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Just now, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

A letter logo is almost always better than a graphic logo, and football differs from a dearth of letter logos. So the change to the Renegades' helmet from last season was an upgrade. (And the same goes for the Defenders, who also brought in a letter-based helmet logo for this season.)

 

The Renegades' former helmet logo is better suited to be a sleeve logo.  

You really trying to say the D\R logo is an upgrade?

20 minutes ago, VDizzle12 said:

Still can't get over the Arlington Renegades logo being a D. It drove me insane all season. 

 

An enjoyable season overall though. Hopefully they made enough money to keep it going next year. 

It really bums me out that they scrapped that perfect helmet/primary logo they had in 2020 for this. And it doesn't even look right for a team named Arlington Renegades.  Dallas Renegades, sure....

9 minutes ago, 4_tattoos said:

DC United had a home game that started at 7:30 tonight, that wouldn't have been doable tonight if those were the rules in place.

And there's no way that the XFL was going to reserve dates for all 8 host venues. Plus, there's the problem with weather. Having a dome meant great game conditions no matter what (and I take it SA had bad weather today).  To get it on ABC, meant preplanning the date and time. It would've sucked if DC earned the right to host and Arlington had to host it because the date was unavailable at Audi Field.

2 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

Teams are going with the game logo from the jackets on the jerseys instead of the horizontal logo and it looks better in my opinion. 

 

I'd say this game is 60% Renegades fans, and 80% anti-DC. DC's the home team based on record, but the Arlington, as well as Houston fans, are making more noise. Being up 17 points helps.

I think a lot of Roughnecks fans had bought ahead of time and decided they weren't going to let their tickets go unused.

3 hours ago, the admiral said:

I think the days of searching high and low for a place to move your team are over. The stakes are too high now. Again, I think Sacramento and the Maloofs are a good blueprint for the way things are: when you burn your home market and a market you're trying to move to, the league is going to step in and start guiding things back to the status quo before anyone can do any further damage to prospective markets. The Maloofs actually had three whacks at it -- Anaheim, Virginia Beach, and Seattle -- before the NBA intervened and just made sure the team stayed in place. 

 

I think Warriors ownership's table will be ready before Fisher can start sniffing around Portland or Salt Lake City.

Especially baseball. It's no longer the 'low cost' sporting option. You need people with money to attend 81 games a year. You need to cultivate a fanbase that will make local television and merchandising to be profitable.

MLB doesn't have a lot of markets. if they want more teams they're going to have to cannibalize LA and NYC area. A team in NJ maybe? A team in Ontario/Riverside/San Bernardino? Where else can currently support an MLB team that isn't currently being crowded out by the other four leagues (yes, including MLS).

I just don't see it. Plus, MLB is not aimed at young people. It's not the young person's cheap game.

31 minutes ago, the admiral said:

The culture at Turner and Time Warner had never been "well, let's just churn out some acceptable crap," though with Discovery, that may be changing. I think ESPN has been happy to coast on being ESPN for a very long time. To be honest, I don't think they ever quite got the NBA down.

ESPN pays so much for rights fees for all the properties they air they can't do anything more than the bare minimum. And they rehash the same thing five different ways because they can't risk putting something against their own big name property they're paying for. All 22, in Spanish, Through a Dirty Fish Tank, in Black and White... Just turn to the ESPN the Ocho for that.

1 hour ago, kmccarthy27 said:

DC is not allowed because of the agreement they made with the DC United to use the stadium. 

Not the original Defenders though. 

2 hours ago, Glover said:

I absolutely did not expect we would make it to the ECF after we were limping to the finish line to end the regular season. But I’ll take it! 
 

Still don’t expect to win the Cup this year, but I’m glad I get to watch another series of stressful playoff hockey. Nothing more exciting! 

Honestly, with Florida up 3-1 and Hurricanes winning the likelihood of Carolina-Florida in the ECF feels like a Bettman fever dream.

Just now, GDAWG said:

Anyone think that the new New York City FC Stadium will host high school football?   Is it MetLife Stadium that hosts high school football games in the New York metro area?  

MetLife does, but only NJSIAA championships (they also play at Rutgers).

NYC used to hold their city title at Yankee Stadium but stopped during covid and played their last titles at Abraham Lincoln HS in Coney Island.

3 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

I'm going to be honest, I see more complaints about newer stadiums looking the same outside this forum than in it

It isn't really that 'they're all the same' it's that when one new popular idea comes up everyone wants to mimic it until the next new fad.

MLS 2.0 level stadiums like HDC, DSGP, Toyota Stadium, Rio Tinto, etc were simple bowls with one large concourse at the top of the seating (mostly) that may or may not have some type of roof or awning structure. Mostly for aesthetics than functional.

MLS 3.0 saw the newer SSS that tended to fully enclosed, rounded corners/roof/etc like KC up through Minnesota. Even Orlando was fully surrounding the field, doubledeck, etc.  They looked 'major league' even if they seemed smaller.

This newest level of MLS stadium went block with major roof features that cover the stands and contain the environment. Columbus, Nashville, St. Louis, this new venue.

It's the fad.

2 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

Well, the XFL Championship end zones are generic lifeless trash

 

 

Have you watched any of the games? This is possibly the nicest endzones all season. DC uses a plain blank endzone at Audi Field and Arlington's field is green endzones with the wordmark, nothing more. Same template here and used elsewhere.

1 hour ago, WSU151 said:

Lol 

 

 

I just want to know what type of person assumed a team was named the 69ers....

42 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

Anything “Red-“ would be a back door into formerly-known-as territory.

 

Redhawks

Redhogs

Redyellowgreenlights

 

They’d intentionally be risking a Freudian avalanche of the former name.

 

It’s a “Well, close enough. Might as well just..” situation.

Hate to break it to you, but any name change was going to see the wrong name be used from time to time. We're still hearing "San Diego Chargers" and how many years has it been?

23 minutes ago, SCL said:

Not to mention the Guardians, which has gone incredibly well when compared with the Commander 

As a Cleveland sports fan, I wasn't thrilled by Guardians (especially with an XFL team just using that name), but it fit. It's a little clunky but it's still the same number of syllables and rolls off your tongue fairly well. Image wise, the team still 'looks' similar. Just that baseball G logo is god awful.

if they weren't going with a major change and going with Spiders, Guardians at least feels Clevelandy.

22 minutes ago, ssj_homeslice said:

I think had Snyder been amenable to the change much earlier on this would have been a viable option, but the longer he waited the more clear it was that renaming the team with "-skins" was a half measure and the whole slate had to be wiped clean. At least that is my read of how the situation unfolded. 

Yeah, I agree there that his insistence on not changing the name led to the desire for a fullscale rebrand. But, that would've been like Cleveland losing the red/white/blue colors in a rebrand.

Everything about the Washington name change was done so haphazardly. So many college teams went from (Commanders) to Redhawks, Orangemen to Orange... etc, that it seemed like such an easy thing to change up to that point. But by digging in their heels they couldn't then just go 'oopsy, my bad' and go with a minor tweak.

But with Snyder gone... I think giving the fans the 'Skins' name they still love would go a long way to ingratiating themselves into the fanbase and staying true to the desire to no longer be a native themed team.

I know i'm in the minority but I still wish they'd kept the Skins part of the name and just went Pigskins. Kept the old uniforms and colors, still could be called the skins, goes with the hog motif they love, and just switch out the logo for something different. Pigskins also has a long time football reference that would fit.

Hell, Cleveland basically just swapped "In" for "Guar" and went on with things.  Washington decided that aside from barely keeping their colors they wanted a whole new direction and went along with it with all the furvor of MLS teams naming the last dozen or so teams between FC, City, and United... It's plain. it's boring. And it has nothing to do with anything about Washington except the very tenuous grasp of "Oh, but Commander-in-Chief"... But there's a team named the Chiefs AND you can't call back to another native-themed name even when you try to avoid it.

Browns one was just weird.

Bengals and Jaguars both look..... questionable.

Rams looks like a character from Zootopia

Greatest logo ever. RIP

On 5/2/2023 at 11:31 PM, Cujo said:

More fans attended tonight's Maple Leafs parking lot watch party than an MLB game

 

Pretty soon they're going to be taking attendance by name. 

12 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

I’m glad I didn’t pay much attention to the draft beyond Washington’s 1st round pick because I’m absolutely positive at least 10-15 guys were called “physical specimens” by the commentators.
 

That phrase gives me the biggest sports ick. The are we doing referring to dudes in their early 20s as “specimens”?

 

The funny thing is that ANYTHING can be specimen. Even this:

9 hours ago, Silent Wind of Doom said:

Well...  That trophy...  They really didn't know if they'd make it this far, huh?

 

Any difference between the North and South trophies?  I haven't seen the North yet.

Looks like the South has a black base and the North has a white base.

1 hour ago, ManillaToad said:

Every big four team that holds the record for most regular season wins failed to win the championship that year

 

1906 Cubs (116-36) lost the WS to the White Sox who had the worst BA in the league

2001 Mariners (116-46) lost ALCS

2007 Patriots (16-0) lol

2015-16 Warriors (73-9) blew 3-1 lead in the finals

2022-23 Bruins (65-12-5) blew a 3-1 lead in the first round

Their laurels were well rested on.

Houston was definitely a sheep in wolf's clothing. SA might have been better but that come-from-behind win by STL to open the season snakebit them.  Not championship level, but that was a gut punch.

Seattle was good from day one, offensively... but their defense was usually pretty suspect. LV was terrible and Orlando was terrible for the first half the year until their miracle win over DC which was more DC being relaxed and assuming a win before they stepped on the field. Arlington obviously improved at the end, but survived the rest of the year on their defense.

1 minute ago, Cujo said:

 

To be fair neither team was trying last week because they both knew they were in

 

Also, damn shame Houston flamed out this season. They were the best team in the league over the first half of the season. #FIREWADE

They rested on their laurels. After the good start, once they started losing, they just never regrouped but were far enough ahead to just coast into hosting their division playoff.

As troublesome as the XFL 1.0 crossover playoffs were (letting SF and LA playing in the first title by upset of the far better team Orlando), the division playoffs just feel hollow. It's four teams. Would the NFL like to let the top two in from each division and immediately play each other in the first round?

In a crossover this year, it would've been Arlington at DC and Seattle at Houston.  In a top 4 league-wide, it would've been DC v. St. Louis and Houston v. Seattle.

Either way, I figured at least one Houston spring football teams were going to win today.

33 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said:

 

Might not be a bad idea if whatever summer programming they have doesn't work out.

2023 is a lot different than years past. Right now the networks absolutely crave anything that draws live viewers as opposed to most stuff being streamed at the viewers' leisure. A July Friday night game might actually draw better on the worst TV night than any other programming they can throw on there.