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Jaguars and apparently the Giants and Vikings will debut new Throwbacks/Alts soon…is anyone else rumored to be doing anything?  
 

Anyone have a list of alt uniforms & helmets yet to be unveiled for the ‘24 season?

54 minutes ago, coborjobs2010 said:

loving this combo

I do too.  Not sure how I’ll like it with either helmet.   A White helmet with Navy facemask would’ve been great with these.

17 minutes ago, LAWeaver said:

I could maybe see the Rams and Dolphins tweaking their looks, especially with the popularity of Miami's throwback uniforms. 

 

The Saints are in dire need of an update too.

Saints, good call.  Would be nice to see them switch to the Throwback/Color Rush unis permanently with an updated helmet color shell to match.

8 minutes ago, Chawls said:

Maybe it’s too soon to be asking this now, but who’s on the shortlist of teams who need a uniform overhaul now that the Bengals, Cardinals, and Broncos have all updated their looks?

 

I elect the Jaguars and Commanders. 

Falcons.  

Ravens need to but they seem content to stick with what they have.

I think the Titans will be eligible, maybe they’ll want to return to a more classic or updated Oilers look.

Eagles need to, but I think that wordmark change reset their clock.

Commanders - will be interesting to see if they rebrand, and if they wait until stadium plans are finalized before they do, or if they just decide to do new uniforms quickly with the new ownership waiver.

My wildcard is Seattle.  New HC Mike Macdonald is putting his stamp on that team.  Just read they’ve taken down all of the old Pete Carroll slogans and wall murals featuring past players and that they want the team to enter a new era with their own identity.  Makes sense that they might want to update their 2012 look.

I wouldn’t be surprised though if no team updated in 2025.

Love the primary home & away uniforms.  

The home is classy, though the 1-color TV numbers don’t make sense to me.  
 

The away is an improvement and I like the change to Navy numbers.  

The red alternate is no good.  Too much red.

The H-Town alt isn’t as bad as I thought.  
 

One major thing I noticed is the difference in some of the decoration materials used here; from FlexStyle logo patches to the materials used on the numbers and pant striping, it really adds to the simplicity of the design.

Number font & helmet finish are also a big improvement.

9 minutes ago, aawagner011 said:

Just because you have so many possible combos does not mean you need to show off all of them!

 

 

These have a couple redeeming qualities but definitely a few too many pieces of flair. They didn’t know when to stop and just said “give me all of it.”

Here’s the fix:

1.  Navy Helmet

2. Orange Jersey (home) White Jersey (away)

3. White Pants

4.  Navy Socks

This is all the team should ever wear.  The White helmet, Navy uniform, Orange pants, and Orange and White socks should all go in the incinerator.

We need to shame these teams out of thinking all of these combos are necessary.   All it does is devalue the primary look and water down the identity.

So, eating crow here.

I thought these would be horrendous. 

Turns out they are a huge upgrade.  The videos that they created for these also were absolutely top-notch.  They hit me right where it mattered:  they went just about full John Dutton in Yellowstone in the Mile High Collection video (and Ford Broncos will always be cool) and they took it back to the 80's with the Throwback video.  This is coming from a diehard Chiefs fan who hates the Donkeys.

PROS: Jersey, pant, and helmet are all solid and all upgrades.   The small details are done well, not obnoxious.  I dig the small triangles as a separator.  Love the helmet finish.  Didn't think I'd like the number font but it's absolutely an upgrade.  

CONS:  The 5280 helmet bumper bothers me, as does putting it on the pant stripe.  The elmet stripe is silly.  The set does give off Virginia/Arizona vibes due to all of the combos.  The White helmet is pointless if not being worn with the White uniform.  And the Stripe should be Navy/Orange, not White/Navy.  I only like the Orange pants with the Orange jersey.  Mono-Navy is no good.  I hate the Navy over White too.  

Congrats, Broncos fans.

23 minutes ago, Blast_Brothers said:

 

The Broncos remains unchanged.

It's a pity they didn't update the font.

18 minutes ago, Lights Out said:

 

These uniforms lasted almost as long as the ones they replaced. I'd say they did stand the test of time.

Respectfully, if they're being replaced, they aren't standing the test of time.  

I'm comparing these to teams like Pittsburgh, Chicago, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Green Bay, etc.

2 minutes ago, Brave-Bird 08 said:

Everyone give this baby one last good look (always loved it and will never apologize for it, just didn't mold well onto modern templates)

 

I remember when these debuted...it was a big deal.  This striping pattern resonated down through high school football for over a decade.   

But, it's run its course (years overdue) and it's yet another example of why non-traditional uniform elements typically don't stand the test of time.

12 minutes ago, rfraser85 said:

Looks like the Ravens are adding a new helmet.

 

Source: Ravens Adding New Alternate Helmet (uni-watch.com)

 

Based on the color description, this helmet will most likely be for the CR uniform. I'm a little disappointed because I liked that the Ravens were able to stick with one helmet for all jerseys, but at it will match the CR. I didn't like most of CR, but I did like the uniforms better if the base color matched the helmet shells (such as Steelers, Texans, Vikings).

Nice find, thanks for sharing.   Article states that it's likely Purple with a Gold facemask.  Will be interesting to see what striping and paint finish they use.  The Vikings' satin Purple would be really great for the Ravens, but it's unlikely they'll use it.   My guess is metallic fleck, but maybe there's something new & interesting they can do to give it unique twist that's on-brand.   It will be fun to see that alternate logo on the side of the helmet.

Hopefully this opens them up to permanently changing the paint finish & striping to their standard helmet at some point, as that a number font update are all they really need.

11 minutes ago, PlayGloria said:

Might be an unpopular opinion,  but I like the silver, white, purple combo of that Vikings jersey. The icicle numbers are not my favorite element, though. If this was just a straight recolor from their home/away set, I think I would actually dig it as an alternate.

 

I'm also guessing that their alternate helmet will be white? Part of me wants to already hate it because of the "icy" twitter stuff, but I am finding that I kind of like the idea of this specifically because it is for Minnesota and it is actually a cold weather state

Just feels very odd that teams are now potentially getting away from primary colors completely in alternates.  I can't imagine seeing a 49ers uniform without Red or a Steelers uniform without Athletic Gold.  If this begins to happen, I'll just be schocked that the NFL permitted it.

11 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

Sarcasm?

 

They either only showed the guys who said they liked them, pressured the guys into saying they liked them, or the guys felt like they needed to say they liked them.

Right?  It's not like any of these guys are going to walk up and say, "Hey, these are dog:censored:."

2 minutes ago, McCall said:

How does the Chiefs winning Super Bowls validate your statement about Bills fans clamoring for the return of the Jim Kelly era uniforms?

How does your douchebag reply to my comment prove they aren't?

This board is super enjoyable...except when the few contrarian pricks aren't chiming in to :censored: on other people's opinions. 

If you don't agree with someone's opinion or statement, you can use the react buttons or you can offer an opposing opinion in a respectful way.  You don't have to be an :censored:, though I know it makes you feel better (in a really pathetic, lonely way).

5 hours ago, BBTV said:

 

Paul's  piece.  But that part was interesting for two reasons.

 

1. the timing.  He said 2015 or 2016, which kindasorta lines up with when they started lobbying for the kelly green helmet to "test" a return to the color by first using it as an alt.   The story says that Lurie got cold feet and thought he should just keep the current uniform, which validates his desire to "test" it first.

 

2. after he nixed the redesign, he asked for "just give me some cool pants stripes, something that's never been done" (paraphrasing.). The proposals that were shown in the article were rather tame, but Lurie just swiped left.

 

As for a rumor that he'd "never change", that's simply not true.   He's flat out said that he'd consider it.  But they're very conservative and brand conscious and aren't going to make any decision that's not very well thought out (note - I didn't say well executed, just well thought out.)

 

*the wordmark fiasco would seem to run contrary to what I just said, since it wasn't timed right to get on the uniform in time, though we don't know the fully story there (like, maybe they were told it was minor enough to not require 2 years, or something like that.)

Paul, yes, thank you.  I mistakenly interchange Paul Lukas and Uni-Watch Deputy Editor and heir apparent Phil Hecken all the time.  Appreciate the correction.

So many "that's fire" comments in this short clip that I want to light myself on fire.

20 minutes ago, Chromatic said:

 

Looks like a Habs jersey you'd see on one of those "What if the NHL played football" concepts.

I also don't buy this one.   They just brought back the Lawrence Taylor home & aways over the last few years.  Why would they change Throwbacks when those have been so well-received?  Especially when Mara is so resistant to uniform changes.

I hope all of these CTESPN "leaks" are bull:censored:, because that would at least give me hope for the Broncos & Texans through Tuesday.

19 minutes ago, Kirill_The_Thrill97 said:

CTESPN's alleged leak of a new Vikings alternate...

I have a hard time believing these are legitimate.  That Vikings wordmark is not official and it looks like Nike's generic "BUREAU" font.  And why would they use a differnet jersey number font?  Doesn't add up.

4 hours ago, McCall said:

You misspelled your own name. That's gotta be embarrassing.

 Chiefs fan, here…I’ve got nothing to be embarrassed about.

1 hour ago, DCarp1231 said:

The problem with the Commanders change is even with the waiver, they’re still looking at changing after 2026. We’d be lucky to get them by 2025.

I do hope, for you and all Washington fans, that it’s as soon as possible.

3 hours ago, burgundy said:

 

How are the Bills a likely candidate for new uniforms? They have a very solid look that the team and fans seem very happy with.

 

Washington isn't just a candidate, they are 100% getting new uniforms, and probably a new name (again).

 

The Eagles won't change their uniforms while Jeffrey Lurie owns the team, no matter how much everybody wants them to change.

 

Lot of assumptions here.

Lots of Bills fans lobbying for a return the Jim Kelly-era uniforms.

Washington hasn’t confirmed any of those details, though I would welcome both.

Phil’s recent Nike pieces mentioned that Laurie considered changing uniforms, shooting a hole in that longstanding rumor that Lurie would never change.

58 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

2020 saw a record 8 redesign teams. They’ll have the opportunity to change after this season. There’s not a whole lot of information to suggest any of them will change their uniforms. So it’s speculative as of now.

 

Team (% chance of change)

 

• Falcons (85%)

• Rams (35%)

• Patriots (25%)

• Bengals, Browns, Buccaneers, Chargers, Colts (0-10%)

 

- Atlanta needs a complete overhaul

 

-Rams are fine, but I could see them tweaking a couple things such as the number texture and gradient use. Also ditching the bone uniform.

 

- If the Patriots learn to use the grey/silver pants more, then they wouldn’t need to change, but I could also see them upgrading the throwbacks into primary status.

 

- The rest are great and don’t need drastic changes. The only change out of any of them I could see is Cincinnati not being idiots and consolidating the two pairs of white pants into one.

Praying for a Falcons update.  
 

Pats just need to ditch the Navy pants,

but with Bill gone and new rookie franchise QB, you have to wonder if the Krafts & Mayo will want to go in a completely new direction.

I doubt the Rams will change.

Most likely candidates for new uniforms:

Bills

Commanders (new ownership waiver)

Eagles

Seahawks

Titans

Wild Cards:

Dolphins (unlikely)

Giants (unlikely)

Jaguars

Panthers

Ravens (unlikely)

Saints

2 hours ago, JustABallCoach said:

I’ve got a feeling the Texans are going to have 3 helmets

navy

navy w/ flake

red

 

seems like such a waste of the 3 helmet rule if they go that route. You can’t see the flake unless super close. 

And a travesty that one of these helmets isn't a White helmet.

1 hour ago, 8BW14 said:

All of the triangles is the Broncos design tells me that whoever was pushing this redesign did not understand the assignment. Say what you will about the outgoing uniforms, but those were a cohesive whole. The logo is dynamic. The curves convey speed, power and grace of a bronco and it carries over into the striping of the jersey and pants.
They new uniforms apparently emphasize snow-capped mountains. There are triangles everywhere. Straight lines, hard edges, mountains. The last time I checked, the team was still called the Broncos. What are they doing? It doesn’t have to have a “theme” or tell a story about #Colorado. They’ll be back to something reminiscent of either of their previous uniforms in 5 years.

The Penner family probably just said, "Make it cool."

I trust Wal-Mart people to sell me cat food and :censored: paper.  I don't trust Wal-Mart people to sell me anything I'd wear on my person.  

This is what the league deserves to selling a club to Wal-Mart people.

3 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

How do you figure?

You know, the old saying, “The Browns are gonna Browns.”  
 

If this is the new helmet and the jersey leaks are real, this will be an all-time “shot yourselves in the foot” move by the Donkeys.  Laughingstock stuff.