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While the jersey may only cost $8 to make, how much does say a Dicks or Sports Authority pay to buy them from RBK? How much does it cost to ship the jersey to the retail location? What percentage of the jersey sale go to the paycheck of the check out person etc... Just because they cost $8 to make there are a lot of hidden costs once it finally gets to the consumer.

They're counterfeits, yes, but they're the only way to get a replica Barons jersey. They're one of the bastard children of the NHL that get no love from the throwbacks department. The only other way would be as mentioned above, to make one yourself but if the replicas aren't out there, good luck finding logo sets. That was my dilemma. Can something be considered a counterfeit if the item is not produced and sold on the legit market?

Why would the Pens put other teams logos on their ring? Seems stupid if you ask me. I agree. The Lightning did it too: Don't opponent logos usually appear on Super Bowl rings too?

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Are these considered to be counterfeits? Since the NHL is not producing them at all they are not "Knockoffs" in the truest sense, but I am guessing that they do not have licensing rights to use the logos/name?

I've been wondering... are they considered to be the same as counterfeit jerseys?

I have not idea why any NHL realignment concept would feature expansion. Relocation yes, expansion no.

The Government may disagree. How does that statement about glass houses go?

The Government may disagree.

Yes, they are. $300 is the market price for an authentic. If you can't afford it, then don't get a jersey. You're not entitled to one. Someday, you'll understand how the world really works. Actually, he does own a jersey. As does everyone else who owns a knockoff. Someday, you'll understand how the world really works. Yeah! Break the laws that you don't like.

Then you're not entitled to own a jersey. Sorry, that's life. When you see someone wearing a knock-off, whether it be at a game or on the street, do you go up to them and preach about how they are not entitled to own that jersey? Anyone else on here do that? No, because I'm not the kind of annoying jackass who would go up to some random person on the street and preach at them. That doesn't change the fact that they're wrong for doing it. But you are the kind of annoying jackass who would preach at some random person over the Internet.

No one has answered my question concerning designers, how many of the current MAJOR sports logos designers are paid royalties on each jersey purchased? I am guessing 0 so I am not hurting the designers in any way. This is not true. Say team A is wiling to pay $50k for a great new logo and uniform design. This is based on their analysis that a new look will spur $1,000,000 in sales in the next year. The new logo is a hit, but the counterfeiters are all over it, so sales of legit licensed gear only net $500,000. This will lead to one of two things - either the team (or the next team in a similar situation) will offer the designer (or firm) $25k for the next package, or the licensees will absorb the cost and offer significantly less next time around. Either way there's less money to pay the designer, which has a trickle down effect on the industry as a whole. It's a shame that most of the strong debaters checked out of this thread ages ago. After reading the last few pages, I'm thinking about ordering some fakes. Not really. then the firm designing the logo needs to negotiate better and say, "No, we want $50K for our services." If the designer is that good, they'll get their money.

Honestly, that's not bad at all for $20. Yeah, he did get a "$20 Jersey" but its still a counterfeit knockoff and IP theft.

Also the placement of the patches seems off.

But who cares! You're a fan of a team, which means you're entitled to a jersey, right? If I am paying for the item, then yes. Except that you AREN'T paying for it. You decided jerseys were too expensive, so you purchase poorly-reproduced knock-offs instead. These so-called poorly produced knockoffs have lasted longer than the ones I purchased legitimately. They also look great, I would never wear one that looks like the crap posted here. Post a picture of your jerseys then, if you're so confident, skipper. He's a troll. He'll post legit ones and tell us they are the fakes. I will be happy to post pics of my jerseys, and I will only use real pics of my jerseys. I love how anyone who doesn't share your point of view is a troll, give me a break. The last name and number fonts look suspect.

Wavy numbers and front crest.

But who cares! You're a fan of a team, which means you're entitled to a jersey, right? If I am paying for the item, then yes. Except that you AREN'T paying for it. You decided jerseys were too expensive, so you purchase poorly-reproduced knock-offs instead. These so-called poorly produced knockoffs have lasted longer than the ones I purchased legitimately. They also look great, I would never wear one that looks like the crap posted here. Post a picture of your jerseys then, if you're so confident, skipper. He's a troll. He'll post legit ones and tell us they are the fakes.

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And this is based on? Republicans are generally for less regulation. Less regulation makes it easier to buy and sell counterfeits. I think that's what he was trying to say, although it's a pretty huge generalization, and obviously isn't completely true. But there is a bit of logic to what he was saying. of course there is

And this is based on?

Explain your username then. Making excuses is just in insult to our intelligence. Maybe he likes fakes because they are more affordable. Most illegal merchandise is normally cheaper.

Hell look at his name and what his first and only posting was about.

Is this considered to be a fake an/or knockoff?

Not a wrong uniform in the truest sense (as it relates to this thread) but I would have not been too disapointed to see this: Gretzky Kings Jersey

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