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Depends on where Phoenix ends up. all things constant. They stay in the west. As God is my witness, I thought Honolulu would work. /Bettman Well hell, if we're gonna go that far, why not Guam? Or Fiji? Or Sydney, Australia? Cripes...they could even shoot for Bangkok.

Vancouver.

This showed up on ESPN this morning: Worst attempt I've seen them do yet. (And they've had some bad ones.)

Oh dear Lord...I completely forgot about the Bengals' jersey numbers. I believe DIN was the "hot" font at the time of the Bengals' makeover (sorta like Agency has become lately). Din + dropshadow = teh suck. Then, to make it so bad, this past year, the Detroit Lions also went the Din route and crafted some tear-drop numbers out of that. Like the Chargers, Falcons, and Cardinals...entirely too forced. I think most of us uni nuts can tell the diffrerence between carefully crafted uniqueness and hackneyed or forced uniqueness. Former Jags, current Eagles, Ravens (shoot, I'll even throw a bone towards the Texans)...examples of the former. Cardinals, Falcons, Chargers, Lions...examples of the latter. *of course, this is all just my opinion...my two rusted Lincolns.

Well, technically, some teams had the Champion block, and some the Wilson (or whatever the Rams and Seahawks had (though the Seahawks had a really fat version of it.)). I like the custom numbers - when they make sense. The Vikings, Cardinals, and Bengals (among others) just don't seem to make sense other than the fact that they wanted something custom. +1. For some teams, the custom numbers fit in with their identity, namely the former Jaguars #s (may they rest in peace), the Philly Eagles, the Ravens, and--though not exactly custom--the Buccaneers' blocks. I've never been able to stand either the Falcons', Cardinals', or especially the Chargers' "custom" numbers, namely because they look entirely too forced, in my opinion (particilarly the Chargers). With the Buccaneers, it's that extra-thick black outline--and the specific type of block that they use--that makes theirs stand out (I have no clue what it's called though).

I miss that Chargers uniform .... The thing is it still seems weird to see him in a Saints uni to me. Be that as it may (to some), he led his team to a Super Bowl championship in a Saints uniform. Drew Bress is a Saint. We are all Saints (or...at least we all were once the confetti fell Super Bowl night). For better or worse, the annals of sports history will document Brees as (primarily) a Saint. Not that any of that changes your viewpoint though... ...and I loved that Chargers uniform. Worn by Brees, briefly by his successor Philip Rivers--who some people might forget was traded for Eli Manning, who wanted nothing to do with that uniform. (One other note: I remember watching the Draft that year hoping Phillip Rivers would get drafted by the Steelers...if only to have a QB surnamed "Rivers" playing in the city of the three rivers. But alas, it was not meant to be...)

I had the same question...that right there, corny as it may sound at first, seems like a decent answer. That works, at least in my mind, as a natural progression...from "Big" 10, to "Great" 12...especially since the Big XII already exists. It'll take time for people to make the adjustment--at one point the Big XII was the Big 8, but people have adjusted, so I think it might work. As for who joins...I really have no rooting interest in the Big Ten, so I really don't care. Having said that, I think it'll eventually be Pitt...I just can't see ND leaving that NBC $$$ alone.

That dude ain't been in the right uniform since the Sixers' last rebranded.

Wow. I'm suprised anyone remembered that.

You do realize that Michael Vick in any uniform that isn't prison-issued orange is going to be considered a "wrong" uniform in the eyes of many, right?

Whoa...I'd COMPLETELY forgotten about that one there. (On another note: am I alone in really having LOVED that particular uniform for the Jazz???)

Can we please just go ahead and change the name of this thread already? (Or, at the very least, split it into "legends" and "favoritest players from favoritest teams" or something like that...)

I just now realized how retarded that looks. I mean...it might look better if there weren't so many layers involved...even WITH the crazy spurs and serifs...but two outlines AND a dropshadow?? Can you say visual overload??

Bugs Bunny on steroids???

Is that the original logo? If not, post the original version. If it is, about the only thing you gon' be able to do with that is actually redraw the letters, if you don't have whatever font that is. And even if you do, you'll have to convert the text to outliines in order to achieve the pointed edges going on with the letters there.

There's several ways you can do it. I can't remember how to do this (I got a tutorial somewhere on one of my computers, but I'm sure you can find one online), but I actually created a brush composed of a bunch of oval shapes. I then drew a brush pattern large enough to fill , say, a box or so, and saved it. I then took the shape of the mesh (take, for example, the front panel of a football jersey), put it over the brush pattern I created and made a clip mask out of it, and then moved that mask back over the part of the jersey I wanted to make look like mesh. Hope that helps a little bit. The other way, I suppose, would be to, like you said, do a step-and-repeat process. (There's actually a shortcut way to do that in Illy, but I haven't done it in so long I can't even remember where to tell you to start looking.)

No it isn't. A pencil and some paper is. No--seriously, it depends on what you can do with it. Some posters in this community can achieve high-quality work using the free vector program Inkscape. Others have even done so with basic Microsoft Paint. There are other programs out there, though, such as CorelDraw (I think that's Corel's vector program), and if Macromedia Freehand is still floating around out there, it's another vector program (though personally, I'd stay away from that one). No matter what it is you're using, though, attention to detail is probably the single biggest selling point. Ultimately, the thing to remember is that all these different software programs are but tools used to help "refine" logos or whatever other designs you may come up with and bring them to "digital" life. Now granted, some people have the advanced skill to create sketches on these software programs and go from there to the finished product (how I don't know, but some do). But, the best place to start is right there on your drawing pad.

For anyone wondering, the jersey lettering says Isotopes. It's Albuquerque's minor league team. I'm pretty sure anyone who was watching the College World Series yesterday knew that...with as much as they was talking about him and his every move, breath, hop, skip, and jump yesterday prior to, during, and after the game... (Seriously...ESPN really needs to cut that mess out.)

Don't forget his other green-and-white stop... You know, pretty much an entire thread can be devoted to "legends who done somehow ended up in a New York Jets uniform". See: John Riggins, Ronnie Lott, Brat Farve...

Now THAT...really came out of the blue. (pun totally indended.)

Not exactly. But unless you got a magnifying glass and a protractor, you probably couldn't really spot the "custom" differences with the Avalanche's numbers. About those numbers in the picture (which I see entirely too much in the HBCU world, BTW), Bodega Sans is what you're looking for. (And I don't doubt there's a freeware version out there somewhere, though I have no clue if it is.)

I don't see why you couldn't use a brush to replicate that.

that looks like Times New Roman to me. Look like Trajan. If it ain't Trajan, then it's mighty close.

Look like some jacked-up inkblot version of Aachen. I betcha dafont.com probably has something similar to this somewhere.

Appears to be Compacta to me. "MLB 08" looks like Compacta to me as well, but I think "The Show" looks more like Eurostile Bold Condensed. Upon closer inspection...you may be right. Aiight JP22...where you at mayn???