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27 minutes ago, the admiral said:

I can't think of a secondary that would make a good primary. However, there's the Jets primary, which would make a great secondary.

 

EDIT: I take that back, the Weagle, of course

Agreed on the Jets. 

Disagree on the Caps. I know I'm in the minority though. 

20 hours ago, GFB said:

If the Sharks just updated the original crest in the same style that they updated the original shoulder logo for the current uniforms, they'd be cooking with gas:

 

100%. There is a great Shark logo in there somewhere - I wish theyd find it. If they could have a classic looking primary logo that went with the style of this shoulder patch I'd probably be deeply in love with the Sharks' look.

While on the topic, can I just express how perplexed I am when people think that these shoulder patch logos are perfectly suited to be used as primary crests. Am I crazy or does anyone else feel like about 85% of the time, this is never a good idea. The design intention of a secondary logo is never for it to be used as the primary logo for an organisation.

Vegas do it - it doesn't work. Carolina do it - it's an awful jersey logo. Blue Jackets have it - I don't like it. Dallas use their secondary on a fluro jersey - awful. Minnesota, nope its just a wordmark. Washington shouldn't do it even though everyone wants them to. Florida's sunrise logo was just a gimmicky looking thing.

There are about half a dozen more teams that could use their shoulder patches as primaries but they'd all look bad in my opinion. The only one in recent memory that I think has worked pretty well is Bostons 'Bruins' logo with the bear. 

I'll sit back and wait for the comments on my opinion. Pretty sure almost everyone will disagree to some extent.

I agree with most of what is being said here. Sharks look great now (was calling from them to drop the orange on the jerseys for years) but the logo still bothers me a little. Too anime/exagerrated cartoon feeling. Does not feel like a classic hockey logo - which is a shame because their jersey does.

9 hours ago, VampyrRabbit said:

What was the point of removing stripes? Either leave well enough alone or make the thickness of the stripes match those on the jersey and stockings.

No idea why they thought removing it was necessary. I'm not sure whether it significantly impacts the look of their overall uniform that much or not, but I can't see how it could be seen as that much of an improvement.  Not sure I would have advocated for a similar striping pattern to match that of the jerseys though, that feels like it wouldn't look right.

21 hours ago, TBGKon said:

I think I know my issue with the current black Carolina Hurricanes jersey.  The logo is now accurate with two flags, but its too vertical.  It needs some horizontal balance, like the triangle that was there before.

That was the obvious problem that logo had from the second I saw it. It's always looked dumb to me. Not to mention it's a weird logo in that its a ratty flag pole. It's just not nice to look at.

On 10/17/2023 at 7:11 AM, the admiral said:

 

If you understand them as a team by and for The Internet, everything they do makes perfect sense.

 Which is why I don't like them.

12 hours ago, Kevin W. said:

No they aren't. In almost 25 years, they've had three primary dark jersey designs and two primary light jersey designs, plus one alternate dark jersey design that didn't later become a primary. You forget that they had the same white jersey (on two separate templates) for almost the entirety of their first 15 years in the league.

Maybe I'm being a bit knee-jerk. Fair.

The older I get the more I start to resent teams who use multiple different uniforms. I really wish teams would stick with an identity that works and just nail it, instead of diluting their brand will throwbacks and cash-grab third jerseys. Rich coming from a Canucks fan but I'm certainly not excluding us either.

Worst offenders to me are:
Canes

Ducks

Canucks (although I appreciate the desire to stick with the blue and green for the most part)

Minnesota are slipping into this category

Arizona have done the right thing. Gone back to their originals and are just using it.

1 hour ago, Sport said:

It's a great color scheme that they should readopt full-time. My only issue with this alternate is it's close enough to the originals that it begs the question why not just wear the originals?  

Because they can sell something different?

3 hours ago, Morgan33 said:

I feel confident in saying that this is the best looking jersey in the team's history.  The new metallic material is such a monumental improvement over the sparkle trim they used on the originals and it just elevates the design to a new level.

As for the Reds they're going with?  They've always just seemed like just a lesser version of what they lifted the cup in.  Why sublimate the most distinctive part of the design and why downgrade the only colour (silver) that separated your scheme from all the other red-and-black teams to such a degree.  Close, but no cigar.

 I like these so much. Which is why I've never been one of those people who has an issue with the much-maligned Hurricanes 'Toilet Bowl' logo. The whole jersey just works.

12 hours ago, nash61 said:

Re: Warmup jerseys

 

I think they had gotten so watered down by the end, that had the big Pride controversy not happened, I don't think people would have really cared.

 

Like, who is going to miss these?

 

 

 

 

I am not going to miss warm-up jerseys.

7 minutes ago, adsarebad said:

20 years ago.... the NHL went to dark jerseys for the home team, white for the visitor.  

 

A date which will live in infamy ..

No need to be hyperbolic. Some teams have better white jerseys than dark jerseys and vice versa.  I could live with a switch up sure, but it doesn't bother me all that much.

On 6/16/2023 at 5:07 AM, Cujo said:

 

Not even close!

 

I don't find these ugly. Not my favs, but they're far from ugly. I think the script is decent. Yes I'd rather they had a 'logo', but the Rangers don't, so it's not unprecedented. I think they've been using this for long enough that it has a fair amount of equity, along with the original wordmark version. It'll probably go pretty soon, but it was a period in time that I think it was a legitimate design.

On 5/25/2023 at 9:30 AM, nash61 said:

Dear Canucks:

 

Abbotsford has proven that Skating Johnny works as a primary. It's finally time once and for all.

 

 

 

Standard whites on the road with Skating Johnny, a V arm stripe on the arms, blue shoulder logos.

 

Blue jerseys at home, with Skating Johnny,  a V arm stripe and white shoulder logos.

 

Green jerseys as an alternate with Vachon-Johnny (the V is blue) on a green jersey with normal arm stripes and  white shoulder logos.

 

NEVER. CHANGE.  AGAIN.

To me, these prove the oppostie. That the Johnny Canuck lacks presence on the front of a jersey. Feels small and too detailed.

3 hours ago, Ark said:

I hate how the helmet plume is turned into a circle/roundel element. It doesn’t look right.

It's designed mathemateically and geometrically perfectly, and subsequently feels soulless. I don't care if the balance of the elements are better and the lines are thicker and the face looks more like a traditional sports team logo face or whatever, I lke peculiarities in logos and I just feel like the original is better.

On 4/27/2023 at 4:23 AM, the admiral said:

That's exactly what they should be wearing, at least up front. 

Couldn't disagree more. 

The logo looks like someone 'fixed' the original logo, but in the process destroyed all its charm. 

19 hours ago, KittSmith_95 said:

The Bolts don’t even have to add black, just change the shade of blue slightly to a shade closer to what they originally wore, and they’d stand out. 

They don't have to but they should. 

Glad they didn't continue on with that look. Desperately needed to move away from the red and black that they had been using since the early 2000's.  At least the piping and shoulder patches would have been fixed, but still very similar.

On 4/11/2023 at 4:32 AM, CaliforniaGlowin said:

retro matchup tonight!

 

Beauty. Make it permanent. Seriously.

Looks very minor league to me.

I think there's a good identity to be created regardless of the name or colour scheme. It just needs to be found, executed well and stuck to in order to create equity and recognisability.  Carolina have messed this up and I really don't like what they've done to their brand. It screams of having a lack of vision or direction (or too many different ones) - it feels confused and unsure about itself. A bit like the Canucks, much to my chagrin.

If Carolina had stuck with their 97-07 Stanley Cup winning uniforms and hadn't worn anything different - those things would be modern classics. I really think that. They're unique and really cool. Shame they've messed around with it so much.

14 minutes ago, the admiral said:

Okay, fine, paint-bucket that out, too. Jesus Christ. It's solid work and way way above ECHL standards.

Did you design this? I'm not having a go at you, it's just my opinion. Yes, that's why I said it's decent.  I identified it as good work, with a caveat.

6 hours ago, the admiral said:

Good thing it doesn't rely on it, then. You can take the shadows out and not miss a beat:

 

 I still consider the remaining grey as a 'shadow'. as well. It's the same as the Dallas beveled  star or Columbus'.  

On 3/4/2023 at 2:00 AM, DTConcepts said:

 

Idk, I think the Cincinnati Cyclones’ latest logo is really clean.

It even looks like a Hurricanes concept somebody on these boards would’ve made.

Decent, but any logo that relies on a faux beveling/shadow effect is a compromised design in my opinion. It might look good at a controlled size and application, but the second you need to use it black and white, or reduce it super small for example, it suffers big time and loses clarity.  (not to say I'm perfect, look at my avatar. I use it. But for a professional sports team that would replicate the logo for countless applications I would never)
 

I honestly have never had a big problem with the Hurricanes' logo - the whole toilet bowl thing is dumb. I think it's a perfectly okay design and I could list about 7 other logos that I'm less a fan of.

On 2/16/2023 at 10:55 AM, monkeypower said:

We don't have a next season thread up yet I don't think.

 

 

I like it and it's the first anniversary logo they've used that includes both Mighty and non-Mighty eras.

I love the shape of this lockup - the only thing that always bothers me is the two distinct tyles of the original design and the stylised D. They just don't work together at all and it's annyoing every time I see them try to make them look like they belong together.