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  1. 6 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

    With the Twins putting up historically bad numbers, I was a bit checked out.  

    Today I saw that Otani has 13 home runs and a 2.10 ERA. This is the kind of thing I always thought would happen when I was a kid because I didn't "get it."  If this was 30 years ago, it might even take sports-news priority over the daily repetitive coverage of an unhappy QB in May.

    I feel like we're talking about Ohtani a lot and simultaneously not enough. I always figured that a good hitting pitcher would be just kind of good at both hitting and pitching, or really good at pitching and just good enough to get use at the plate sometimes (and there's been a few NL guys who fit that description), but I never imagined the guy would be Babe Ruth. 

  2. I question the quality of their focus-grouping because if they'd talked to a single Crew fan any one of them would tell them the one thing they wanted was just remove SC from the name. Instead they left SC and removed Crew, which is almost comical in its defiance of the fanbase's wishes. 


    Now that the name is saved they need to do something about the rest of the logo because I don't see anything worth saving there. And now they'll be forced to cram elements into spaces they weren't designed to fit into, which will only make things worse. Best to just start over because after goofing around with some Crew/Ohio burgee ideas I have come to the conclusion that the entire concept simply does not work. Knowing the people who worked on this and what they're capable of, I get the impression that they were given a directive from above and forced to do their best with that direction. The fonts, patterns, and general art direction excluding the logo suggests a modicum of competence in that regard.


    First, here's my main issues I have with the logo from a design standpoint:

    1. Too different from the actual state flag to read as the state flag. The colors create an instant disconnect and it's missing the 3 stripes and circle so the only connection to the actual flag is the vague shape, but with it being positioned vertically, a way we here in Ohio rarely glimpse the flag, it creates another visual leap.  

    2. The flag shape and the letter C aren't natural partners. To cram it into that shape requires a lopped off random triangle be created and a C shaped in a way that isn't visually pleasing.

    3. The choice to leave the top corners open is also curious as it leaves two negative space areas inside of the pennant. The C's already distorted to meet the shape on the bottom, why angle it on the top in such a way rather than having it follow the pennant edges? 

    4. Their new neighbors in the Arena District already employ the Ohio flag in their primary logo, have used the logo in some capacity since 2003, and do it a lot better. 


    Again, the logo wasn't anybody's big gripe with Anthony Precourt. What they should've done is nothing. 


  3. 15 hours ago, the admiral said:

    I always felt like ESPN did well with baseball and the NHL but did poorly with the NFL and NBA, where they've always seemed overextended or in over their heads. I can't say I like this, but I guess linear media doesn't matter anymore anyway.


    You're right and it's probably that they have so much internal attention focused on the NFL and NBA that there's too many big shot decision makers while the NHL and MLB teams get to be more loose. It's like how Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip got all the network notes while 30 Rock was this dumb little show that got to do whatever they wanted. 

  4. I got to go!




    I had no plans to go to this game and no plans as of yet to go to another game. Was going to play it by ear and my wife and I would maybe try to get to the third or fourth game when things are more open. 45 minutes before the game a friend I met when we were both living in Seattle, who I didn't even know was in town, texted me and asked if I wanted to use his extra ticket. I said "hell yeah" and less than a half hour later I was standing in The Bailey. Guys, this stadium is gorgeous, the location is perfect, the Bailey is super loud, and I can't wait to see this place at full capacity. I think they've nailed almost everything. I think this place is going to become a destination for visiting fans. It's right in the Cincinnati experience, walkable from OTR's bars and restaurants, right off the streetcar line, and the atmosphere even with reduced capacity was electric. The whole time I was standing there I couldn't believe it was real or that I got to be there. 


    Classic Cincinnati loss, though. They had all the momentum and tied it in the 83rd minute and I thought "they have a lot of time left to go win this thing", which was dumb on my part. Cincinnati kid Nick Hagglund comes in and ties it and the place is rocking and with everybody still patting each other on the back for the comeback, Miami strolls down the field and scores their third cheapie of the day. At least we got two goals and got to see the place cheer for something because it would've been ultra lame to leave without experiencing that. 


    10/10 would go again. 





  5. 1 hour ago, BC985 said:

    I just imagine someone around a conference table making the argument the club needs to change its name to Columbus because Barcelona doesn’t have a moniker like Crew attached to it. 

    You joke, but I think that’s literally the chief reason they made this decision. They wanted people to say “Columbus” when they talk about the team, not “the Crew”. It’s dumb as hell. 

  6. 15 minutes ago, monkeypower said:


    I think they were trying to keep the half-circle thing at the bottom going and then though the straight ends of the R and S fit the arc better? I don't know. The real answer is because it was (poorly) designed back in the '70s and hasn't been updated, so it still has the, ahem, quirks of something designed in the '70s.


    The bottoms of "drips" also aren't evenly spaced with the outside circle either. I think @Sport fixed it once?


    I'm amazed I was able to find this. 



  7. 38 minutes ago, SpenserRM said:

    It's been 2 days since this stuff leaked and I have yet to see ANY fan here actually support anything about this rebrand. We have former players coming out against it, we had at least one player tell our local sports radio that the team is unhappy about it, and my 75 year old grandma is even pissed about it. I didn't think it would be possible for the Haslams to turn this fanbase against them after all they've done but here we are. Ridiculous. 


    It's remarkable, isn't it? Normally I think backlash against a new look is kind of over the top and people will usually settle down, but in this case I think all the heat the team is getting is fully justified. If all they had done was change the logo to that thing it'd be awful just from a fundamental design standpoint, but on top of that they made the unnecessary step of changing the name, which is a total slap in the face to the fans who just killed themselves to save the team. It's almost impressive how quickly the owners, who've done everything else right so far, could light all their goodwill on fire. There's a story in the Athletic about them bringing members of the supporters group into see it and they expected the fans to be thrilled and were puzzled when instead it was met with anger and confusion. It's hard to be that incredibly tonedeaf. 


    I think I know the guys who worked on it and they're usually good, which means some bad decision makers wrestled too much creative control. These are the same owners who thought this was a good idea:




  8. 1 hour ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

    The brand reeks of stupid people thinking they're smart.


    Can you imagine if Hank and Hal Steinbrenner decided the interlocking NY didn't celebrate the Yankees brand enough?


    There's a certain grace to leaving well enough alone. Especially the season after winning a title.


    Sometimes Most of the time the best move is not making a move. What they should've done is nothing. 


    6 minutes ago, panthers_2012 said:

    Regarding the Crew: they could've done better.


    I thing they wanted to shead the "Columbus Crew SC" badge because of all the negativity with it (more owner than anything), but they could've called themselves "Columbus Crew" or "Crew SC".


    As many people have pointed out, "Save the Crew" will forever be a part of Columbus soccer and if they don't want to embrace it, fine. But don't get mad/upset when fans are angry because you changed the name, again.


    Clearly trying to rebrand because the roundel was a Precourt creation, but the logo wasn't anybody's big gripe with Precourt. I always clocked that the Precourt badge was rather popular with fans, EXCEPT for the SC they insisted on adding to the name. So the new ownership group throws out everything except they keep the SC, which is the one part of the old brand that nobody liked. It's like they didn't talk to any of the fans. It's like they made a bad choice at every possible decision. It's such a masterclass in how to not to rebrand, I can't even believe it's real. 




    16 minutes ago, Magic Dynasty said:


    "Forever known as the Crew," they say while teasing a rebrand where they will no longer be known as the Crew.


    I feel like they might be walking backwards now after seeing the backlash. They'll say something like "the C stands for CREW!" although that's not what they initially intended. 


    As for the leaked logo, I say this as someone who loves our pennant shaped flag and the hockey team who uses it in the logo - the state flag has become this crutch for facebook marketplace caliber design and pinterest bullcrap and if you're going to incorporate the flag's elements into your logo, do it better than this. 

  10. Changing the Crew's name is one of the dumbest branding decisions I've ever seen. You have brand equity that you simply cannot buy - 2 cups, original franchise, and the story of a grassroots effort led by fans who fought tooth and nail to save the crew. Every franchise in MLS would love to have something like that associated with their name and they're just going to toss it and for why? No amount of market research would've indicated that this was the right move, which leads me to believe that they didn't do any and this is just classic hot shot execs thinking they're smarter than the commoners. And now they've needlessly alienated fans who are forced to #SavetheCrew all over again. I can't believe I'm out here while numbskulls get paid a killing to be that f****** stupid. 

  11. 14 hours ago, Cosmic said:

    Would there be any blowback at all if the league had suspended Tom Wilson like they should have? Dude just returned from a seven game suspension six weeks ago! This is nuts. I hope we can put that Dolan pettiness to good use for once.


    Even John Scott thought it crossed a line. If they had suspended Wilson for the rest of the season and said "you do it again next year and you're done for good" then I think everyone except dumb Caps fans would've been pleased. Parros listed "it was just two guys wrestling" in his decision not to suspend him, which is insane. Yeah, George, just a couple of knuckleheads' roughhousin', boys will be boys indeed. Nobody was nearly murdered by a player out there or anything. The guy who did it isn't the example of a repeat offender or anything. 

  12. Those Royals ultimately proved they were pretty good, though. 


    I'm old enough to remember Cardinals fans behavior towards him was the same way Cleveland fans reacted the first time Lebron left Cleveland. The difference being that Pujols' departure was literally minutes after Pujols had helped them win a second World Series. It still doesn't make sense to me. 

  13. 50 minutes ago, CS85 said:


    The navy alts are objectively one of the worst jerseys in hockey.  The orange homes are in a different tier of quality altogether.  I don't understand why Edmonton keeps trying so hard to not be the Oilers.  They should be one of those franchises that stubbornly stood by a great look instead of doing this dipsy-doo oopsy-daisy uniform gaffe time after time after time.



    That's what's so insane is they fixed their mistakes of the 90's and went back to their correct uniforms only do whatever they're doing now. I do not understand what the strategy or thought process is with their recent uniform decisions. It'd be like if the Blue Jays started wearing black and graphite again. 

  14. On 5/5/2021 at 1:37 AM, Morgan33 said:

    It's been 14 years and the Blue Jackets main jerseys still feel like a downgrade from the alternate they were inspired from...  If they kept black away but returned to this more substantial template, I don't think they'd have to worry about blue pants at home...  The thicker striping makes a huge difference and I'll never understand why they minimized the stars on the sleeves.  It was unique how they ran all the way up to the numbers...



    ...and bring back the hat.


    It's my favorite jersey they've ever worn which is why when they played their first home game ever in the second round of the playoffs I elected to wear that jersey.


    I disagree about losing black. That gave it some extra bite that the jersey just lacks without it. 

  15. I'm not going to get into why the Browns orange-brown-orange stripes are correct again because I've done that too many times. The real issue with their pants is the stripe is too thick. They need to go back to what they had in the 80's, which was a thinner stripe, similar to what the Chiefs use. Fits the old school look better and because the size differs from the helmet it doesn't need to be consistent. 



    What the Pats should do


    Single outlined numbers, the stripe mimics the stripe on the American flag (and the logo) and is consistent on every background, and you don't have that ugly red-blue-red stripe anywhere. Also replaces the useless repeating logo on the sleeves with numbers. 

  16. So the Nick Castellanos suspension was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. This is a whole lot dumber. 



    Baez jumps the dugout railing and walks towards Garrett, which like Molina's behavior in the first series of the year was the real reason the benches cleared. It makes zero sense. By MLB's logic the Reds should start running out of the dugout any time an opponent gets exuberant and then that guy will get suspended. Something tells me justice wouldn't be applied consistently.



  17. 13 minutes ago, infrared41 said:


    It's nice, isn't it?


    It's wonderful and peaceful. It happened when they lost to the Steelers in the playoffs in 2015. I said after that I will never let the team negatively affect my mood ever again. It took some work, but now I've reached this zen state that I don't even need to work at anymore. They lost to the Browns last year on a last minute TD pass by Baker Mayfield and 20 year old me would've been grouchy for 3 days. 33 year old me just said "welp that sucks what's for dinner?". I think Wally Wallpunchers everywhere needs to do some inward looking themselves. 

  18. Yeah that's gross and those people don't appear to have a healthy relationship. I used to break things after tough sports losses, but then I turned 20. I definitely haven't gotten physically angry about a sports result since some things happened in my life that framed all these silly games in their proper perspective. It's just sports*. The most baffling Bengals fans to me are the ones who still behave like Wally Wallpuncher up there. Like how have you guys not learned by now how to not let this team affect your mood? 


    That guy's like 42 and has a family, though. If he hasn't learned to chill TFO by now then he's probably just stupid and pampered. I'd suggest he and his wife seek counseling. 



    *also I've gotten to meet and work with some professional athletes and people who work in sports and it is incredible how Just A Job it is. I still have my preferred teams, but mostly I just watch the games for the pure entertainment of the games themselves now and care less about winning and losing.

  19. Emil Bemstrom didn't have a goal in 16 games with the Blue Jackets this season and then scored a hat trick in the third period to come back from a 3-0 deficit. Nashville won in OT. Hockey is weird. 


    Unrelated to anything - I'm very bored of the other 7 teams in the Central Division presented by Discover Card and I'm looking forward to playing the rest of the league again next year. I'd be more than okay to never play the two Florida teams ever again. Can't believe this is how the O6 was for like 30 years. 

  20. In a not even winking parody of The Ringer's frequent "TEAM X Week" thing that they've done (they had a Browns Week once WTF), Defector is having Senators Week and it's delighted me endlessly. 




    Just a bunch of self-serious in-depth articles about the Ottawa Senators and not serious articles about US Senators. 

  21. It's worse than that. The Capitals official twitter account decided to tweet whatever TF this was just minutes after he tried to murder Panarin.



    I don't get what they were even trying to do. That's like six memes on top of each other to the point that it's nonsensical and in context was incredibly tonedeaf. They got some well deserved backlash, deleted the tweet, and then got more well-deserved backlash. 


    Tom Wilson needs to sit for the rest of the season and playoffs and then a council needs to review his case to play next year. If he does anything again he gets to finish his career in the KHL. So sick of his bulls***. 

  22. On 4/30/2021 at 5:33 PM, Brass said:


    Yes they would. It's why jokes have endured on these forums regarding a handful of insufferable fans from other sports teams. Ever heard of "New England-jacked" in a thread? No, you haven't, because it's "Clevejacked." Anyone ever joked about turning the TD Garden into a parking lot? No, you haven't, because that's what those 1-2 Coyotes fans are for. The people here don't target you because you're a Boston sports fan. They target you for your method going about it. We're not victims of a blown call during a game or concentrated attacks from other fan bases. Let other teams celebrate and have hope before talking about how meaningless and insignificant their teams are. It's SPORTS. We don't need to convince others how successful our franchises have been. They disagree? COOL. Let them. Move on.


    We've had/currently have some really great Boston fans here who have shown that not all Boston fans are Medford asshats. We've done a great job building that up. We prefer you don't ruin it. Are we defensive about our teams? Absolutely! But you need to maintain perspective. We've had an amazing run for our teams since 2000, and we're speaking from a position of privilege. We cannot forget that. Not all have been as fortunate as we have been. We have n-o-t-h-i-n-g to complain about now nor for the next maybe 10-15 years. I don't know, ask @Sport. He mentioned something like that a while back. Gave a solid timeline.


    Not trying to play mod here, so if I am overstepping the line, please edit.


    10-15 years of straight SUCK, nothing going right, players demanding trades, coaches fistfighting, unwatchable, hopeless football would be the bare minimum punishment for the horrific atrocities the Patriots perpetrated over the last 20 years. See the 49ers as an example. Their fans had it better than anyone for about 15 years and then got knocked down a few pegs and now they can wrestle around in the muck with the rest of us. Cowboys fans too, I suppose. Truthfully, though, if you guys went the rest of your lives and never saw a Boston team win another championship you'd still have more than your fair share. 


    To add to your point - punching down is lame in any situation. It's ULTRA F****** LAME when you're doing it from some high horse you didn't even earn, which is what being a fan of a good team is. None of us have anything to do with anything these teams do win or lose so don't be snotty when a usually bad team gets a piece of good fortune. 


    I can make fun of the Bears because my team is similarly low status (even lower status, I'd argue). Patriots fans cannot make fun of the Bears unless you wanna look like a dick and get called out by people. 

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