pirates logo

[iccomics]

i did this concept for some guy but he used someone else's concept, what do you think about this? c&c welcome.

[BuddyLane]

I think the skull needs worked on. I think the basic outline like that of the Peoria Pirates is a good starting point. The Jaw definitley needs more definition. I like the bandana and the cross bones.

[rmered]

He looks like Stuart the Friendly Pirate.

The eyes are rounded, which if you make your eyes look rounded, go look in a mirror, see what I mean; it's just not a scary look.

Which pirates generally are.

It's all the more important as it's the central part of the drawing.

Like any drawing, you look at the middle.

See the skull on the one below, the eye sockets, which probably don't look like that in reality, are narrowed, like when you furrow your brow. Say, when you're annoyed with someone.

This is what yours looks like if you delete your eyes, and cut and paste the eyes from mine in place of them.

The shape of the skull is in two part, round bit at the top and jawline.

You don't have a jaw.

Your teeth are, once again, making him smiling like he's your friend.

Teeth on angry pirate below are missing in some places, and crooked in others.

Apparently pirates were well known for poor dental hygiene.

Don't take these suggestions the wrong way, your pirate was a pretty good start, but I just noticed those few things.

[BuddyLane]

I'd like to see a combo between the 2.

[leggman01]

your skull also appears to have an ear

[iccomics]

i think a combo would look cool, basiclly my skull and crossbones and bandana with his details in the eyes and teeth and head would look pretty cool

[VitaminD]

ICC: great idea, but there are some things that need some retooling.

1. The skull shares an outline with the bones behind it. With such a thick outline to the overall logo, there needs to be some separation between the skull and the bones.

2. The logo is predominantly bold, thick lines. But the lines for the teeth and the mouth are much finer. Very disjointed.

3. The smile is too wide, and the mandible (lower jaw) is far too thin. The mandible can be disarticulated from the rest of the skull and should be represented as a separate piece. The rest of the skull is actually made up of numerous small bones, and these bones are fused together, whereas yours is a less detailed, one-piece skull.

4. Ears are cartilage, and would not exist on a skull that's just bones. The 3 ear bones are located within the ear canal, which is a hole in the skull. Thus, no earring.

Your font is killer - that would look great with any pirate/buccaneer concept. This could be a nice concept, but there are a lot of basic changes that should be made to clean this up.

[StPatty33]

It's a good idea--but if you can't see why he chose rmereds instead of yours then you should see your eye doctor right away.

you can't make up parts of anatomy--like an ear bone.

the mouth looks goofy--similar to something I would do if I were trying to make a joke that involved creating a bad logo.

The skull outline and the bandana are good, but...

You should get yourself another program to use if you expect people to use your future designs. There's some free one floating around here on the boards--I can't remember the name of it though. I use Illustrator and Photoshop.

BTW Awesome job, rmered--I really like the double outline on it all. Makes it smoothe as vermooth(e).

[655321]

Why does a skull have lips?

[Jigga]

You have a pirate in your sig...why didn't you just use that as a reference? Not copy it, just use it as a guide for your design.

I give you credit for trying, especially since you're 14 or something, but it's too cartoony. Which may be a complement because of your comics background . VD, as he often does, clearly articulated some great points that will go a long way in helping you strengthen your design.

Anyway, here's a link for, Inkscape, a freeware vector graphics program with capabilities similar to Illustrator and CorelDraw. (Damn, I sound like a commercial )

There are lots of other programs out there, too. I use Flash, but I wouldn't advise anyone to do so...I'm just so used to it.

[StPatty33]

Sorry if my post sounded a little harsh--it just sounded like you were sore that the fellow didn't use yours. Again, the bandana's a great idea, and the crossbones were executed very well. The execution is probably better than I could do on a program such as Paint.

[iccomics]

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see ya!

[rmered]

ICC: great idea, but there are some things that need some retooling.

1. The skull shares an outline with the bones behind it. With such a thick outline to the overall logo, there needs to be some separation between the skull and the bones.

2. The logo is predominantly bold, thick lines. But the lines for the teeth and the mouth are much finer. Very disjointed.

3. The smile is too wide, and the mandible (lower jaw) is far too thin. The mandible can be disarticulated from the rest of the skull and should be represented as a separate piece. The rest of the skull is actually made up of numerous small bones, and these bones are fused together, whereas yours is a less detailed, one-piece skull.

4. Ears are cartilage, and would not exist on a skull that's just bones. The 3 ear bones are located within the ear canal, which is a hole in the skull. Thus, no earring.

Your font is killer - that would look great with any pirate/buccaneer concept. This could be a nice concept, but there are a lot of basic changes that should be made to clean this up.

Excellent points Vit D.

Though I don't know if you'd bother doing all the different bones that make up a skull when most people think it's one large skull bone and a lower jaw bone.

I'd also add that the bones and the skull need to be identifiable as two seperate things. Icco's has no defined line between where the bones stop and the skull starts.