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1 hour ago, kaleb_girod said:

Why does every team insist that which uniform combo they wear affects if they win or lose? This trend has gotten increasingly annoying. Teams need to quit attributing every outcome of a game to a uniform and quit the uniform superstition crap. It’s old now.

 

Look at a team like the Raiders or Packers, or in CBF like Alabama or Georgia. Teams with only one home and one away set. When they lose a game, do they quit wearing that combo? Nope, because that’s all they have. It’s literally only and issue with teams who have multiple helmet, jersey, and pants combos.

I think it's more up to the players. I know that Josh is a very superstitious player and he's gone on record to say so. He even rocked a mullet at the beginning of last season until the lack luster start made him cut his hair back into his usual look. It wouldn't surprise me is those decisions were being made by him and the captains or the "leadership council" of the Bills this season. Either way Blue on White and White on Blue rock

Week 3:

 

Week 3 Summarized: 

There was a lot of hard decisions this week, considering the matchups. A lot of good and a lot of mid.

Best of Week 3:
49ers Rams- This is number one for one reason only... COLOR. Usually I would never rank the Rams this high however this is by far their best look in their closet. That mixed with the 49ers beautiful red uniforms and the California sun, this divisional game was in my opinion the best of the bunch. Honestly once the 49ers realized they could still use three stripes and have their throwbacks in the back pocket, they quickly became the best uniform set in the league.
Jets Patriots- This is what both teams should look like end of story. Correct usage of pants, and socks. My only gripe is Metlife's lighting. I always felt their night games tend to wash out color compared to others.

Bears Colts- Just like the last one. This is what both of these teams should look like on any given Sunday. 

This week had a much more concise Top 3 than last week.

Above Average Week 3:
Chargers Steelers-  A great matchup with great looking teams. Honestly the only thing that would make this better is if the game was at Sofi and the Chargers could wear some blue. The only thing holding this matchup back is the Chargers all white however this would've been a poor game for them to wear yellow pants so this is the best that it'll be.
Dolphins Seahawks- I was surprised how much I liked this matchup. I think a majority of it comes from the Dolphins wearing teal pants. If they wore white this would've dropped to the bottom of below average or into the bottom 3. Yet Seattle has an uncharacteristically sunny day and all of the colors pop. Although I believe we are getting to the very end of this look in Seattle, they do own the best mono-chromatic look in the league.
Vikings Texans- Great looking sets from both teams. This might be an unpopular take but I believe the Vikings should've worn their primary homes this week. It has a very similar modern feel to the Texans new set and would've made for a great matchup. And then you could've saved the throwback for a divisional rival or another team who has a more classic look. Besides that it's a very good set and made for a good looking game.
Falcons Chiefs- Chiefs make the right decision to not go red pants to make this a red heavy game, and the Falcons made the right choice to not wear black pants to make this a mono black v white contest. No complaints. This is the best this matchup could've looked minus the Falcons throwbacks.
Giants Browns- I struggled with this one. This could've very well been in the top 3 and for some time I considered it. The Giants are the reason this is as low as it is. Grey pants would've helped. Blue in the uniform could've helped. I think we might be getting to the point where it is time for new Giants uniforms. This matchup should be in the Top 3.

Below Average Week 3 :

Welcome to the "one team wore the wrong pants and ruined the match-up section" again....
Bills Jaguars- I won't even bother making a new comment for this one. You get the same line as last week. All of the Jaguars had to do was wear teal pants and this match-up is within the top 5. My main complaint with the Jaguars is when they wear all white or all black there isn't enough teal on the uniforms to make them pop, and when they don't wear teal it takes the entire life of the uniform away. Such a disappointment. Hopefully the butt kicking they received changes their mind.
Cardinals Lions- I don't mind the Cardinals all-black look. I actually really enjoy their newest version of it. And I really love the Lions new look. If the Lions wear their Blue pants or anything with a stripe this would be significantly higher on the list.
Broncos Buccaneers- One team had to wear dark pants. I don't care who but someone had to do it to help the contrast of this game. Bucs could've worn pewter pants or the Broncos could've worn navy pants. That's it.
Bengals Commanders- Something about this matchup just looks... off. The first thing that came to mind was the pants and that maybe the Bengals could've worn orange or the Commanders could've gone yellow. In all reality I think these two teams just don't look right together on the field regardless of the combinations.
Raiders Panthers- Silver and Black Silver and Black. It could've been worse I guess. There was just an overload of silver and black. The Panthers just looked like an over designed version of the Raiders with some blue thrown in there.

Bottom of Week 3:
Saints Eagles- Honestly not to different from the below average tier. If the Saints wear gold pants this matchup would've easily been in the above average tier. However, they didn't. And then the Saints also had issues where some of the lineman were wearing the throwback numbers on the home uniforms.They are another team in the, it might be time to make a change category for me, and one of the few where I can actually agree if they went back to their throwbacks. Every uniform decision in the last 4-5 years has been brutal. Eagles looked the best they could.
Ravens Cowboys- Personal opinion but I'm just nor a fan of this look for the Ravens. Imagine if they went black over purple. Just a whole lot of meh. And the Cowboys are hard to put anywhere up to the top with the mismatching blues and silvers.
Titans Packers- Packers look great. Titans look like crap. It's a shame how awful they look. Would've been number one if they chose this one for their Oilers throwbacks.

Getting ahead of myself before the conclusion of MNF.

Week 2 Summarized: 

A decent bit of great, and whole lot of mid. A few teams strengthen their looks, and few diminishing them.

Best of Week 2:
Lions Bucs- What a match-up. This is what teams need to do when deciding pants. The Bucs perfectly balance the light and cool colored Lions with their red and pewter. Excellent choice in not wearing white pants. And the same can be said for the Lions. Great choice in not wearing blue or white. This is what this uniform match-up should always look like and what the plague should strive to look like.
Bills Dolphins- Ok, I'm biased as a Bills fan, but finally they trust in the white over blue and to see it opposed by the Miami throwbacks? Top tier. If it wasn't for the Lions and Bucs this would be my number 1 for sure.

Packers Colts- I think it's hard to rank this one anywhere else in the tier list. Two historical franchise wearing what they wear every week, yet it is always a great look when these two play. The only thing I feel like would make this better is if Green Bay was away and Indianapolis was home just for the combos, however I will admit the Green Bay sun makes those colors pop way better than Lucas Oil would.

Maybe I should have done a top 5 instead of 3. I think that Chiefs/Bengals, and 49ers/Vikings could have reached that top tier as well but I really wanted to establish the tiers in their respective categories.  

Above Average Week 2:
49ers Vikings- The 49ers have one of the best looks in football and something about the lighting in US Bank Stadium really makes their away set look incredible. And on the other side the Vikings really wore the best set to contrast this. The only way I would see this matchup increase is if the Vikings wore their throwbacks. The only thing that is keeping this outside of the top 3 is the Vikings uniforms. They are just not as good as the teams above them. They aren't awful in fact I really love them, they just don't compare to the teams above.
Chiefs Bengals- I struggled with this one. I think because both teams wear warm colors it doesn't make for the greatest match-up yet both teams are wearing their best in the moment. Still a great match-up.
Ravens Raiders- Very similar to the 49ers and Ravens and its not because of the purple but because I believe that the best combos where worn, the Raiders are always a classic, yet it doesn't land in the top 3 for me. Great match-up however this is as high as this can get.
Patriots Seahawks- I'll be real the only reason they are this high is because if the Patriots silver pants. When they wear silver the Patriots have one of the best looks in the league. I really wish Seattle wore their gray pants as well or wore white because of the navy overhaul.
Giants Commanders- Same as the Patriots the addition of the gold pants makes this uniform matchup significantly higher. The only reason it is not higher is because the Commanders don't have one of the best looks in the league with it. It definitely improves the look but it doesn't fix the over arching issues. The Giants always look good IMO. Wish they still had gray pants or wore their throwbacks however their current identity isn't hurting this match-up too much.

Below Average Week 2:
Welcome to the "one team wore the wrong pants and ruined the match-up section"
Jets Titans- Jets green is fantastic. The Titans ruined this game. I mean their look isn't great to begin with but if they just wore carolina pants this match-up goes up into the above average tier. 
Chargers Panthers-This one may be controversial for how low it is, but the is just an overload of blue. This would've been a great game for the Chargers to wear their yellow pants. Don't get it twisted I love the Chargers look and I'd argue that the Panthers are in the middle of the pack in terms of uniform but it was just an unfortunate match-up for both teams.
Cowboys Saints- Cowboys have one of the most overrated looks because of their mismatching blues and grays, and the Saints refuse to wear gold pants in the regular season. That's about all I can say bout this match-up.
Jags Browns- All of the Jaguars had to do was wear teal pants and this match-up is within the top 5. My main complaint with the Jaguars is when they wear all white or all black there isn't enough teal on the uniforms to make them pop, and when they don't wear teal it takes the entire life of the uniform away. Such a disappointment.
Broncos Steelers- Steelers look like the Steelers. I for one have been a mild supporter of the Broncos new look but I will say with full confidence that there wasn't a look that would have made this match-up better. The navy pants were too dark against a primarily black team, the orange would have clashed with the yellow in a bad way, and the white would have taken the life out of the uniform. I'm interested to see how they look against other teams but they did not look great against the Steelers.

Worst of Week 2:
Falcons Eagles- So this game hasn't happened yet however I can comfortably put them near the bottom. This matchup is very very similar to the Jets Titans. Eagles are G/G/W/W and the Falcons are mono white. Falcons have one of the worst looks in the league. I don't mind the Eagles but I've also never been the biggest fan of white pants with their midnight green. Like I said similar to the Jets Titans, the only difference is the caliber of jerseys the Jets have compared to the Eagles.
Rams Cardinals- I hate the bone uniform. Honestly the biggest reason I hate it is not the fruit roll up numbers or other weird quirks, its addition of white and having a white horn on the uniform. You can't see it and when you do it looks like a mistake. The only saving grace is wearing them with blue pants against a red team. And speaking of red teams... This is beating a dead horse but Arizona's away set is awesome, near the top of the league. The home set is a bottom look in the league. I'd ask for them to wear white pants but everyone knows that will not be happening this season.
Bears Texans- Its just the Bears. I can get over the Texans look. It's fine. I like the horns. The all white was a decent choice although I would have prefers navy pants. The Bears orange needs to be dumped immediately. They don't play well in them, the orange helmet is brutal, and I was never a big fan of the orange jersey to begin with. They just don't look like the Bears. They look like a high school team. 

1 minute ago, Morgan33 said:

What forum do you think you're on?  We discuss uniform aesthetics here and these adverts play a significant factor in them. 

I understand that... I do. However, these ads are on their third season. At this point it is just "Old man yells at cloud". About 80% of this thread has been about ads and not about the uniforms themselves. It's unbearable for one the negativity all of the time and two the fact that no one is talking about the uniforms themselves. I came up with one take I knew was going to be controversial and I got told that I was an idiot for not knowing what forum I'm on and that I've been here long enough that I should know that its a well disliked topic. I'm sorry for bringing up the idea that we should begin to move on.

Lmaooo whatever I got my point across. I knew it would be unpopular. I'll reiterate and leave the topic alone.

1. The jersey ads aren't going anywhere.

2. Making a huge deal out of each one gets old and trying to convince you all that the less offensive ones aren't all that bad is like talking to a wall.

Keep being grouchy and angry I guess.

9 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said:

 

The colour blue shouldn't be anywhere close to a Sens uniform.

 

Complaining about ads won't do anything, but that doesn't mean we need to try and justify the choice every time a team announces one. A smaller ad isn't a win. It's like being happy about your team losing 3-2 instead of being blown out 7-0.

Does it really make that big of a difference though? It is barley noticeable. You probably couldn't even see it on the jersey live. And on television I'd argue the moving board ads are significantly worse. 

And let's be real I'm a Sabres fan, I will be happy about a 3-2 loss compared to the 7-0 one lol. But it is much more grey than the black and white y'all make it out to be. Ads bad, ads angry... cool they aren't going anywhere. I'd rather have an ad that's small and less noticeable than one that interferes with the jersey design like Washington, or one that's large and obnoxious like Philadelphia's IBX one. But hey to each their own, I know these boards need something to complain about one way or another.

28 minutes ago, officeglenn said:

 

I'll say something I know will be controversial...

I don't mind these. They aren't huge, they are relatively neutral colored and don't disrupt the uniform from doing what it is intended to do.

Ads become an issue with me when they are so adversely out of the color scheme of the team, too large, or crowd the uniform in the case of the Capitals who do not have the real estate for the anniversary patch, ad, and captain patch.

Like it or not, jersey ads are not going anywhere so complaining after every single one will not do anything. If they are small, take the win when you can get it.

2 minutes ago, Brave-Bird 08 said:

 

Ugh, I hate this stance. That stripe looks amazing. It's complementary in the sense it's the same line width and sequence as in another part of the uniform, whether it's entirely identical or a piece of it. It's exactly the same as how the Packers used to have a wider sleeve stripe and then pulled the simpler pant stripe from that. Same with the Bears. 

 

In fact, feeling a need to have all striping be the same on helmets, jerseys, pants erases creativity and can make uniforms pretty clunky. 

 

 

Agreed, Imagine the Steelers' or Miami's throwbacks matched their helmet pants and jersey stripes. That is kind of where I place the Lions new stripe. There can be consistency with line weight without it having to be exactly the same stripe across the board.

1 minute ago, SportsFan12 said:

I thought for sure this would be an all-white game for Buffalo, but this will be another colorful prime time matchup.

 

And against the Miami throwbacks. Early contender for uniform matchup of the year. I absolutely love when the Bills wear this combo. Unfortunately both the Bills and the fans don't like them due to the idea that they are cursed. I miss the striped socks but no way those are coming back.

1 hour ago, WBeltz said:

Hopefully with a new regime in New England, they'll break out grey/silver pants more frequently at home. I doubt it but I'll dream.

Something tells me Belichick didn't cared at all about what the team wore and let the players decide. So a possibility there is a change in that with a regime change but at the same time Mayo gives off players coach vibes, and will let the players decide because he wants them to feel comfortable with what they are wearing. 

51 minutes ago, TBGKon said:

Including the walk on players and redshirts, college football rosters can sometimes exceed 100 players.  

So we did something like this at the DIII level and I know DI is a different animal but I agree with both takes on this. 

On one side filing out your roster as much as possible to give more guys opportunities and cover all loses due to injury or poor performance is huge. Let's be real a 53 man roster in the NFL is tiny especially near the end of the season when there are multiple injuries.

However on the other side a simple fix to the number issue is only bring the amount you need per game. You don't need a 100+ on the sideline.

What we used to do was assign numbers every single game. Returners and above obviously kept their numbers every game however players who are just up for a single game or the first time on the "active" gamed roster received whatever number was left. And those players as they make an impact and make the active gamey roster usually can keep their number for the season, and then change their number when/if they return.You can have a home roster with exactly 100 players if there isn't any retired numbers and the rest of the team can watch from the booth, stands, home, or wherever.

I don't believe the number rules are as strict in college as NFL. In college you see captain numbers and special numbers rotate through the team every game compared to the NFL where you have to buy you thousands to millions of dollars in merchandise to just change your number in the offseason.

So yes you shouldn't need double numbers, but because these teams bring so many onto the sideline every game and especially home games you see it more.

Playoff Blaze is insane.. but I also love that the team is built by mostly Bandits players and play just like em... only ball out in the post season

Honestly the only reason Sabres fans and players are starting to feel a certain way towards the Goatheads is because the Sabres consistently win more with them on. Let's be real though... a jersey is not fixing that organization...

Hoping one day my season tickets will be worth it lol

On 9/1/2024 at 9:46 AM, GrayJ12 said:

Any game with the Seahawks "off-grey color unis" should automatically qualify for this thread (especially pre-Color Rush):

I always forget how brutal those collars where, yikes!

I'm almost positive this is just a rule bend due to the no green situation in Brazil, yet that contradicts with Green Bay wearing... green.  I wouldn't look to far into it. Plus when has the NFL known to be strict on uniform "rules". 

12 hours ago, Jer15 said:

Word out there is it will be cobras and that will be the logo. 

 

I don't know this for a fact but I assume it's due to the short turn around time

They kind of hinted that all of the unboxed identities were future identities if I remember correctly. So any future relocation or expansion we should expect that these identities to be used.

On another note...

Seems to be yet another team that the Pegula's have sold. They first lost the Buffalo Beauts which in all fairness was the fall of the NWHL/PHF and the rise of the PWHL. They have also sold significant portions of the Bills and Sabres. I'd imagine most of this due to Kim Pegula's health.

Hoping whoever the new owner is does what is right and brings back the old colors and identity.

Honestly I care more about them trying to make a game that's playable than the uniforms. The uniforms are second to me. They don't need every uniform. They need a dynasty mode that can actually compete against its former self and competitors like 2k.

1 hour ago, cajunaggie08 said:

I hate that gap too, but I believe it is there because rather than swap endzone sections out they are able to wash the paint off to do different designs. By leaving a gap to the end zone line and out of bounds they wont wash away the white.

I believe it also helps with touchdown reviews. When the uniform of cleats of the team match the color of the end zone it can get washed in footage, so having that gap makes it easier to tell if they are in bounds and if that ball crossed the plane or not. Idk I'm playing devils advocate. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. Out of all of the nitpicky things that's low on my list.

I feel like I've used this line I never understood "looks too much like a division rival is bad" to be  a bad thing. Yeah you want each team to have their own unique identity, however I think the only combo they look like the Browns in is Orange/White/Orange. They only play the Browns twice a season. At the end of the day if adding orange pants helps color balance and overall design than I'm all for it.

This is going to be a great mix with the black uniform. I feel like they will look too much like the browns if they were it with the white. Unfortunately I think we all know that they are going to use this with the orange uniform. Which means they now have an all black look, and all white look, and an all orange look...

2 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

I’d say there are different levels of caring, usually depending on how good the team was before they moved to their current location.
 

If they were godawful/mostly mediocre, the new team/fans tend not to care. Look at how Bob McAdoo, the Buffalo Braves’ biggest star, is absent from Clippers-related material.* Not a whole lot of Orioles fans parade around old Browns stars and the Devils only started bringing up the Scouts and Rockies once Lou went away.

 

 

*Bob McAdoo deserves more credit than he gets.

The greatest (Buffalo) basketball player to do it. Or you could give that to Christian Laettner considering he's from the area but no one wants to claim him.

25 minutes ago, LMU said:

Why on earth would we in California care about some guy who played on the opposite side of the country?

 

I mean that's a bit of a different case no? Dodgers kept their name when they moved and Jackie is famous for breaking the color barrier and being a baller. However you think of Jackie and you think Dodger, not Los Angeles.  The same argument keeps on being cycled around where some people want to acknowledge the history before and others don't and as much as the fan wants to be apart of that conversation its more controlled by the leagues. I'm on @BBTV side that you cheer for the laundry and the city. In this case its the laundry and the player who actively changed the league and country. 

5 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

The Dodgers' Roy Campanella Night in Los Angeles was attended by 90,000 fans.

 

In the 1972 World Series, the A's had Lefty Grove throw out the first ball. 

 

The Nationals honoured Gary Carter and Andre Dawson, and have worn Expos throwbacks at home.

 

The A's have worn both Philadelphia and Kansas City throwbacks at home.

 

The Lakers have worn Minneapolis throwbacks at home; the Clippers have worn Buffalo Braves uniforms at home; the Carolina Hurricanes have worn Hartford Whalers uniforms at home.

 

So, no.

 

Franchise continuity is of the utmost importance. History is precious.

 

I can speak to this a little from the Buffalo Braves standpoint. People in Buffalo bought the hell out of the last Braves throwback however no one in the area actually cares or likes the Clippers. It's more of a mod-poged fandom of Raptors, Cavs, and or any other bandwagon team. I'm sure if the Braves ever came back, which I doubt, no one would care about the team they would inherit if that were the case. And honestly most of the things on this list is more due to ownership keeping the history alive. I guarantee no one in LA gives a flying f about Buffalo, or Hurricane fans care at all about Hartford besides the occasional once a year jersey night.