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Your attention to detail is top notch. Thank you for doing this.

Oh sorry. I didn't think it was meant to be that way.

There is a black spot in your 4 in 49ers.

Great field. Great game. Brand new stadium. John Candy was there...

Actually Rozelle attended Compton Junior College and the University of San Francisco.

Hmmm, I wonder if it just had something to do with him being from the Bay Area? I know I read it somewhere....just can't put my finger on where I read that. If I find it, I will get back to you.

Pete Rozelle attended Stanford I believe. He bugged the owners for years to have a Super Bowl at Stanford Stadium.

This is my new favorite thread! Nice work!

I never really understood why GM needed so many different brands, and what niche each was supposed to fill.

Chevy - mainstream value line. Buick - nicer trim / nicer ride than Chevy (kinda like Infinity to Nissan). Cadillac - the flagship, top of the line. Then they had Pontiac, the "performance" brand, but that was diluted by having cheap under-performing cars that were just Chevy's with different logos. Oldsmobile - I have no idea where this fits in. We always had Oldsmobiles growing up, but they weren't really "nice". Kinda in between Chevy and Buick, but not significantly different than either. We had one of http://postmoderngen...obile.jpg]these jawns.

Then they had Saturn, which didn't really fit in anywhere. They didn't even share the frames or designs of the other cars. I guess that's a good thing - maybe all of the brands should have been more independent, but it's not financially feasible.

Then there's GMC, which makes sense, except that everything GMC marketed was also marketed by Chevy.

Never understood why the US car manufacturers just can't separate their brands better, and then market cars within each brand that actually make sense for said brand.

Well I think the problem with them more was that they essentially went all in on SUV's and ignored their other brands/designs. I don't think they was anything wrong with having brands as they did, I just don't think they invested in them enough.

I also completely agree with what Michael Moore said back in '89 in that they were a company far more concerned with short term profits and their stock price then building a company that could be successful in the long run. Say what you want about him politically, but he was 100% correct with that criticism of GM. We're turning record profits but we need to cut back on the number of employees and plants we have in order to survive. That I look at as the number one reason why they went from being the largest auto company in the world to being bankrupt within two decades. It wasn't done to make the company better, it was done so the investors could make a quick buck and then dump the stock. It was corporate raiding from the inside out.

I have worked at a GM dealer for 14+ years. And I still don't understand some of the things they do. The place where I work at one time had Chevrolet, Buick, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac. When Oldsmobile went away, GM gave our dealership a $10,000 for losing a franchise. When Pontiac went away, we got nothing. We had to pay for the new signage. And......and.......you had to agree to renovate your building up to GM's new standards, after completely renovating the showroom 5 or 6 years prior! I have talked to a dealer who lost his Chevrolet franchise when "old" GM went through the bankruptcy and didn't get picked up with the "new" GM and he said, that knowing what he knows now, he would have dropped the franchise himself a long time ago. He continues to be successful and a used car dealer and a repair shop. No more "requirements" to buy anything. Here is a good example of GM not making any sense at all. The Chevrolet Volt, the plug in electric/hybrid car is a really great car. They cost about $40,000 and can get the equivalent of 93 miles per gallon of gas. Now, as you can imagine, there isn't a big market for these yet, and in 2 years, we have sold about 4 of them, and really, if you make a $1,000 profit on one, you did pretty well. Here is the kicker, there is a battery diagnostic tool for this ONE vehicle that our service department is required to have. The cost: $6,000!!! So, just generalizing a bit and not adding in the cost for other things like training and what not, that is a $2,000 loss on 4 cars! Sorry to throw my rant in there. LoL.

Retired numbers should be done away with, more respect can be paid through induction to either Pro Football or team hall of fames.

I agree. I think I would rather see some rookie QB, let's say for the 49ers, look down on his chest and say, wow, I'm wearing Joe Montana's number. It doesn't disrespect what that player did, it honors what he did. JMO.

I have given it my full endorsement.

Dennis Rodman wore 73 for the Lakers.