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I've always heard that Buffalo was talked about for expansion back in the 80's and our AAA ballpark is supposed to be expandable, but just no. We might be able to fill a stadium maybe, but I don't think the corporate money is there in any fashion. I'd wager that we're one of the worst markets for big corporate headquarters. We're almost always the #3 US market for Stanley Cup Finals behind the two teams that are actually in it, and I think we do well in NFL Playoff ratings after the Bills pack it in. I don't think we even register on the baseball ratings and I rarely hear anyone talk baseball around here; if so, only the big, big stories.

They really kinda should be the Glendale Coyotes. The difference between this and the Cubs situation is that this is the Coyotes and that's the Cubs. What storied history is being thrown out the window? The city has basically put up enough money subsidizing losses over the years to buy the team outright (no, I'm not saying they could or should (and yes, I know that it was stupid of them)). That should get them something other than being suckered into another lousy deal.

I wonder who "Kylie" Irving is. haha! i didn't even notice that. now it screams FAKE even more for the idiots who may of thought it was real ... not to mention that Kylie Irving's "game" jersey comes in two wildly different sizes... showed up to training camp out of shape one season?

I'd like to think it's a Grandma Fiddler jersey, not a Vernon Fiddler jersey. http://stars.nhl.com/club/podcastplayer.htm?pid=117&iid=34787

Not possible. The hypothetical arena is being built by the guys trying to bring the NBA to Seattle. Hockey is always going to be a secondary consideration even with a team at Key Arena. That said a secondary consideration Coyotes in Seattle are better than the no consideration Coyotes in Glendale. No, not really. I'd rather the NHL not be a catspaw for some effort to secure a basketball team. You say that like the NHL hadn't sacrificed its dignity long ago. At what point in the space time continuum has the NHL ever had some dignity to begin with? They cancelled the Stanley Cup final in 1919 because of the Spanish flu pandemic... that was classy of them.

I wonder how many players have moved twice with a team under a single contract?

Not this London... THIS London... What about this one? How about this London: Or this one: ...with Robert Englund as co-owner

So let's talk about the fun part... logos and jerseys. Would we have a year of the Seattle Coyotes? Would there even be enough time at this point to develop an identity, get merchandise out, etc.? We're already a couple of weeks past when Les Thrash was sold to True North, and there's not even anything definite out there yet.

I think Miami could support a second team.

So.... the purchase price is supposed to be $170M? $120M loan from Fortress Investment Group $85M loan from the NHL $45M from the ownership group =$250M???

Yeah, I may have laid the foundation for that tangent...my bad. It was bound to happen after so many years of league ownership and umpteen charlatan ownership groups. Don't feel bad.

2162-63 Season Sounds about right. The "Star Wars" future could happen, Tattoine could have been blown up, Naboo and Hoth could be under siege by imperial fighters, Cloud City could be the only livable city left in the galaxy, the Death Star could be the most powerful battle station in all mankind... ...and yet, throughout all this, there will still be a Phoenix Coyotes franchise. Star Wars is a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

But...... but...... well..... I..... it's just........ OITGDNHL. This is insane.

If there's any real proof, wouldn't Glendale have a serious lawsuit to bring against the NHL? Dereliction of duty?

Holy bleep! You know it's bad when your company has to release a commercial like that!

Or, IMHO, a company that was successful, but screwed up so royally at the end that it taints their entire history would belong here even if they didn't change logos. I'm thinking of something like Enron here.

Maybe when Blockbuster comes out with a lower case Arial logo in a month to show how cool they are and then declares bankruptcy next year...

What's the alternative?

And I'll take Rose Marie to block, Peter. Seriously, what intelligent Canadian businessman wouldn't buy a hockey team to keep it in Arizona when it was on the verge of moving to Canada? I love a good conspiracy theory, so bear with me. If Gosbee buys the team right now to keep it in Glendale, he's the only one in line. He buys the team for maybe $100M or so? Say he absorbs $150M in losses over the next 5-6 years; that brings you to $250M invested, and then he can do the whole song and dance about how he tried to make it work and blah blah blah and move the team then (maybe by then Gary Bettman will have accidentally exposed himself to the Sun and vaporized). Now imagine if the NHL put the Coyotes up for auction and said, "Quebec, Saskatoon, Seattle, Vegas... wherever you want to move 'em, go crazy." I think you'd get at least $250M-$300M for the team in that situation and there'd obviously be multiple bidders... you're not guaranteed to come out of it with a team. Gosbee is only in his mid-40's, so he has plenty of time to see this plan through.

If I'm doing my NHL math correctly, the city without an owner waiting needs someone to buy a team on the cheap (Coyotes); the city with an owner, an arena coming and fans waiting will pony up a big expansion fee.

This chain opened its first store in my area in November a couple of years ago... and filed for bankruptcy three months later. They were completely shut down and liquidated by that April.

If the league did some kind of no-conference, 1-16 type playoffs, what do you guys think about teams choosing their opponents in the first round? #1 seed picks their opponent first and so on. If you are on the East Coast and you don't want to travel to the West Coast, choose a different team if it's really important to you. I think it would add an interesting new level of drama. Would teams really pick around the hot team that "nobody wants to play"? Plus, we'd get to blame our GM/coach for picking the wrong team.

My joke about the Cubs was better since the Leafs have actually won a title in the last 100 years. Not with that logo.

You must've not seen the PSU/Iowa game when I was a freshman at Penn State in 2004.Iowa 6, Penn State 4. No joke. Yeah, but you walked across campus to attend that game. I drove all night from Atlanta to Memphis to watch that joke of a game. Can I join the club? I flew from Toronto to San Juan to watch Toronto FC draw 0-0 with the Puerto Rico Islanders meaning we were knocked out of the Champions League. That was lame. My son's first NHL game a couple of years ago was a 1-0 OT loss. No goal celebrations, nothing really to cheer about. Eventually, the puck that he probably couldn't see went into our net on the far side of the arena and everyone just got up and left.

Sabres fans in Hong Kong!