the front number either, but I figured I'd stick with historical accuracy to start with, and maybe adjust things to fit more modern sensibilities afterwards. And agreed about the red; the Kraken's actual jerseys with the tiny red accent works well, but honestly just their whole color scheme is a gift to work with, and looks good in all different combinations, and making the deep blue a secondary color instead of the primary color definitely allowed for the red to get promoted a bit. Next up... Colorado Avalanche The Avs still get a white Reverse Retro, but one of their own jerseys instead of the Nordiques. I've used their first-ever alternate jersey, the 2007 maroon diagonal text design (which is the superior of their diagonal text alts, in my opinion). Besides reversing white and maroon, I also eliminated black (shoulder patch logo excepted) and introduced silver, in keeping with the direction that the team's look has been gradually moving in recent years. So everything that used to be black is now blue, and everything that used to be blue is now silver. The pants go maroon to help balance out the large swaths of blue that are in the hem striping and socks, and the collar laces stay white instead of switching to maroon because I just felt like it looked better. (As I mentioned earlier with equipment, the color of collar laces is another part of the uniforms that I'm either reversing or not-reversing on a case-by-case basis throughout the series.)
  15. I second the comment that either the black or the charcoal gray jersey would work better as white (and probably change the black one, since charcoal is a slightly more unique color to keep), but aside from that, good ASG concept! I wish the NHL would do 4 unique, non-clashing jerseys for the four divisions again, but unfortunately I don't expect them to return to that... We can dream, though. Looking at past ASG jerseys (particularly 2017), I think an original (but "Vegas-inspired") design in the four Golden Knights colors would be more realistic than color-swapping Vegas's actual jersey template, so players don't look like they're wearing a rival team's jersey. Looking forward to the Winter Classic and Stadium Series jersey concepts!
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