loogodude90

Explain your username then. Making excuses is just in insult to our intelligence. Maybe he likes fakes because they are more affordable.

Right, and that leads into something else I was thinking - I bet all these people complaining about child labor own and have owned several items that could just have likely been manufactured using child labor.

The point is that they are both illegal. We are all lawbreakers to some degree. Also, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that driving 1 mph over the speed limit isn't the worst crime you've committed. There's no way you or I can prove or disprove that here. But I don't believe it.

Well, depending on the volume, you may have some explaining to do at some point. But, the bottom line is that you and others wearing these poorly made knock-offs will continue to look stupid in public and be laughed at (by many more than just us) behind your back. I don't see the allure of buying a vastly inferior product just to save a few bucks. I would be more embarrassed to be a person who laughs at some random person he doesn't know for wearing a knockoff, than be the actual person wearing a knockoff.

No, the bottom line is that you're a pompous, selfish, egotistical windbag who doesn't know when to quit. I've been called worse. I'm sure you are a model citizen who has never done wrong. The typical defense for a man who has no defense. Flip it around on the other person, deflect it from yourself to another. There's nothing wrong calling someone out for being a hypocrite. If you do something illegal and then call me out for it, then there's nothing wrong with reminding you of what you did.

And Nashville is more of a cultural fit in the Southeast than Columbus. /What good is ease of travel when your fans don't travel anyway? Meh I've never thought of it being a cultural fit. I've always thought of it as a locational fit. And Columbus clearly fits in better with the rest of the East. /Columbus fits in better with Washington and arguably Raleigh anyways. What's Raleigh like culturally? //Still thinks everyone's thinking of the Southeast Division as including Atlanta as far as Nashville fitting better... Nashville is a geographically southeastern city. Columbus is a northern Midwestern town. Which makes more sense? Plus as shown above, the overall and average mileage shows that Nashville makes more sense in the southeast division than Columbus does. I wouldn't call Nashville a geographically southeastern city any more than I would call Columbus a geographically northeastern city. Columbus is further East than Nashville. Nashville in the Western Conference, Columbus in the Eastern Conference. OK, let's approach it from this tack since reason seems to have trouble registering here. I think the good people of Nashville are going to take more pleasure in watching the hometown team beat down their fellow Southerners in Raleigh, Miami, Tampa Bay, and Washington than some teams in Yankeeland. Conversely, the people of Columbus, who really, really would like to see the hometown team play Detroit a lot (among others). Does that make sense to you? This is a professional league with a continent-wide footprint. Travel is really a tertiary concern, if that. What could be more "reasonable" than saying that the team that is further East (Columbus) should be put in the Eastern Conference, and the team that is further West (Nashville) should be put in the Western Conference? Even after all of the circles this conversation has gone in, that's still the most "reasonable" conclusion on the matter.

And Nashville is more of a cultural fit in the Southeast than Columbus. /What good is ease of travel when your fans don't travel anyway? Meh I've never thought of it being a cultural fit. I've always thought of it as a locational fit. And Columbus clearly fits in better with the rest of the East. /Columbus fits in better with Washington and arguably Raleigh anyways. What's Raleigh like culturally? //Still thinks everyone's thinking of the Southeast Division as including Atlanta as far as Nashville fitting better... Nashville is a geographically southeastern city. Columbus is a northern Midwestern town. Which makes more sense? Plus as shown above, the overall and average mileage shows that Nashville makes more sense in the southeast division than Columbus does. I wouldn't call Nashville a geographically southeastern city any more than I would call Columbus a geographically northeastern city. Columbus is further East than Nashville. Nashville in the Western Conference, Columbus in the Eastern Conference.

What are the divisions? Or did you mean conferences? And if you did, I think 2 of the conferences take up more than 1 timezone.

This is what I believe SHOULD happen. Now, does that mean it's actually going to? And this image clearly shows that Columbus is considerably closer to Washington and closer to Raleigh than Nashville is. As well as being a considerably distance farther east. Remember that without Atlanta, Nashville isn't within 500 miles of a single conference opponent. The Jackets would be within 500 miles of 2 division opponents, and 4 other conference opponents (Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Philadelphia). They'd be within 500 miles of nearly half the conference, while Nashville wouldn't be within 500 miles of any of the East. I agree... if ATL moves to WIN, the the eastern-most Western Conference team should move east. I believe that team is CLB.

Are you charger77's spokesman now? He couldn't find anyone better to try to explain his worthless arguments? I recognize that buying bootleg jerseys is illegal, but it's one of those crimes that's a lot less harmful than some other crimes in this world that go unpunished. That doesn't make it completely right, but it makes me care less about it than other issues. And it also makes me not feel bad about doing it. I guarantee you've broken several laws in your life. No one really has the right to be holier-than-thou about lawbreaking.

Agreed... if you are going to go counterfeit, you need to at least examine the merchandise before buying it. I'm not following you.

Agreed... if you are going to go counterfeit, you need to at least examine the merchandise before buying it.

I totally forgot he even wore that uniform, even though it was just a few years ago. Shows how far OKC has come in such a short amount of time.

3 things - 1)I would have Dallas in the Central instead of San Antonio. It just makes more sense. 2)I would have CLE in the East, and ATL in the Central. Again, it just makes more sense. 3)I'm not a big fan of the Rivals thing. I feel like that's not fair to a team that gets stuck with a really good rival.

I think he looks "wrong" in a Nats uniform, too.

To be fair, Pennsylvania has two NL teams (in-state rivals, if you will) in real life. They're not really rivals though. Philadelphia's sports rivalries are with the New York and New Jersey teams. The non-sports "jealous younger brother" rivalry that some (albeit few) idiots think exists would clearly be with New York. Pittsburgh vs Philadelphia is only really a rivalry in Pittsburgh - though there, I'd say that the non-sports factor is even greater than the sports factor. True, but the point was that PA's only two teams are in the same league. And one of JH4XCC's objections was that having CIN and CLE be in the same league was a problem. Oh, well then it's certainly not a problem. It's only a problem when they're in the same market, as in a non-shared-revenue league, keeping them split gives more of the smaller teams access to dates with the bigger / higher-revenue-generating clubs. Or in the case of the NFL, it allows them to sell NY as a market to two separate networks. Cleveland and Cincinnati, both being relatively smaller markets, would cause no such issues if grouped together. Yeah, there's no market issues, but in MLB, it falls under tradition. The Reds have always been an NL team, and the Indians an AL team. So grouping them in one division or league would not be a good move. Any re-alignment is going to break tradition. The Brewers were an AL team for almost 30 years before they were moved to the NL.

Who the f-ck is that? That's Mark Hendrickson. I guess the joke here is that he's an MLB player now.

To be fair, Pennsylvania has two NL teams (in-state rivals, if you will) in real life. They're not really rivals though. Philadelphia's sports rivalries are with the New York and New Jersey teams. The non-sports "jealous younger brother" rivalry that some (albeit few) idiots think exists would clearly be with New York. Pittsburgh vs Philadelphia is only really a rivalry in Pittsburgh - though there, I'd say that the non-sports factor is even greater than the sports factor. True, but the point was that PA's only two teams are in the same league. And one of JH4XCC's objections was that having CIN and CLE be in the same league was a problem.

Oh yes...what a great time for jerseys: Everyone forgets how crappy those were and they still cost $40 bucks. Just with inflation that'd be $60 bucks today. I know everyone likes to knock Nike, Reebok and Adidas but the quality of replicas has dramatically improved since the 90's. (Below is replica's only) Baseball: Back then they were screened on jerseys, sometimes on cotton. Today they are sewn on polyester which is more like the authentics. I believe replica's used to be like $50 and today they are $80, right in line with inflation and add a few bucks for better quality. Basketball: At least the magic ones have stripes now. Champion replica's resembled today's JC Penny level jerseys (which are a notch below the replica) which retail for...$45 bucks! Screw You adidas! Hockey: These have decreased in quality I will not argue. I will argue that the fabric and construction is about the same or better. Football: Better fits for someone wearing them out, better quality material, closer authentic fonts in most cases (not all...see Bears replica vs. onfield) I know everyone thinks the prices have jumped astronomically but when you look at the prices vs. inflation they haven't gone up all that much and the quality has improved a ton. I think that Sonics jersey looks great. I would have unabashedly worn that back then, and I still would today. It looks like a fashion jersey.

uniform logos are a hobby/ interest, not an issue. They are a hobby/interest in the general scheme of life. On a sports logos and uniforms forum, they become issues.

I disagree. I can't speak for college, but I think when the NBA changed to 6 divisions in 2004, they almost strictly did it using geographical layout. If any teams stayed in their "historical" division, I'm pretty sure that was purely coincidence or luck. I'm glad they based it more on geography (especially since the divisions are named after geographic regions) instead of trying to maintain old divisions as much as possible based on history. It just makes more sense. Also, in the NBA at least, using a strictly geographical layout ensures that teams close to each other play each other more often, which reinforces regional rivalries.

And then their counter-argument will be "BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT LEGAL!!! ITS STILL STEALING!!". There's nothing more annoying than people who think they never break a law, and come down on other people for it. It's almost impossible to live your life without (intentionally or unintentionally) breaking some kind of law. Like I said before, if owning a baseball cap that I bought in Chinatown is the worst crime I've ever committed, then I'm proud of the way I'm living my life. Everything is relative, people.

Do you honestly think that everyone who owns a piece of counterfeit merchandise ends up in jail? If the biggest crime someone commits in his life is owning a piece of counterfeit merchandise, I would say his parents did a pretty great job of raising him.

anyone really concerned about a knock off is/must be young and worried about trivial crap like what other people think. Or if youre older,you possess no wisdom and worry about really stupid crap. I have a couple knock offs and they are fine. The numbers are a tad big but its obvious what team is being represented and they are better quality than over priced pseudo replicas sold in America. Sure its nice to have what is considered the real thing but paying 300 for a football jersey is pretty stupid....I do hope to get one eventually, but for now knock offs are fine. One day I'd like to buy my own cable. But for now stealing my neighbors is fine. pointless, unrelated, and means nothing. Get to the point ,jersey control freak. Unrelated? Both situations are people taking intellectual property with out purchasing it from the proper people. I think in this case I am a law freak not a jersey freak. A law freak who openly admits to speeding and doesn't think there's anything wrong with driving under the influence.

To be fair, Pennsylvania has two NL teams (in-state rivals, if you will) in real life. Cincinnati will never switch leagues. They were the first team and will ways be in the NL. Hmm. Maybe in that case Cincinnati and Charlotte can switch places. Or, if that's not good enough, move CIN to the NL North, STL to the NL south, and CHA to the AL South. You're not seriously proposing splitting up the Cards and the Cubs, are you? As an alternate suggestion, yes. Do you have any comments about my initial suggestion? Because if you are okay with that one, then the second one becomes moot.