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3 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

Get fitted for clown shoes, Bozo.

When your only response is name-calling, you have no response. I'll take that as you implying you agree.

3 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

While doctors have told Rodgers that he has a torn Achilles, he is determined to do his own research. 

Well this time he actually has a medical issue

39 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

What rulebook are you looking at?

 

I’ll take your position seriously when you know how to spell the word. Yeah, I know you’re trolling, but it’s still weak beyond getting people to respond. 

Holding is a rule and they didn't call it on the punt return or the last offensive play.

If you're calling it loose because it's a playoff game, fine, but then you can't turn around and call a late hit penalty that was about 1 millisecond after he's out of bounds and consistently is never called for any other player at any other position.

9 hours ago, infrared41 said:

 

The only definition of win in the NFL is scoring more points than your opponent. If the Chiefs didn't win the AFC Championship Game last year "by any definition", how did they still end up in the Super Bowl?

 

Last year's Chiefs weren't the same team that won Super Bowl IV either, (although it would be hilarious if they were) but it still counts.

 

I can't decide if you're just trolling or if you really are this silly. Either way, it's kind of amusing.

Well by the definition of the rulebook, they didn't score more points.

2 hours ago, Red Comet said:

It takes a lot more than candidates for Canton to make up a great NFL team. IMO, it’s more important to have a lot of really good players to complement the stars than it is to have the stars themselves. 
 

Beyond Mahomes and Kelce? There’s only Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith, Joe Thuney, Isaiah Pacheco, Chris Jones, Nick Bolton, Trent McDuffie, Harrison Butker, Tommy Townsend and L’Jarius Sneed (and Feed) . 
 

Yeah, a bunch of practice squad guys for sure. 

Other than Chris Jones and Butker, all of those guys are bottom 5 for starters at their poisition. 

9 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

How many teams would sign up for "He'll get you at least 8 wins for the next dozen years but will never take you to a Super Bowl." -- Probably the Cowboys and nobody else.

Lions fans? Browns fans?

You're also way overestimating how often the better or higher seeded team wins in the playoffs. Both teams always have a chance in a playoff game. And if you have enough shots at it, you never know.

All that being said, the Bills window is this year and that's it. The Chiefs window is already closed. The Bengals have maybe 2 more years. The way these QB deals are going, every team that gets a "franchise QB" will have nothing but bodies around him by their second deal. Tua and Herbert have next and then someone who's probably in college now.

4 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

You're trying to argue a team who has not and will not make a Super Bowl is better than a defending champion with 3 AFC titles, 2 Super Bowl wins.

 

Please. Stop.

They have 1 Super Bowl win. You have to win the AFC Championship game to win the Super Bowl and they did not do that last year by any definition of the word "win".

And this Chiefs team is not the same team as the won that won their first Super Bowl. That team was loaded and this one is not.

1 minute ago, Cujo said:

 

Gostkowski will never sniff Canton.

 

Revis' career was wrapping up by the time he joined the Pats. Might as well add Reggie Wayne and John Lynch to your list.

 

And Julian Edelman?? That's comical.

And who are the Chiefs 2023 equivalents to Revis or Edelman?

Trent McDuffie and K'darius Toney? You seriously think those are comparable?

Just now, infrared41 said:

 

Randy Moss didn't win a Super Bowl with the Pats, but he'll go too. After that, I'm having a hard time coming up with the next 1-3 guys from the entire Brady era in New England that he says are HOFers.

Counting Moss, there are 3 in the HOF at this moment.

5 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Ok. Who else besides Brady and Gronk are going to Canton from last three SB wins in New England? 

 

The Kansas City Chiefs Mahomes-to-Kelse is still miles better than the present-day Buffalo Bills.

Nah, you're not changing it now. You said 6 Super Bowls. Here ya go:

- Gronkowski

- Ty Law

- Richard Seymour

- Vinatieri

- Gostkowski

- Revis

- Wilfork

I'm sure I'm forgetting someone too. I'm also not even counting the not quite HOF players but good players that the Chiefs have nowhere near like Edelman, Gilmore, McCourty, etc. The Chiefs don't have a WR who breathes the same air as Edelman. They don't have any impact players on their defensive back 7. They're just a bad team with 3 very good players on it. The Patriots were a good team with 3 great players on it. That's a world of difference.

2 minutes ago, Germanshepherd said:

Think of all the draft picks you could get for trading for Josh Allen! And how good they could be! They might even be as good as Josh Allen!

You know how much we've always wanted one of those!

Just now, monkeypower said:

 

What do you think they are doing when they go to replay? They use the dozens of camera angles to make a decision.

 

"not enough evidence to overturn it" means there isn't enough evidence on the film to make a decision on the replay. That's a result from looking at the replay.

Sorry, I didn't word it well.

What I mean is, lower the threshold for overturning the call. Like, if it looks more likely than not (like 51%), than change the call. It shouldn't have to be 100% irrefutable just because the call on the field was different.

I'm saying you'll always see the play better on the replay and you're already taking time to look at it so there's no reason to even consider the call on the field.

9 minutes ago, Cujo said:

I literally just agreed with you.

 

29 minutes ago, Cujo said:

Nah, the Bills will never trade him. He'll have a few runs to the divisional round, Buffalo will try a couple rebuilds around him. Philip Rivers 2.0

I thought you were saying that they won't trade him, but should trade him. They obviously won't. I just also think they shouldn't. If I misinterpreted that, my bad!

5 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Same method that won six Super Bowls in New England.

 

 

Also

 

Dude there's literally like at least 5-7 other guys from those Patriots teams that will be in the Hall of Fame. It wasn't even close to just Brady. Kelce will be the absolute only other player on the Chiefs right now that has a chance.

4 minutes ago, monkeypower said:

26 minutes ago, Needschat said:

With the billions that are bet legally, and the more billions illegally, the NFL Monopoly would have a mechanism where they could correct a "Clear and Obvious" missed called! 

 

What are you talking about?

I don't know what he's talking about either but one thing that would go a long way to helping NFL officiating is to make them acutally use replay when they go to replay. Throw out the call on the field and have the sack to actually make a decision based on the replay. If I ever have to hear the phrase "not enough evidence to overturn it" one more time... This is not a he said, she said law case. You have literally dozens of camera angles to make a decision. Who cares what the guy standing 10 yards away who saw it in real time said?

Just now, Cujo said:

 

The Chiefs are literally 3 players and then a 50 man practice squad.

4 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Hmu when Josh Allen overtakes Patrick Mahomes in the AFC. Or Joe Burrow for that matter.

 

Never happening.

The Bills are a much better team than the Chiefs all around. Is Allen as good as Mahomes? No, but there are 21 other players playing. And 19 of the Chiefs' other 21 players are practice squad caliber players.

Who are you suggesting they replace Josh Allen with? Because the Panthers tried the "tear it down, anything is better" strategy and haven't even come close to getting back to where they were, let alone improving.

Do you remember when it took Buffalo literally 20 years to find a QB after Kelly? There are teams that have literally never had one in the Super Bowl era. You think you'll just throw a dart and find a better QB than Josh Allen?

8 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Nah, the Bills will never trade him. He'll have a few runs to the divisional round, Buffalo will try a couple rebuilds around him. Philip Rivers 2.0

There are worse things than getting to the divisional round every year. Crazy things happen in the playoffs, especially in the NFL's one-game elimination.

I can say from experience, the grass is NOT always greener. The Panthers have changed QB's every year since 2018 and haven't upgraded a single time. Honestly, this year included.

12 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

That sucks. Nobody should want to see that happen. Any Packer fans  celebrating this are nozzles.

 

And yes, I've seen some on my timeliness.

Didn't the Packers lose a 1st round pick on that too?

With all the names I've seen thrown around, I can't believe I haven't seen Cam as part of the discussion if they go the route of signing someone.

On 9/2/2023 at 3:07 AM, the admiral said:

"Why would the Hurricanes ever do anything wrong?" is a weird tack to take. This has never been the model of organizational excellence.

Dundon does not like spending money off the ice. That's why he canned two legendary announcers that he thought were getting paid too much.

I always had the notion that they got a better offer from Chicago, so they took it. And it blew up in their faces. Apart from spitting in the face of any fans they have in the largest city in the state. They should just set up a new AHL team in Chapel Hill or something at this point.

4 hours ago, FSUViking said:

 

Unless you're 20 years old, you've SEEN those Seahawks uniforms in your lifetime. Like, WTF....

First of all, a lot of people that watch football are in their 20's. Second of all, I've seen the uniforms. That doesn't mean it fits their current brand. They currently wear navy and neon green. When I turn on a Seahawks game, I'm expecting to see navy and neon green. Them not wearing that makes them not look like the Seahawks.

If they ever change back to blue/silver full-time, that would change.

BTW, whoever called my last post a troll-post, I don't feel like digging back through to quote you but THANK YOU for your valuable input. Seriously, you exploded my mind. What would I have ever done without that? What a valuable contribution. I had never thought of it that way before. What a new way of thinking. Such an original thought. Your existence now has meaning.

16 hours ago, FSUViking said:

 

Oh, Christ. Which of these teams will you not know who's playing if you tune in? Will you not recognize Seattle? Or the Jets? The Vikings?

 

Stop. It's nowhere near as bad as the NBA or college.

The Seahawks, absolutely. It's a completely different brand and color scheme. It's completely off-brand and looks like a different team. The only reason the Jets and Vikings aren't quite as bad is because their current uniforms really aren't all that different from the throwbacks. But in that case, why even bother? It's like an uncanny valley situation.

For the record, I like all three teams' throwbacks better than their currents. If they chose them to use full-time, I'd be happy about it. I just don't like off-brand alternates. Pick a brand and stick to it.

1 hour ago, bowld said:

Amazed by how many throwbacks we're getting this season. Well done Nike/NFL! 

The NFL is now the NBA. It will be impossible to tell who is playing immediately in any game. Every team should have at MOST 3 uniforms, all of which being recolors of each other. Anything else is just brand dilution.

1 hour ago, monkeypower said:

 

The Coyotes colours are black, green, red (brick?) and sand. The purple, there's no blue, is limited to the logos which is typically excused away as not being part of a colour scheme when it's not used anywhere else, see Mighty Ducks, Anaheim and Blackhawks, Chicago.

 

I really don't think the kachina is a downgrade from that boring old set. My issue with the kachina set is that it is way too dark. They should have taken the time to lighten at least one of the red or green but teams seem to be hesitant to change any flaws when bringing back retros full time.

I still count purple, it's on the jerseys. 5 (or even 4) non-white colors on a jersey is way, way too many. Especially when they're all so dark.

I agree that the old ones were boring, but I'll take boring over cluttered any day. Fix the colors and the kachinas are much better. But the colors ruin it.

6 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

 

If anything, it proved that those uniforms were over-appreciated. They're good, but they're not "OMG so amazing!" - the Kachina is an B+ outfit.

Unpopular opinion: the kachinas were a downgrade from what they had. The color scheme is the most important part of the brand for a team IMO, and they simply don't have one anymore. Red and sand is much stronger than black, green, red, blue, and purple. Also, the logo is too detailed for a jersey.

I like the overall concept of the kachinas better, but those two flaws are too much to look past.

1 hour ago, tBBP said:

 

Naturally it'd be in freaking Fishers... 

The fairgrounds area is horrible, Fishers is a clear upgrade. Putting it in the development with the new soccer stadium would've been better though.

Related: I don't get why they need a separate brand new arena for the G League team one town over in Noblesville. They could've easily shared one building.

On 6/15/2023 at 10:44 AM, JerseyJimmy said:

I think the Eagles' kelly greens are the most overrated uniforms in football history. this isn't to say they're bad, but they really aren't anything special, and I don't understand this obsession with them. I think the midnight green look is a far more unique one. leave brighter greens to the Jets.

The most tired take on here is that every single team in each league has to have an absolutely unique color scheme at all costs. There is literally no reason the Jets couldn't wear the same color as the Eagles - and they don't even wear kelly anyways.

That being said, the Eagles have worn midnight my entire life so that's just how they look to me. The kellies are fine but they don't seem like the Eagles to me. I'd assume someone older would feel the opposite.

On a separate note, they should pick one or the other. Throwbacks only serve to dilute the brand.

On 6/16/2023 at 10:29 PM, the admiral said:

The Ice and Moose are both two teams too many for the market. Boot the farm team to Indianapolis or something.

An Indy suburb is building a 7,000 seat arena for the ECHL Fuel. Could definitely work for an AHL team.