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22 hours ago, Haz_Matt said:

I don't know a single Jazz fan that misses or likes the Boozer/Williams set

Oh, no I hate those jerseys, I'm just saying the demand for this or that throwback follows a trend of nostalgia. But, I'll always be a fan of the Jazz note logo, never a big fan of the 90s or 00s look.

19 hours ago, The_Admiral said:

It's a small market that already has one very well-entrenched team playing a sport that's well-entrenched in the church. Resources are finite and I just don't know how you make Salt Lake City a two-sport town with the two sports running concurrently, especially when one is basketball.

14 hours ago, VampyrRabbit said:

So which would be better for SLC? Getting a relocated Coyotes or an expansion franchise?

Yeah, my worry would be the profitability of two professional teams playing concurrently and in the same arena. If they build the new area near the point of the mountain at the prison site it could draw fans from both Utah and SL Counties? Do I think it's doable? Sure. But, I do feel like a relocated team over expansion would be the route, especially if it's Arizona.

5 hours ago, tBBP said:

 

 

 

Still the best Jazz uniform set in their history. This ain't up for debate.

 

Even that black alternate...perfect change of pace for the primary home and aways at the time.

 

Just bite the bullet and bring 'em back permanently, Utah. Just gon' and do it already...

Nope. Too dated. It's 100% 90s nostalgia just like the green jerseys were 10 years ago. In about 5-10 years us Jazz fans will be clamoring for these ...

21 hours ago, VikWings said:

Was the Jazz the biggest flop/most tone deaf rebrand of all time?

Eh. I wouldn't call it a flop. It definitely wasn't thought all the way through. I don't mind the colors that much, the design is just bad. Too plain. Sure there's the note jersey, but it just doesn't feel like the Jazz. I think if you add purple as a main color that'd work really well. 

On 1/20/2024 at 7:05 PM, DustDevil61 said:

It was the big story around town yesterday. Currently, the AAA Bees plan to leave Smith’s Ballpark after the 2024 PCL season for the new stadium in Daybreak (on the southwest corner of the Salt Lake Valley) in 2025, but that still-under-construction ballpark is what the A’s are eyeing. Aside from a smaller capacity, the new ballpark as planned will have the facilities a Major League team needs, with separated bullpens and batting cages for both home and visiting teams. There’s not much of a geographic footprint to expand on at Smith’s Ballpark without tearing down nearby homes, either.
 

The seating capacity at the new park would be temporarily expanded from its planned 7,500 to about 11,000 for the A’s while the Bees remain at Smith’s Ballpark for the duration of their layover in Salt Lake.

 

https://kslsports.com/510099/does-having-two-stadiums-give-salt-lake-city-edge-to-temporarily-land-as/

 

Of course, I can see a (not very likely) situation where funding for the Vegas stadium is delayed or falls through and Fisher is forced to sell the A’s to the Big League Utah group (while being granted a Las Vegas franchise), who in turn would build their planned Power District stadium west of downtown Salt Lake.

Living close to Daybreak I'd LOVE for the stadium to house the A's to temporarily call the new stadium home. But, I think the most logical place will be the Las Vegas Ballpark IF the move is finalized. I have a hard time seeing anything else, especially because the A's will need to win fans over. This is definitely the LHM Group playing their cards, showing interest in hosting, etc. to be next in line for an expansion team.

HOWEVER.

I think there's more to this than just being next in line. I think the LHM Group is also putting themselves in position to either buy (buy into the A's) to have them relocate to SLC. They can easily play in Daybreak until the new stadium is built, while the Bees either share Daybreak with the A's or, more likely, extend their contract for a couple more years at Smith's Ballpark.  I'd much rather the A's (or established team) then an expansion team and with each passing day the A's to Vegas does seem a little bit less likely.

6 hours ago, Digby said:

I think marquee dates are the time to keep it traditional and showcase your best and most solid look, which I was pleasantly surprised they went back to this year (except for Miami and Philly being backwards). The Celtics wearing all the red accessories with a green jersey was a clever nod to the holiday while still looking like their normal selves, and not like the Seattle Sonics or the silly Christmas card script or whatever. It's not the time to see the Miami Viceheat or whatever mystery color Golden State's doing this year and so on. Much like how the NFL doesn't throw out Thanksgiving-theme alternates; it's just the usual look or, maybe, an appropriate throwback. The whole spectacle of the NHL Winter Classic makes that one a little different, but the core idea is the same and the way the early Stadium Series cookie-cutter uniforms fell flat kinda proves the rule.

I don't mind a one-off jersey, save that it's not ridiculous (or sleeved). But, with that said, I did like the Green/Red matchups teams have done in the past ...

1 hour ago, Digby said:

 

I'm expecting just another white vs. yellow game given the precedent, no? Just not sure which team will wear which color.

Hopefully it's the Lakers in yellow and Pacers in white. Not that it's my favorite matchup, but keeping the Lakers in yellow is optimal.

58 minutes ago, Digby said:

 

 

Sorry for the double post here but all of this is getting more confounding the more I think about it. Why is the court blue and red -- and candidly, hideous shades of both of those colors -- when the entire tournament branding has been hitting us over the head with black and metallic gold? And if you're going to push the City uniforms as effective primary uniforms for this tournament, why would you not ensure that that initiative works in harmony with your court initiative for same?

 

Everything about this In-Season Tournament feels undercooked by half.

I kind of give them a pass with the undercooked imagery based off the short turnaround. But, I agree with you on the court. It's red and blue I feel because of the NBA logo. It should be black and gold based off the promotions and tie into Vegas as well as the VGK. 

I also don't understand why black would clash with the R,W&B court?

2 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

 

 

Also from that story: 

I came to share that same quote! lol

4 hours ago, BShaw20 said:

So it will be Lakers vs. Pelicans in the in season tournament semifinal, and both of their city/in season tournament uniforms are black. Does that mean one team won’t be wearing their in season tournament uniform in the semi? lol lol 

Most of the matchups have been City (Home) vs. Association (White). I'll give them a pass this year just because of the late approval of the tournament. But, they should have clash set next year for the cup games.

3 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

They should play one outside and call it the Winter Classic. 

I'm slightly surprised that the NBA hasn't done at least a "Stadium Series" with a number of domed stadiums in NBA markets (ie-Superdome, AT&T Stadium, SoFi Stadium, etc.). You'd think if the NHL can fill a stadium the NBA should be able to in the right market. 

Going into the knockout stage of the tourney I have a few thoughts ...

1) I am a fan of the tournament. It really gives a purpose to games that even as a fan of the game I don't bother to track during this part of the season. I do feel like they should shift the games closer to Christmas and maybe do the Final on Christmas Day? Just a thought. 

2) As panned as some of the courts have been, I understand the reasoning, especially marketing behind it. These games are different and to the most casual of fans you understand that even when you see highlights or a flash of a game while flipping channels. I think they should keep loud or unusual courts a tradition for the tourney games ... just please take more time on the concept stage.

3) It sounds like next year we're going to get tourney-specific jerseys. Here are some thoughts of those ...

• As much as we don't need ANOTHER jersey in some team's rotations, I support it ... as long as the jerseys are ONLY worn during tourney games. I think they could have some fun with it too.
• Tourney games, especially Group games should be "Color vs. Color." I've hated that most Tourney games have been the home team in the City Jersey and the opponent in their Association white jerseys. You should be able to have at least five clashing jerseys per group. Then in the knockout round you could go color vs. color with maybe a clash set (just not the regular white jersey) IF needed? 
• You could base the tourney jerseys on a template like Christmas games were the last few years with Adidas? Perhaps a throwback or fauxback style like the NBA Remix/NHL Reverse Retro? It should be special, fun and loud IMO, especially if that's the route the league goes with the tourney. Maybe even take the concept of the City Jerseys and use them for just the tourney games? 

It will also be interesting to see if they move the Final Four games to other locations, especially if Vegas gets a NBA team? Madison Square Garden? New Orleans? Miami? Phoenix? Could also be attraction locations?

Just a few thoughts.

The Mavs won't use their Tourney Court tonight. Apparently the three-point line was too short?

1 hour ago, GhostOfNormMacdonald said:

                    8 hours ago, throwuascenario said:  I prefer state over city every time if the city is named for the state                          Slightly (okay, super) pedantic, but it allows me to rant about MN history. TheMinnea- in Minneapolis actually comes from the Dakota word for waterfall Mnihaha instead of the Dakota word for water mni (where the Minne- in Minnesota comes from) . The original  spelling of Minneapolis was Minnehapolis, meaning waterfall city. Named after the only waterfall on the Mississippi, which allowed the city to become the milling capital of the US.                 Also, someone please fix typing on mobile    

On 11/4/2023 at 9:35 PM, YELDARBfield said:

This isn't a tournament game. Groups are still within the conferences, and the next tourney games are next Friday 11/10.

I'm not against the In-Season Tournament, it's the in the face stuff like these courts that too much.

Here is Indiana's court with a game in progress. Ummm ... it's definitely different. Kinda seems feels like a FIBA tourney game or something? 

2 minutes ago, tscuzzy said:

 

Absolutely disgusting. 

It's just ... soooo ... cluttered. 

1 hour ago, andregunts said:

Guys please please please, tell me you guys love this 

 

It's actually one of my favorite City designs. I'm not that crazy about the Indy wordmark, but they remind me of the '90s prototypes with the teal/light blue.

10 minutes ago, FinsUp1214 said:

Cracker jacks certainly weren’t $0.50 either. 

Well, and in 2000 I'm pretty sure they didn't even sell Cracker Jacks at the arena.

Per UniWatch today, it seems like (almost) everyone has a new court. Here are a few favorites ...

And, these ones can go straight to h*** ...

The Jazz's City Court. 

6 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

The Suns have three new courts: statement, city and tournament.  Wood is definitely not an issue.  Do they recycle courts somehow?

From the ESPN article it seems most of the courts were bought or repurposed from the WNBA, so it seems so? 

10 hours ago, spartacat_12 said:

 

Between this comment, and the Oceans Eleven inspired 'Heist' ad that the league has been running, they really seem to be leaning on the finals in Vegas as a selling feature for this gimmicky tournament. What are they going to do once Nevada inevitably gets their own team and the novelty of the league being there isn't around?

Clearly their logo, jerseys, court  and identity will revolve around the runway. 

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The stripe running down the center of the court is supposed to represent the airport runway in Las Vegas, which will host the semifinals and finals at T-Mobile Arena on Dec. 7 and 9.

This is the DUMBEST reason for a design element I've heard in quite a while.

1 hour ago, MauriceMorris13 said:

always wonder why do you care so much about home white and away color. it's not an american thing, considering that in american footbal the home team wear their color jersey. By the way, i know in the Nba has always been like that, but even if they go for achange, why would it be a problem? i mean for me it's even more righteous.

For the same reason why we like home teams playing in color jerseys in football -- tradition.

And, probably OCD.