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  1. I'm periodically adding a few teams. The goal is 1 per week but I'm leaving open if I'm not able. Here's the first two: The Region SC and Oak Park SC. https://pcgd.co/the-region https://pcgd.co/oak-park
  2. The sleeves were originally raglan but it always was more or less what you see now.
  3. Its been 4 long years since my last post here. My departure wasn't about anything other than just a slow decrease of posting until I stopped. I lurked for a bit after that without really posting. I've now moved to Portland, OR and had a kid, so my time really is even more limited. However, with the pandemic happening, I got a chance to update my website (www.pcgd.co) and with that, I decided to make a home for The America League project I did back in 2013. I've updated the stories and mockups, created a full history of the league with yearly results, added a map, listed champions, and have mapped out the next two levels on the America League Pyramid. I thought anyone that was around back then, would appreciate seeing the updates! https://pcgd.co/america-league-all
  4. Rayo OKC had zero players from Rayo Spain. It's basically a naming rights deal where the the namesakes have total control but pay zero attention. So dumb.
  5. Funny thing is, a few NFL teams used to make you have their left chest logo face away from the armpit in all cases. If I remember right it was the Vikings and Cardinals but looks like the Cardinals are the only ones who still do that:
  6. Holy hell! It's May and I forgot about IndyCar! It's the only place in the world that gives a :censored: about non Indy 500 races. Put it tied with Butler Basketball.
  7. US Open Cup 3rd Round Draw: OKC Derby could happen! Winner of Detroit/Louisville heads to Indy Minnesota may seek revenge against Saint Louis. That's about it for real intrigue outside of some upsets moving on. 2nd Round almost looks better than the 3rd. Locally of course your opinion could differ.
  8. US Open Cup started last night you guys!! Here's all the scores: http://thecup.us/2016/04/07/2016-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-schedule-results/ Next week has some really intriguing matches: San Antonio Derby (SAFC vs. Corinthians FC) Charlotte Derby (Eagles vs. Independence) City Derby (Louisville vs. Detroit) Plus there are some fun underdog games with amateur teams playing USL teams! Personally looking forward to Indy Eleven NPSL heading to FC Cincinnati although I won't be able to attend. We'll find out about the 3rd round matches today which will be very cool for me. Will Indy play Louisville/Detroit or Cincinnati? Will we get the OKC Derby we all want to see?
  9. Outside of Happy Valley however, his reputation is forever tarnished. As it should be.
  10. If that name sounds familiar... http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Why-did-Penn-State-hire-the-president-of-Football-Rape-Coverup-U.html
  11. Yup, Puerto Rico makes 12 which completes the 2016 NASL threeway of ill-advised locations.
  12. Indianapolis: 1) Colts 2) Pacers 3) IU basketball 4)High School Basketball 5) Butler Basketball 5) Notre Dame Football 6) Reds Baseball 7) Indy Indians baseball 8) Cubs Baseball 9) High School Football 10) Indy Eleven 11) Purdue Basketball/Football Honestly after the top 4 the rest are interchangable except Purdue seems like an after thought here despite the huge alumni base.
  13. Pennsylvania is an at will state so they can fire him whenever for whatever they want as long as it doesn't break federal employment laws. If Sandusky wants to claim protection as a pedofile I guess he could have tried that... And by not firing him when he heard about more than 1 allegation, it created an environment where Penn State was ok with child rape as long as they won football games. Later, it allowed the admin to eventually give Sandusky access to his torture chamber (I mean Paterno's football locker room) for years after he retired. I guess my question is, if you personally hear about an employee abusing kids on 2 separate occasions, do you keep him around? Promote him?? Stand by as he starts a charity focused on kids??? Of course you don't. Nobody does. Except JoPa.
  14. I can't believe Paterno allegedly didn't go to authorities or higher ups of course or pursue this further. But even if you say he did what he should have, do you keep someone on you're staff that's been allegedly abiding kids on MULTIPLE occasions? He alone has the power to make sure Sandusky wasn't around the school without evidence. He could and should have fired him the second there was a second allegation. im not giving him a pass on one, just I can reasonably see a situation where there is an allegation and no evidence so one could think that it could be made up. But 2, 3? Come on its simple, get rid of the guy. That's on Paterno. He had the power to hire and fire staff. And it sounds like there could have been multiple allegations long before Sandusky had any kind of tenure. Disgusting.
  15. I just discovered that there are Jerry Sandusky truthers. Not JoePa truthers... People who believe Sandusky is innocent. And it's not just one crazy. I read this article: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/us/jerry-sandusky-victims-paterno-penn-state/ Which is horrible and I decided to see what Twitter thought. (I know....). That lead me me to this guy on Twitter who is a nationally syndicated radio host and was bashing that article: https://mobile.twitter.com/Zigmanfreud Which he tweeted this website over and over: http://framingpaterno.com That says Jerry. Sandusky. Is. Innocent. What. The. :censored:.
  16. I think San Antonio still needs a good amount of money. The county and city owns the stadium so they are the ones putting up the cash for renovations to the stadium. When the Scorpions proposed it in 2014 it would cost upwards of $45 million. Even at that price (it'll be higher most likely) that's not a slam dunk the city/county will do it. Maybe I'm wrong but I think they need more than just the MLS thumbs up. They are certainly much closer than Austin however.
  17. I have 2 really bad ones. I thought Ryan Leif would be the better NFL QB over Peyton Manning. I thought Ron Zook was an amazing hire at Illinois. The first one was all time dumb and doesn't need elaboration. The 2nd one had some bright spots, but even those weren't really that great. Brought in some fantastic players, but couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. The bright spots like 2008 Rose Bowl weren't really that great because they backdoored their way in with a 9-3 record since Ohio State was in the National Championship and the Rose Bowl was still clinging to the Big Ten-Pac10 thing. Now I'm super amped for a coach at Illinois that I wanted fired from the Bears for his last 3 years or so. Sports are weird.
  18. Count me impressed with Cincinnati. They made some pretty major missteps early on but they seem to have corrected them through the sheer will of some of their supporters groups. We'll see how it lasts. I'm hopeful for them but I've heard more than a few people call Cincinnati an "event town" where people turn up for events like opening day but not for the long haul. I don't live there so I don't really know how true that is so we'll see! They have another home game against a rival this week! Indy got 9k for a game 2 degrees above freezing. Probably 7k actual so not bad. I'm thinking it'll be closer to 10k this week against the Cosmos.
  19. How does Kansas give them more access to St. Louis than Illinois does? St. Louis is like 60/40 Missouri/Illinois now. Missouri hates Kansas. Maybe I'm missing something? Speaking of, although it worked out better for Missouri football going to the SEC, Missouri should be in the Big Ten over Rutgers. I know the timelines are different so it's not an either or situation, but Missouri feels like a Big Ten team way more than Rutgers and it would have been a nice way to tie Nebraska into the footprint a bit more. Kinda feel the same way about Maryland but not as much... Although a part of me is really interested in all of this expansion stuff and I love to imagine scenarios where the Big Ten and SEC have 20 teams, I hate what its done to college sports. Nothing makes sense, (I know its a bad joke, but the Big 12 has 10 teams, the Big Ten has 14 teams) teams only play 3/4 of the teams in football and some teams twice and others once in basketball...non-revenue sports having to travel from Nebraska to New Jersey for a regular season game...Big Ten basketball tournament is going to be in NYC and DC....its just not like it used to be...
  20. Business owners love this stuff. So do pretentious design folk. Put them together in charge of releasing logos and this is what you get... Of course if someone came out and said "We picked this logo because it looks cool" everyone would be up in arms over that too so you can't really win.
  21. Cosmos are gonna look good. And its not surprising that they might not get jerseys delivered considering they were unveiled about 3 weeks before the opener. Uniform deals for soccer at that level is pretty much done similar to how small colleges or high schools are done. Indy still isn't sure if they are going to do a 3rd kit or not this year and the season starts on April 2nd. Thats not inside info, they've publicly stated that.
  22. Average Attendance in 2015, all divisons: 1-20) All MLS Teams (Lowest 15,657) 21) Sacramento Republic (USL) (11,323) 22) Indy Eleven (NASL) (9,809) 23) Minnesota United (NASL) (8,748) 24) Jacksonville Armada (NASL) (7,927) 25) Louisville City (USL) (6,765) 26) San Antonio FC/Scorpions (NASL number but USL moving forward) (6,705) 27) Tampa Bay Rowdies (NASL) (5,648) 28) Rochester Rhinos (USL) (5,570) 29) Ottawa Fury (NASL) (5,406) 30) NY Cosmos (NASL) (4,984) 31) Saint Louis FC (USL) (4,885) 32) Tulsa Roughnecks (USL) (4,714) 33) Real Monarchs (USL) (4,698) Top MLS 2 team 34) Chattanooga FC (NPSL) (4,673) 35) Oklahoma Energy FC (USL) (4,635) 36) Carolina Railhawks (NASL) (4,539) 37) Ft. Lauderdale Strikers (NASL) (4,518) 38) Charleston Battery (USL) (4,080) 39) Atlanta Silverbacks (NASL Out of Business) (4,024) 40) Richmond Kickers (USL) (3,747) 41) Detroit City FC (NPSL) (3,528) 42) Arizona United SC (USL) (3,304) 43) Austin Aztex (USL, taking 2016 off) (3,227) 44) Portland Timibers 2 (USL) (3,122) 45) Wilmington Hammerheads (2,960) 46) FC Edmonton (NASL) (2,889) 47+) The rest of the USL mostly although I'm sure most NPSL and PDL teams draw more than FC Montreal (313), numbers are hard to get at those levels NASL Changes for next year: Indy will drop a bit unless they start winning. Minnesota might climb a bit. Ottawa will drop a bit. Miami, OKC, and Puerto Rico are all big question marks. I could see them all being anywhere from 3k to 7k or more. But probably somewhere slightly below league average. The rest should stay the same, however it will be interesting to see if Ft. Lauderdale suffers a bit because of the Miami team. USL Changes for next year: FC Cincy should draw about 6-8k, possibly more. They have 4k in season tickets already. San Antonio might actually increase in USL. Rochester should get a slight bump as well. The rest should stay the same. Not sure about the other entries like Bethlehem or Rio Grande Valley. NPSL Changes for next year: Detroit will probably near 6k next year moving into a new stadium. Chattanooga should continue to grow but they're aided by the huge 18k for the final, so the average might end up being about the same. Super impressive to be 34th as basically a amateur team. My non-MLS attendance predictions for 2016: 1) Sacramento (11k) 2) Minnesota (9k) 3) Indy (8k) 4) Jacksonville (8k) 5) Cincinnati (7k) 6) San Antonio (7k) 7) Louisville (7k) 8) Detroit (6k) 9) Rochester (6k) 10) Tampa Bay (6k) ...aka mostly Division 3 or 4 teams.
  23. I find myself agreeing a little on all fronts here. Its hard as a professional designer to not feel like the critics "don't get it" and usually when I read that something looks like a "third grader did it" I die inside a little. Sometimes I want to say "You don't know what went into this!" and when I do feel that way, I'm 100% wrong. Public opinion matters. However, only blaming designers for failures is not fair either. Because you don't know what went into this. There is typically plenty of blame to go around for a failed logo. Maybe a flawed brief, a team owner not knowing what they want (or knowing exactly what they want and its terrible), a designer that couldn't sell the vision properly, or...yes even poor craftsmanship. Logos are not art. Design is not art. They are artistic and they can be beautiful, but design is creative problem solving, its engineering. I'm not saying that to make it something more than it is, but the moment you have someone else approving the final outcome, it stops being self expression. Creating something solely for the end user is not art. Creating something with imposed limitations is not art. Basically I mean, It matters what non-designers think. The goal of design is to convey information the same way to everyone. That's oversimplifying it a bit, but that is what it's all about. Art doesn't do that. You want people to look at a painting and get different feelings, its about how they feel and what you felt as the artist. You don't design a logo because you want to convey a different feeling for everyone that looks at it, you design a logo to convey the message that company or brand wants the consumer to hear. Its a failure when it doesn't do that. It can have multiple meanings that appeal to different people, but two people shouldn't have 2 opposing takeaways from a design. I think this does a decent job of breaking it down: https://medium.com/art-marketing/design-is-not-art-d229af10c167#.s9houwf8z Dismissing the public's opinion on logos or design in general is dangerous. We don't design for other designers, we design for the public (fans specifically for sports design) and that's who the design needs to appeal to. And sports design is completely different from corporate design. A logo is as much a product as its is a brand in sports. A paper company's logo doesn't need to be sold on a hat to be successful. But a baseball mark doesn't sell on a hat, its a miss. If a mark or design is successful in the public's eyes, its reached its goal. In many ways, design really isn't that subjective. The best sports logo in the world is a failure if it doesn't resonate with the fanbase. If we don't acknowledge that, there becomes a huge rift between the designer and the end user. Its fun to get a ton of likes on dribble, but really does that mean we're meeting the needs of the end user? There needs to be respect to the consumer or else you've completely lost touch. On the other hand, its also important that we don't dismiss the professionals among this group. I think as fans of anything, we should want to know what goes into the creation of what we enjoy. As sports fans, we want to hear about the strategy that a coach uses, or learn about the skill and hard work that goes into hitting a 95 mph fastball. Learning about why a logo wasn't crafted as well as it could have been should be valuable information to the group. Its also important. Just like understanding what a "pick and roll" is can make basketball more exciting, knowing what goes into a well crafted logo can make the study of logos more fulfilling. I think everyone that's into Athletic logos want to see well crafted design. If we don't call out bad craftsmanship, it becomes normal. I think you've seen a huge shift in terms of craftsmanship in sports design over the last 10 years. There are a ton of factors involved, but one of them is defiantly the general consumer not caring about it as much as they once did about the details of logo and uniform design. Just imagine how awesome it would be if your favorite team's message board had a few current players and coaches in there to breakdown games and plays. That's what we currently have here.
  24. Way clean and overall a huge upgrade. But I'd have loved to see some restraint in the number of logos. Most colleges seem to make the mistake of including way too many logos in their systems. You don't need to think of every single scenario when you make guidelines for athletic logos. Examples: Word marks 5 & 6 (and there for marks 1& 2) are repetitive. Pick one or the other. Pick 1 of marks 3 and 4 or don't have them at all. They are t-shirt graphics, not logos. #10 should be the secondary (or honestly, the primary as its the logo that should be used the most) The fact that they have to use the primary in conjunction with it is just ridiculous. Imagine a T-shirt or hat that has to use both of those. Honestly all they need out of that system is 2, 5, 9, 10, and maybe 12. And 13 if they want to go by MTU. Then show the different ways to lock up the logos together, but more as examples.
  25. From a designer's perspective, I love the new package of graphics and how everything looks together. Clean and cohesive. Great branding throughout. From a fan's perspective, I really miss when they used to just apply an NCAA logo over the existing court. Boise's old court always stuck out to me because I think they hosted every year, and it was so unique: