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Well, what do you think proves a players skill more? Average or On Base Percentage?

My statement still stands.

I also believe it depends on the situation.

For instance, if your looking at a leadoff hitter, OBP might be slightly more important than average. You need that guy to table set.

However, if your looking at a 3-4-5 hitter, you probably want to check a players average just before you check OBP, because walks don't usually drive in runs.

But like I say, and as you can partly take from my short analysis, all the stats have to be looked at as a whole, then with observation, and analysis of the situation, to really figure out the skill of a player.

That said, I can tell your looking for a specific answer. So, though I don't think it means much looking at the stat by itself, I will say I generally put more weight in a players average than OBP. (And I'll go ahead and place a vote that way.)

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...However, if your looking at a 3-4-5 hitter, you probably want to check a players average just before you check OBP, because walks don't usually drive in runs...

I don't know about you, but I'll take a walk from my 3, 4, or 5 hitter. And last time I checked, RBI drive in runs not avg.

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...However, if your looking at a 3-4-5 hitter, you probably want to check a players average just before you check OBP, because walks don't usually drive in runs...

I don't know about you, but I'll take a walk from my 3, 4, or 5 hitter. And last time I checked, RBI drive in runs not avg.

I'll take a walk too. As I said, it's all gotta be looked at.

RBIs are what a player gets when he drives in a run, but more often than not he's gonna get that RBI via a hit, and average is based on hits.

Really, take my answer of AVG with a grain of salt. Like I said, one stat is meaningless without plenty more stats, observation, and analysis of the situation.

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...RBIs are what a player gets when he drives in a run, but more often than not he's gonna get that RBI via a hit, and average is based on hits...

Walks get people on base. Then they get driven in.

And OBP is also based on hits.

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...RBIs are what a player gets when he drives in a run, but more often than not he's gonna get that RBI via a hit, and average is based on hits...

Walks get people on base. Then they get driven in.

And OBP is also based on hits.

That's why in the original post I specifically noted the 3-4-5 hitters. Walks are good for them if the hitters behind them can drive them in. However, if you assume that the 1-2 hitters are getting on base via walks fairly often, a hit by the 3-4-5 guys is more likely to drive them in than a walk.

And yes, OBP is based on hits, but it's also based on walks and HBP. You can tell more about how good of a HITTER (not player, not even batter, but HIT-ter) a player is based on average than you can based on on-base percentage.

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And yes, OBP is based on hits, but it's also based on walks and HBP. You can tell more about how good of a HITTER (not player, not even batter, but HIT-ter) a player is based on average than you can based on on-base percentage.

That's true.

OPB shows a player's patience at the plate. So you can tell if a player is willing to take a walk to get on base.

So I'm guessing you would rather have Mark Teixeira than Jason Giambi.

Teixeira .290 .361 .548

Giambi .277 .445 .539

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leafs, I wouldn't necessarily rather have Texiera, and certainly I wouldn't base it on average.

I'm trying to make it clear to you that I won't let just one stat tell a story. I'll look at loads of stats, observation, and the situation before I take a side.

You however asked me to choose between average or onbase percentage. Reluctantly (because I don't think either can stand on its own) I choose average.

I'd never use just one stat though.

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leafs, I wouldn't necessarily rather have Texiera, and certainly I wouldn't base it on average.

I'm trying to make it clear to you that I won't let just one stat tell a story. I'll look at loads of stats, observation, and the situation before I take a side.

You however asked me to choose between average or onbase percentage. Reluctantly (because I don't think either can stand on its own) I choose average.

I'd never use just one stat though.

Okay, have it your way bk.

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I have to agree no 1 stat can tell you the true measure of a players skill. The closest thaing is a combo of many stats. If you were to build a team the best way to measure a players skill is your own 2 eyes. Watching the player play is the best way to measure a players skill.

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