charger77

I hope you get robbed one day and the thief leaves a note that says: Dear homeowner, I really like your stuff but I can't afford it so I just helped myself to whats in your garage. P.S. If you're going to blame anybody blame companies for charging too much and my boss for not paying me enough. If you really think about it... it not really my fault. Besides what do you care about being robbed for, people are speeding!

Because over the past 30 years, real wages have gone down and commodity prices have gone up. Real wages going down and prices going up is justification for purchasing counterfit items?

Because the point of business to make as much money as the market will allow you to make? This isn't a hard concept to grasp. The NFL has the right to sell their own products at whatever price they want. If the consumer base is willing to pay that price, then the NFL's justified in continuing to sell their products at that price. If you think the price is to high, then don't buy the product. If enough people think it's to high and similarly refuse to buy the product then the NFL will lower the price. It's not your place to tell the NFL they're wrong for selling their own products at a price the market is willing to support. Thanks for replying to that so I didn't have to.

So doing something illegal is ok as long as it isn't an American that gets screwed? When these unlicensed products are illegally bought and sold the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA ect are all losing on revenue. I'm guessing an American or two gets screwed in that process.

They're only $20 ($30 for NHL) compared to the real deal, it's much better. I've never bought a counterfeit, only replicas, but I know people who have and they have no complaints at all about them. Really, its worth saving the money, especially for college kids. Believe me the fakes are noticable. When I see this on the Counterfit site: They always forget to add the part that say "Unless you really want one" or, "But its cool if you can't afford the legal ones".

No crap. Good for you sport, its no speeding right?

Actually I don't download music illegally. You're using a Transformers avatar. Did you get prior written consent from the creators? Do you have written consent from the Washington Redskins and/or Sean Taylor? Fact is that Hasbro, TakaraTomy, Paramount, and Dreamworks have released sets of Transformers imagery, including the Decepticon logo in my avatar, to be used free of charge for use as message board and IM avatars. I could stick a picture of Optimus Prime's face in my avatar space and it would be ok because the owners of the Transformers brand have made it clear they have no issue with people using their IP in such a manner. Really, though, you're just trying another variation on the same tactic. To try and deflect the issue. What I do is unimportant. The topic of the thread is counterfeit jerseys. Everything else, as far as this thread is concerned, does not matter. At all. Like BBTV said. If you know it's wrong to support intellectual property theft and you do so anyway then go ahead. The total failure of people here to even recognize that it's wrong is baffling at best and downright sad at worst. I think we've covered this before. Late in the season, when they've run out of white jerseys for teams that go far in the playoffs, they simply take blank Raiders white jerseys and put the appropriate stripes and numbers on them. Hence you'll have disparities like this. At least a hundred times. It's crap, but it's normal and it's still a licensed replica. Also, the quality or accuracy of officially-licensed replicas or even on-field jerseys is NOT repeat NOT the issue here. NOT. NOT. I don't know what you're getting at but replicas are crappy and too expensive. Why not get a fake?

Knowing you are buying an illegal knockoff and having absolutely no clue that you are a two different things, but that has not been the argument in this thread. Just because many get away with it does not make it less illegal.

Can't it be both?

Even if its a gift, its still illegal.

Blackhawk fakes can be spotted from a million miles away. I'm guessing the name font is wrong and they didn't get the 1 right and the Captian's C is incorrect too.

Why can't the Feds go after more important crimes like speeding?

But other than that...

Los and Angeles appears to be seperate on the NBA.com jersey but not on the fake. Also, the LAC monogram appears to be lower on the collar on the fake than on the NBA.com version.

It's overlooked because it's irrelevant. Also, I just skimmed the last few pages so I may have missed this, but was there an good argument made on the side of the NFL being a monopoly? If so, could it be repeated, because I have no idea how this could be the case (even if there's some kind of anti-trust exemption in play.) I don't see how a product manufacturer doesn't have exclusive rights to their product, and the NFL is in effect one single manufacturer. If you want to make the argument that the 32 teams should be split up into more independent entities, then that's one thing, but either way, I fail to see any way to argue that the NFL is a monopoly. Yeah, isn't that like saying McDonalds is a monopoly because only they can sell McDonalds products?

Yes. But once an accident occurs it becomes a crime with a victim. SO, has charger77 bought any knock offs since starting this thread ? Nope. GOING TO ? Nope.

From your link, the "low quality Chinese jersey" looks better than what the Colts wear on the field. Just saying...and laughing. You think so? To me the poor quality of the numbers and letters just scream "cheap knockoff to me". For example do you notice the "wavyness" in the numbers? It is not the stiff tackel twill that should be there. Its kind of the same material of a logo that would be on a Starter jacket.

Yes. But once an accident occurs it becomes a crime with a victim. SO, has charger77 bought any knock offs since starting this thread ? Nope.

Yes. But once an accident occurs it becomes a crime with a victim.

+1. THANK YOU. YAY for stealing! ...says the person who admits to speeding on a regular basis, AND not caring about it because it's not his car. Actually, I have said that I don't speed because it is not my car. If you're gonna call me out get your facts straight: And, even though you can't manage to understand it: Speeding is a victimless crime a whereas stealing is not.

+1. THANK YOU. YAY for stealing!

In addition to the obvious problems, does the jersey on the right show a "5" on the sleeve? WTF! Yeah, but if you really, really want a jersey but can't afford one.

This and the "low rent DG_Now" comment are the two greatest things I have ever read in the CCSLC!

Like it or not, its illegal. However, this is not the case.