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3 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

Michigan has had 3 home games and Houston has had 2. Their average is still around 7,000 for the 5 games. Houston being winless, and also pretty bad up until today didn't help. I think the league needs to accept that they need to have physical advertising in these cities, and as far as I can tell none of them have it. The league just figured that if St. Louis didn't need it they don't need to do that for anyone else. And since the Rock is back to focusing on WWE/TKO the only time he's been seen is the ZOA Energy drink commercials. Surprisingly, I think a lot of people are happy that's been the limit of his influence so far this year. 

 

I don't know if they have a deadline, but teams are able to do trades. I think with so many free agents that would have been on a team in either one of the old leagues, teams don't feel like they have to go to other teams to fix roster holes. I know a few Brahmas fans that want Lindsey Scott from Arlington, but it was also unlikely Arlington was going to let him go. 

 

7k  average across 5 games (equivalent of a team's full season home schedule) is not good at all. That's only 1k more than the Vegas Vipers averaged last year. I still think Michigan is most hurt by the new success of the Lions, and one could argue the same with Houston and the Texans. Two Texas teams is enough for now (as long as the Renegades pick it up, then it a few years, it could be San Antonio as the lone star in the state... clever punnery if I do say so myself). 

1 hour ago, Red Comet said:

 

Houston and Michigan need to be moved. NFL markets that aren't drawing well. Birmingham should be doing better, but going up against the A-Game (which drew 72k) one week and poor weather another, I'll give them some leeway. But Michigan and Houston have been low all 3 home games between them.

1 hour ago, Jacobseye said:

40 by '50- NFL

 

AFC East

Buffalo Bills

New England Patriots

New York Jets

Toronto Northmen

 

NFC East

New York Giants

Philadelphia Eagles

Dallas Cowboys

Washington Commanders

 

AFC North

Baltimore Ravens

Cleveland Browns

Cincinnati Bengals

Pittsburgh Steelers

 

NFC North

Detroit Lions

Chicago Bears

Green Bay Packers

Minnesota Vikings

 

AFC South

Indianapolis Colts

Miami Dolphins

Houston Texans

Tennessee Titans

 

NFC South

Atlanta Falcons

Carolina Panthers

Orlando Buccaneers

Omaha Saints

 

AFC West

Denver Broncos

Kansas City Chiefs

Las Vegas Raiders

Mexico Chargers

 

NFC West

Seattle Seahawks

San Francisco 49ers

Arizona Cardinals

Los Angeles Rams

 

AFC Europe

London Monarchs (Former Jaguars)

Madrid Dragons

Dublin Griffins

Scotland Claymores

 

NFC Europe

Frankfurt Galaxy

Munich Barbarians

Berlin Thunder

Paris Phantoms

This might be one of the most insanely ridiculous NFL realignment concepts I've ever seen. Kudos. I'm assuming that was what you were going for.

2 hours ago, HOOVER said:

Lot of assumptions here.

 

Lots of Bills fans lobbying for a return the Jim Kelly-era uniforms.

 

Washington hasn’t confirmed any of those details, though I would welcome both.

 

Phil’s recent Nike pieces mentioned that Laurie considered changing uniforms, shooting a hole in that longstanding rumor that Lurie would never change.

You misspelled your own name. That's gotta be embarrassing.

53 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

Desperately needs blue socks

Desperately needs to bring back the original gold pants and burn all the ones they replaced them with.

3 minutes ago, Chi-Tex_Kidd said:

Gonna go ahead and double down. HUGE downgrade.

How so?

1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

Unless someone can guarantee 15,000 every game, which other than St. Louis I don't think any city in the country can, work on getting numbers up this year and then work your butt off advertising during the NFL season. If you do that next year and still aren't getting fans, then look at moving them. You are sharing space with the Lions, make it work for you. That's what the Commanders did, working with UTSA, but the Brahmas haven't as far as I'm aware. 

Difference is the Panthers are playing in the home of a team that was a 2nd half meltdown away from the Super Bowl after many years of bad to mediocrity. San Antonio isn't.

Not exact, but not too dissimilar striping patterns.

Still, massive upgrade.

8 hours ago, Pa02 said:

 

Y'all are never happy. 

 

One minute y’all love the chargers uniforms then y’all want them to change it back to the navy blue from the 90s.

 

 next y’all complain about the 49ers not having the correct amount of stripes then y’all complain about it needed to go back the way it was.

 

Then the Bucs stepped away from their time clock numbers, and y'all want them to go ugly 70s kitchen orange again.

 

Just STOP!

 

Not everything old is good. Some things don’t need to be brought back. The Jets finally went back to one of their best-looking sets and log, and here you all are on day one complaining.

I was thinking about stopping, but then I read your post and now, I think I'll continue waffling back and forth, maybe even more than ever, simply out of spite. Thanks for the new life goals!

9 hours ago, M59 said:

Despite the fact that I've been watching little to no baseball this year, I did catch a bit of the Orioles-Twins game tonight.

The Twins' jerseys definitely seemed more blue than their pants did.

In close-up, during his postgame interview, Cedric Mullins' Orioles jersey looked like waffle weave (?) or circa 2003 OG Cool Base. Very textured looking. Looked like it might have had a velcro closure between the 2nd and 3rd buttons as well.

On-field jerseys have had velcro closures for many years.

Our first thread to be ganjacked?

11 minutes ago, Sodboy13 said:

Sgt. Bettman's Lonely Mall Rink Band

With their hit, "Slow Death in a Parking Lot".

8 hours ago, The_Admiral said:

 

Not on this board, no, but the ass-grabbers on reddit are all holding each other and weeping about how Phoenix is really a great market that was done wrong by a horrible league that just gave up too soon. I get annoyed but then it's possible some of them are 14 years old and literally were not alive when Jerry Moyes first :censored:ed off.

TwiX is the same thing. And most of them aren't even from the Phoenix area. They just go around looking for any opportunity to be the advocate for fanbases being "taking advantage of by greedy owners".  They won't even do the most basic of research to see that it was this owner and the league itself that were the ones trying to keep them there and it was the locals who didn't care about them leaving.

6 minutes ago, Sport said:

 

I have no excitement for Utah either and I think we're all kind of blindsided by that being the location that ultimately landed the Coyotes after the dozen other markets that got close in the last decade. It reminds me of Jacksonville getting the Jags because the NFL needed to expand by two teams, but the bids in better markets all tripped over their own butts so the Jacksonville bid was picked by default. 

 

I was just correcting our guy up there who said that people were hypocritically celebrating the Utah Hockey Pucks using public funds to build an arena when A. nobody is doing that because B. that would require that anyone be fired up for Utah at all. 

 

 

A thing I think is interesting is most people's response has been "ahh yeah well probably for the best" Very few people defending Phoenix.

 

At least now we get to stop following their endless relocation saga. It's a bit of a relief. 

 

Yet I keep getting into it with the small population who feel the opposite, on TwiX (although most of them seem to be from elsewhere who are just positing themselves as the saviors sticking up for those who are suffering from the loss of their team... and failing to use logic to do so). 

7 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

 

You gotta say it with more panache, like:

 

【 Ｓｋａｔｉｎｇ　ｏｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｆｒｏｚｅｎ　ｂｌｏｏｄ　ｏｆ　ｎｏｎ－ｂｅｌｉｅｖｅｒｓ】

... in the parking lot.

11 hours ago, Cujo said:

 

Any way we can bookmark these things?

 

Also, who tf is Mark Pope? Zero career tournament wins? Have fun, UK! 

Safe hire. Alum who was a captain on their 1996 National Championship team.

27 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

A guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy, says these are the Jets uniforms

 

7 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said:

 

There is still a group of fans that will be heartbroken by the move, even if it isn't as sizeable as other markets, plus hundreds of regular people who will be losing their jobs or forced to uproot their lives if they want to stay employed. Obviously it's a business decision, but there are still human impacts to any relocation.

If there's not enough interest in the current market, then it's doomed to fail. Possibly after causing even more damage. Delaying the inevitable is not really a good thing.

1 hour ago, spartacat_12 said:

 

Look I'm well aware that I've taken the unpopular side of this debate over the years. Part of it is because I've personally seen a couple of my teams get relocated (including one I was working for), and part of it is just playing devil's advocate to try and balance things out. When they lost the Tempe vote I assumed that would be it for them, and I'm still a little confused as to why the league didn't just get the relocation wheels in motion as soon as that happened.

 

What I'm pointing out is the hypocrisy within the hockey community (not just on here). Any time a new arena/stadium is announced people complain about public funding and talk about how it never actually helps taxpayers, yet there's suddenly all this excitement about Utah having a new publicly funded arena planned. 

This is not the same as other relocations as it genuinely seems like the Phoenix market doesn't care one way or the other if the Coyotes leave town.

10 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

I guess he’ll never get to find out who did it

7 hours ago, Unocal said:

 

UConn is an eyesore. tiresome, boring, dull, joyless. Nobody NOBODY asked for another Husky rerun

 

God forbid we get something different. But no, instead we get the outcome nobody wanted.

 

Last night was good vs evil and evil won

 

I gotta say, the irony of YOU saying every word of this post is not lost on anyone.

7 hours ago, Unocal said:

 

 "Dear Dan..." 

11 hours ago, Red Comet said:

 

 

The 3 other games combined were 8,999 less than St. Louis on it's own.

8 minutes ago, Silver_Star said:

 

No, with the Rams, keep the horns. If the Rams gotten a logo, it would not fare well with fans as they are used to the horns on the helmets. I find the horns on the helmet to be awesome. I like it. Downsizing the Rams helmet where they are just like every NFL team is just not unique. The Rams and Bengals have a unique helmet and not to be touched because it is creative for 1948 and 1981 respectfully.

He said helmets AS the logo.

1 hour ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

Are they going to be dubbed the Sacramento A's?

Nope, just the "Athletics" or "A's". So the AL West will have both  "Angels Baseball" and "Athletics/A's Baseball" merchandise.