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15 minutes ago, the admiral said:

How young and hungry or old and desperate do you have to be to take the Panthers job this offseason? Your #1OA quarterback you traded up for is a boy among men, the rest of your roster around him sucks ass, and you have no first-round pick this year to show for it because you also traded that (and your #1 WR) to the Bears, who are somehow possibly an even dumber franchise than yours. This is a job for the guy who gets coffee for the guy who gets coffee for Sean McVay, or, like, Ken Whisenhunt.

I was gonna say "what's Dom Capers up to these days?" as a joke and then I looked it up and he's an assistant coach on the Panthers right now! Give him his old job back. It'll be funny. 

9 minutes ago, the admiral said:

Remember when the Panthers were owned by a regional hamburger franchise baron who would be like "why honey I do declare you must have been poured into those jeans" and called guys the n-word? In a limited sense, they downgraded from that!

Richardson never had a Rock Hill situation like Tepper's had and he was smart enough to draft Cam Newton. Tepper has a long way to go to reach Snyder tier, but he's showing a lot of early promise. 

2 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

That job is reserved for the officials.

He should've stayed a minority owner with the Steelers. The Panthers will never get these calls. 

They threw a flag on this touchdown for holding and then after some deliberation determined that it was time for the league-mandated, conveniently timed, exceptionally bad call the Steelers are gifted every week and picked it up. They threw a holding flag on the Bengals offense a couple plays later on a hold that was 1/4th as bad as the one pictured here so the Bengals got :censored:ed coming and going. My Steelers friend finally admitted the Steelers get a lot of help from the officials so if any steelers fans want to argue this you can talk to him. 

Tepper is an Owner to Watch. He's a meddler and meddler's can be very fun. They don't know what they're doing, but they think they can alpha boss their way into sports championships the same way they alpha bossed themselves to a fortune with their hedge fund scams and it doesn't work in sports because sports don't let you game the system in the same way. 

I know too many Columbus Crew fans. This game will either be very fun or one of the worst sports losses ever. I'm truly nonplussed at how invested I am in an MLS game. This is exactly how I felt when the Bengals were in the AFC Championship the last two years. 

Everyone is 5 plays away from being [significantly different record]. That's how the NFL works. 

Some of you might be tempted to take the Steelers seriously and I am warning you do not fall for it again. Look at their schedule and then look at who they have left. That is a bad football team living off of a Steelersy run of fortunate scheduling. The Eagles aren't last year's Vikings (another really :censored:ing stupid take from our friend up thread), the Steelers are, except they're worse. 

2 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

Pretty sure @Sport was on IR for the Tennessee game in 2021. If memory serves, he pulled a muscle playing golf.

I re-injured a 20 year old hockey injury to my clavicle by playing too much golf, thank you very much. 

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Steelers fans think all their players are super special boys touched by football angels simply by being deemed worthy of the hypocycloids*. Canada wasn't great, but he got all the blame because Steelers fans don't know how to reckon with a bad team. He was clearly calling an offense that had to work with a limited personnel set. It's going to be evident the rest of the season with Canada gone that Kenny Pickett and the o-line were the real problems. 

*I don't even blame them for thinking that - 30+ years of conditioning watching every Pluggy Plug show up and turn into pro-bowlers would do that to you. Of course they expected Kenny Pickett to be good - the Steelers chose him. They had no reason to think otherwise. Even this season is more of the same charmed luck. They've played 10 games and seen maybe one good QB? They still have two games left against Jake Browning. That's a 3-7 football that has 6 wins. 

21 hours ago, Kramerica Industries said:

 

I agree with the second sentence...I'm pretty sure the rules of a safety are the opposite of a touchdown, right? If you're the ball carrier and any part of the ball is still inside the plane of the endzone, it's a safety; the entire ball needs to be outside the endzone.

 

Browns ended up scoring a touchdown on the ensuing drive set up by the good field position...I dunno, maybe it was a strategic gamble. I don't see the DTR-Browns doing the safety/touchdown double dip.

Stefanski tried to challenge it and the refs either ignored the red flag or didn't see it.

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13 hours ago, BBTV said:

 

That's not the only other option.

 

 

They did have a choice.  They chose to ask their fan base, which includes thousand of women, to cheer for a man that was accused of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women.  Very few athletes are spotless, but putting people in a position where their kids are going to ask for #4 jerseys or even look up to him is irresponsible.

 

You act like they did the only thing they could do to get a franchise qb in house, but the irony in your statement is that what they did only serves to highlight the incompetence that's put them in the position to have to do it in the first place.  It's a circle of crap, and it's disgusting that there's people that support bringing him in under the circumstances at the time.

 

The Browns are poorly run from the top down.  It's that simply.  Nearly every other team (other than the Lions) accidentally backs into a year where they at least reach a championship game, or find a franchise QB in the 2nd round or later, or is smart and builds their lines doesn't waste money on running backs, but the Browns can do none of this.   

 

I feel for fans - I really do.  But they had choices.  And the ones they made make it impossible to wish anything other than 3-14 seasons on them until that contract is up.

 

 

Also, the fans have choices too. You can be a Browns fan without being one of these weird Watson hard-ons. 

I don't think normal people Browns fans deserve this because it wasn't their fault. That is, you don't deserve this if you're a normal person who was correctly outraged at your team signing this creep to the most money ever and who has only ever begrudgingly cheered him on because you're stuck. If you're one of those then you didn't deserve Watson foisted upon you in the first place and I truly feel bad for the position the team has put you in. If, however, you're one of these weird Watson Truthers who bought his #4 jersey, who think all the women are gold-diggers and the Browns did nothing wrong, who's said things like "never convicted!" like you're a f***ing Steelers fan - If you're one of those fans you absolutely deserve this. Karma isn't real, but occasionally justice is served accidentally and I do feel bad for the good Browns fans who are collateral damage to that. 

You can't control who your team signs, but you can control how you fan. Don't be weird. Don't wear his jersey. Don't do the mental gymnastics required to reach the take that giving 230 million dollars and a draft haul to a guy credibly accused of predatory sexual behavior to the tune of 40 million dollars in settlements wasn't an unbelievably bad idea. It's the worst trade in NFL history because of football reasons, draft reasons, PR reasons, money reasons, cap reasons, and that's all before he ever took a snap with the team. His injuries, crappy answers to well-earned questions, and his poor play have only made the trade worse. I don't know how you can argue it isn't the worst trade ever. 

Now, as a Bengals fan, after last night I'm gonna spend this weekend drinking and trying to convince myself the season isn't over. What a disaster. 

I would like to see these brands in the hands of a more deft designer or team of designers. I hate to be mean, but these are not good and loaded with fundamental errors, amateurish construction, and lots of decisions made through either poor taste or an untrained eye. This is part of a larger pattern in sports branding that I'm noticing. I'm calling it the Growing Acceptance of Mediocrity - More people than ever have a cursory knowledge of vector software, which can be confused for the ability to craft good work. It's the difference between knowing how to play covers on the guitar and knowing how to write a great song. If you want good sports logos then hire and pay what it costs for the people who are good at sports logos. There's maybe 500 of them in the world and it's extremely unlikely that your in-house social media content employees are one of them, but they are increasingly becoming the people who get tasked with this sort of assignment because they're already on the payroll. Just because Designer is in their title doesn't mean they'll be good at designing sports logos. It's an entirely different skillset.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/nhl-nhlpa-and-alumni-association-release-digital-collectible-nft-platform-nhl-breakaway-to-the-public

The NHL always with their finger on the pulse. Looking forward to their POGS release next year. 

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17 hours ago, Dilbert said:

FC Cincinnati advanced on penalties Saturday night.

 

I was at my in-laws house on Saturday night for a family party and we were all glued to that game. 

Dilbert undersold the crazy game in Harrison, New Jersey on Saturday night. Red Bulls led most of the game, but FC Cincinnati tied it on a pretty Aaron Boupendza goal and then we thought it was over with a buzzer beater corner kick from FCC. It went in and we all went bananas, but they determined it was a foul on the Red Bulls goalie by VAR. Went to PKs and New York needed to make one more to extend the series. Roman Celentano guessed incorrectly, but John Lukin hit the post. Couple rounds later they had another chance to win, but Serge Ngoma aired his shot over the crossbar. After a successful chance by FCC, Celentano made the next save and FC Cincinnati was through to the next round. Second time in two years that FCC has eliminated the Red Bulls in Red Bull arena. 

38 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

The first time I saw Young in mini-camp, he looked so small that I thought NFL Network was doing a story on some kid who won a contest and the Panthers put him in a uniform and let him run a few plays or something. I'm dead serious, I honestly couldn't believe the little guy I saw in that video was the #1 overall pick in the draft. Maybe he'll turn into a good NFL QB, but I'm not betting any of my money on it.

It was jarring the first time I saw him on an NFL field because when he was with Alabama I never noticed his size. I don't like to say size matters as a 5'10" guy myself, but in the NFL it kind of matters.  

44 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

 

I don't know how you could say that. Had the Bills been in position for a FG (which they were), they would have entered the half down 21-10, which is different than 21-7. And if the Bills had still scored out of the half, then they're down 21-13, which is down one score instead of two.

 

Eventually the Bills cut it to 24-18. Had it been 24-21, you have a completely different strategy.

 

Anyway, the Bills lost in large part because 1. Dalton Kincaid fumbled when he shouldn't have and 2. they couldn't get a stop at the end.

 

But playing for FGs is different than playing for TDs, and the refs took three possible points off the board. To say nothing of the missed tripping call that also took time off the clock for Buffalo.

 

(And that's to say nothing of the phantom roughing the passer call that ended up in that third first half TD for the Bengals).

 

Great teams can overcome a calvalcade of bad calls, but good teams at least need the game to be called fairly. Last night the key calls went against Buffalo. And they're not good enough to overcome that, clearly.

Can I offer a Bengals fan's perspective? Trying my best not to sound like a Steelers fan sore winner - I could say that the Bengals left points on the field through their own shooting themselves in the foot. At least ten by my count. I never felt out of control that entire game and I don't get that feeling often as a Bengals fan. The intentional grounding call was goofy, but by the letter of the law according to the NBC ref and I'll defer to his expertise. Bills botched a play and got hurt by it - That's the Bills' fault. 

I wouldn't use the word "cavalcade". There were like two and the refs missed the call when Burrow was facemasked and his head was dribbled off the turf like a basketball so the roughing the passer penalties are a wash. I remember a first down being wiped out by an iffy hold too. That doesn't bother me too much. One of those "you could call holding on every play" holds. The field goal they took off the board with the intentional grounding would've been a midfielder - Not exactly a gimme that you can bank as a "woulda made". We got a lot of ifs and thens here with the Bills. 

The Bills cut it to 24-18 with 3 and a half minutes left because the Bengals were managing the game at that point, letting them have all the underneath stuff to keep the ball in play and the clock rolling. At one point they had 3 backup d-lineman in late in that possession to load manage the starters for a final possession. From my point of view it was less close than the score would indicate and the team who won the turnovers, yardage, first downs (30-17), time of possession, and field position battle won the game. I don't think anyone could sit here and make the case that the wrong team won the game and if the tripping call had been applied I don't think the result is different. 

Oh and McDermott shouldn't have burned a timeout on what was clearly an incomplete pass. 

22 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

The Panthers would’ve ruined Stroud too. They’re just not good enough to develop a QB properly and are entering a nasty development cycle of blowing through QB talent.

And the Texans are a better landing spot for a rookie QB?

I argued that Stroud and Young were neck and neck as draft prospects go and normally I'm not one to focus on size, especially as a guy who was undervalued in my own athletic career because of my size, but if two guys are tied then go with the bigger dude. Young looks tiny and limited.

If we have any Panthers fans here who've watched him more than me they can rightfully tell me to f*** off and eat s*** if I'm wrong, but do you feel like you scored landing Bryce Young right now? 

15 hours ago, infrared41 said:

This just in: C.J. Stroud might be pretty good.

I said the night of the draft that the Panthers are going to regret taking Young at #1. They must have incredible buyer's remorse right now. 

10 hours ago, BBTV said:

I'll hear no more of this "Ohio State NFL Quarterback Curse" nonsense.

 

 

 

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I believe this game is why a young EDP became an Eagles fan. 

The only start Boomer Esiason lost in his second stint and final season with the Bengals.

8 hours ago, Unocal said:

I would rather Dallas win the next 10 SB's then this unlikeable Cincy team ever win one

 

Burrow has reached the level of beyond insufferable. I hope he ends up being Philip Rivers in stripes

You have no idea what an enormous compliment this is coming from you. Thank you. 

19 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

The NBA and this stupid tournament and stupid special courts is dumb as hell.

I gave it a chance and put on Cavs-Pacers. The basketball is about as good as any early November NBA game and the court is physically difficult to watch. :censored:ing stupid. I lasted about 11 minutes. 

1 hour ago, oldschoolvikings said:

 

 

I think the current logo is a better sports logo, specifically (despite the cliched angry bird look) but there was something cool about the old one that's been lost. 

That's perfect because it's for a sports team. I do like the old one, but it's almost too literal a depiction for its purposes. The new version strikes a great balance for me of being a sharp sports logo while still being evident as to where it comes from.

Maybe they could've found a better way to update the old eye ball to keep more of the NA DNA intact? I think that's where most of the issue with the new one comes from - The rest of it is a pretty standard and inoffensive streamlining of elements. 

24 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Centering a logo, even on a modern helmet, shouldn't be difficult

Obviously. I would've just placed the logo on the helmets in the correct spot and then screwed the facemask/chin strap clip on top of it. 

13 hours ago, Cujo said:

If/when the Titans cosplay as the Oilers again, they gotta center that helmet decal better.

 

13 hours ago, BBTV said:

I'm not too familiar with these silly-looking modern helmets, but it looks like there's something that would block the bottom right of the derrick.

 

I'm all for anything that legitimately increases player safety, but any ridges or vents that are cosmetic or just for branding really need to go.  Ridges or other things that are parts of the safety system are fine, but the "just because it's kewl" gimmicks need to go.

Yeah we're gonna have to put the blame on the helmet here and not the person who stuck the sticker. 

The facemask and chin strap clip have moved into the area where logos used to get placed. With all the extra ridges and holes there's basically no smooth surface to put a logo anymore. The Titans logo looks bad especially on these new helmets because its shape has to go in the smallest space on the side of the helmet. Made worse because they chose to give themselves even less real estate to work with because of the goofy tapered stripe down the middle.  One of the reasons this is my least favorite helmet in the league. 

compare that to where the logo sat on the old model helmets. 

I think maybe rotating the logo and placing it above the facemask might work, but could also look dumb in its own way. 

30 minutes ago, _RH_ said:

Interesting.  To me the original is clearly inspired by the local native art, and therefore vastly superior.

That would make sense if they weren't the same logo. The new one nods at Pacific Northwest native totem pole art too while cleaning up the messy bits and making it less static. It gives it less of an abrupt terminus too. 

I'm just gonna have to disagree here.