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These dumb :censored:s are going to keep the team in Glendale.

Many businesses -- but we can't tell you who! -- say they're going to punch me in the balls if I don't vote for hockey.

Eff you.

Spending millions to pay for hockey in the hope you'll generate funds to pay for police officers is dumb. These people are dumb.

So the arena manager is "obligated for due diligence and commercially reasonable et cetera."

"Our fire chief had to close multiple fire houses this year and our police department can't hire new officers."

"Well we tried to book Nickelodeon on Ice! We tried really hard!"

I wish they had been in HD during public comment.

I love that she's conflated subsidizing hockey AND "the dream of home ownership." Burn Glendale to the ground.

B. Wyatt -- more like B. Quiet, right?

EDIT: This is so much fun. What a great way to spend a Tuesday.

Twitter is doing its job:

Kevin ‏@KevFu 2m

The well endowed girl makes great points on economic development. She could be my anchor tenant #Coyotes #NHLSeattle

They GUARANTEE 41 nights of hockey per season! 41!

Young Boob Woman did a nice research job for her op-ed writing 101 class.

"Paying for parking is a nationally accepted practice." YOU DON'T SAY.

If a student business analyst at the University of Phoenix thinks Glendale's better off with the Coyotes, well then, that's good enough for me!

RSE is unwilling to grant city the early termination clause they want.

But at least those poor hockey fans are being offered a seat. That's nice of the Glendale council.

I remember thinking the NHL was the bee's knees in the late 90s.

In all honestly, the NHL became the Big East of pro sports once ESPN dumped it.

I will say this. If the NHL goes to Seattle, it is imperative for the league to get control of a hypothetical new arena and then absolutely refuse to give a lease to an NBA team. A Sonics revival is not in its best interests.

Not possible. The hypothetical arena is being built by the guys trying to bring the NBA to Seattle. Hockey is always going to be a secondary consideration even with a team at Key Arena. That said a secondary consideration Coyotes in Seattle are better than the no consideration Coyotes in Glendale.

No, not really. I'd rather the NHL not be a catspaw for some effort to secure a basketball team.

You say that like the NHL hadn't sacrificed its dignity long ago.

Nothing should be allowed anywhere called "Hotlanta."

Does this site work with Tapatalk?

If there is still doubt, here's a local news story showing KeyArena's ice making capabilities.

http://www.king5.com...-212867481.html

Speaking of local news, isn't it surprising how little the Seattle Times cares about the Coyotes? It's a pretty stark contrast to their up-to-the-second reporting on the Kings/Hansen saga.

The more I think, the more it's best for the Seattle NHL team to come online first. If an NHL team followed the new Sonics, it'd be much harder to get Seattle's attention on another winter sport. By coming first, the Coyotes have another couple of years to establish themselves as part of the sports landscape before having to compete with the Sonics.

It's probably the best way to establish both teams in the long-run.

I'm thrilled that Glendale has apparently wised up and this may be it for the Coyotes. I'm much less thrilled about them setting up a slapdash team in Seattle , rushing jersey/logos which will make the OKC Thunder's logo look like a painstaking design, and playing their games in a local ice rink.

Whose to say they aren't currently done/in the works?

Whose to say they will even change the logo and jersey (minus the Arizona patch)? We may have a Tennessee Oilers situation for this upcoming season.

Swap the colors to the Sounders/Seahawks palette and call it good. Easy.

That's some cold . The NHL is the worst.

the only winter sport in town

Plus Huskies football and basketball. The latter has the most schedule overlap and serves a different market, but you can fit 10,000 for basketball at Hec Ed.

Even still, I think the NHL could reliably cobble together 9-11,000 fans each night, no problem. I'd go twice and buy a jersey. I still don't get why that's preferable to 20,000 a night in Quebec, but whatevs.

Kenora "has a Cup to its name." Who gives a sh-t? What a stupid thing to have said.

I don't think anyone's saying that Seattle cannot, under any circumstances, support the NHL at an adequate level. Market size and local economy would say that they could carve out a decent niche, but like you said yourself, there is a glaring lack of resources at the time. I would like to see the NHL in Seattle, after having laid the necessary groundwork for a team, rather than trying to throw it down in two months just to avoid the imagined ignominy of moving a hockey team to Canada. There's another city that you could say would have been able to support the NHL at an adequate level had they had foresight, patience, and a sturdy business plan rather than fast-tracking a relocation away from somewhere better and dealing with debilitating temporary arenas just to plant a flimsy flag. They have one foot out the door of that city right now.

I'm not sure who are what you're upset with here. While the Kings poaching was more or less supported by all levels of Seattle public and private interests, the Coyotes deal is more of an "okay, that's cool" kind of deal. There's a small piece on the Seattle Times site about it today, with just three comments. And even then, the piece is more about what an NHL team would do for the NBA arena, not about NHL for the NHL's sake.

I don't know all of the players in this deal, but this -- to me -- seems radically different than that Kings saga. That, at its core, was one city trying to take another's team. This is more a gift horse, if it even happens.

What a dumb way for a city to land an NHL franchise. And how sad that the NHL seems to place so little value on its product that it could let it happen.

there's no history of hockey support in this arena

You know how I know you aren't from here?

That's fair, but I've been here almost seven years. I don't see a latent demand for hockey. At all really. Granted, I've never been to Kent to watch Thunderbirds, but I have seen them at KeyArena. It wasn't an impressive showing, on any account.

I'd be happy if it all worked out here. I just don't expect it to.

1. Seahawks

2. UW football

3. Mariners

4. Sounders

5. UW basketball

6. Reminiscing about the Sonics while watching Macklemore videos

7. Rooting for Chris Hansen and Steve Ballmer's pursuit of the NBA

8. Rat City Rollergirls

9. Seattle NHL team

And if the NHL did come to Seattle, then what? There's no guarantee of an arena to ever be built, there's no history of hockey support in this arena, and even if a new arena were constructed, the Seattle Coyotes would be permanently second place to Sonics 2.0.

I love for cool new things to come to my city, but I'm not so blinded by civic pride that I can't see this being a terrible idea. It'd be fun to see NHL hockey at KeyArena once or twice, but long-term? I just don't see it.

"But...but the Seattle Storm's lease with the city only gives them the space for the gift shop and no suite revenues, nor any naming rights to KeyArena (which expired in 2010). Seattle is a goldmine ready for owners to make a profit!!!!!"

If it is Seattle, then Don Levin has shown the Board of Governors that he has the cash in escrow.

I don't think there's a money problem in Seattle, but I do think there's an interest one.

Ha -- I overlooked the Storm, Seattle's only two-time champion team. I don't feel bad, either.

1. Seahawks

2. UW football

3. Mariners

4. Sounders

5. UW basketball

6. Reminiscing about the Sonics while watching Macklemore videos

7. Rooting for Chris Hansen and Steve Ballmer's pursuit of the NBA

8. Rat City Rollergirls

9. Seattle NHL team

And if the NHL did come to Seattle, then what? There's no guarantee of an arena to ever be built, there's no history of hockey support in this arena, and even if a new arena were constructed, the Seattle Coyotes would be permanently second place to Sonics 2.0.

I love for cool new things to come to my city, but I'm not so blinded by civic pride that I can't see this being a terrible idea. It'd be fun to see NHL hockey at KeyArena once or twice, but long-term? I just don't see it.

It was confirmed on the Hotstove tonight that if the Coyotes do not have a deal in place by July 2nd, the team is moving to...

Seattle.

At this point, Bettman and the legislators are throwing b#tch slaps at Quebec. How did Seattle jump to the forefront of NHL relocation?

Because it's the second-stupidest option to staying in Phoenix.